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MidniteWelder

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Careful JLHillsSr, Their wisdom is being confounded
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Okay, maybe I post on this thread one more time. All things on this earth are by 3 things. Wisdom (Father) Knowledge(The Son) and prudence ( The Holy Spirit). All these together is love. God is love. Love is wise, love is knowledgeable and love is prudent. Yeah yeah my people perish for the lack of knowledge so He sent knowledge, His Son. Then to get the job done He sent the helper, The Holy Spirit. 3 acting as one unit, the Godhead.
 

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Gen 3:5 KJV - For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:22 KJV - And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
yes and the devilthereis nogoodin the devil a liar from the begining and the tree of evil is evil,nomatter which way it is sliced and peoopleunder the influence of th tree of evil as seeing it as good and evil try to do good deceiving themselves and theirwrok of self will all be burned up not being of faith in Chrsit and the finished work of Christ and they themselves will go through the fire, and if belief is genuine then they will survive. Let please see that tree of evil as what it is there is no good in it for it caused death what good is in death, certainly no life in death. So we are to die to self see that Christ took on our sin(s) all of them him being killed in our place so that we can come back to life as it was in the garden prior to the eating of that tree of evil, loving and praising God, completely encompassed with this new exciting life being content in all things, eating off of the tree of life (GOOD) no evil in this tree what so ever
 
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yes and the devilthereis nogoodin the devil a liar from the begining and the tree of evil is evil,nomatter which way it is sliced and peoopleunder the influence of th tree of evil as seeing it as good and evil try to do good deceiving themselves and theirwrok of self will all be burned up not being of faith in Chrsit and the finished work of Christ and they themselves will go through the fire, and if belief is genuine then they will survive. Let please see that tree of evil as what it is there is no good in it for it caused death what good is in death, certainly no life in death. So we are to die to self see that Christ took on our sin(s) all of them him being killed in our place so that we can come back to life as it was in the garden prior to the eating of that tree of evil, loving and praising God, completely encompassed with this new exciting life being content in all things, eating off of the tree of life (GOOD) no evil in this tree what so ever
You, my friend, are under the assumption, like so many others, that it is Satin within the serpent.
 

homwardbound

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The dove-like figure was Jehovah revealing himself. He left His Body, momentarily, then returned. The voice from Heaven was The Father. The Holy Spirit did not come until Christ's ascension.
Yes the Holy Ghost could not come unless Christ ascended yes and live in the ones that believe and begin the trust and search out scripture and sift that scripture through their heart, toknow the truth the truth that sets them free in the spirit of God which is truth.
Fear in the old became a crippler to mankind and fear to this day is a crippler, but trust in Christ the finished work where he freed the Israelites from having to try and obey the Law of Moses by doing it himself for them and any of us that have taken on the Law freed us by his death and that frees one from fear. then once tha tis done we can by trust in this being done approach the throne of grace in confidence saying thank you and learn more about the armour of God which is trusting in Father to carry on through us, we beiong no more than a vessel for God to be used by God his type of Love (1Cor 13) pouring in and through us overflowing onto all
 

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Jhn 14:9 KJV - Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

Jehovah is in the Body that His Father created for Him. He looks exactly like the Father.

Jhn 17:11 KJV - And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].

Do you really believe that we are going to be a single entity?
1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 always equals one in Father and it keeps going on 1x1x1x1x1x1x1 as each one believes Father through Christ accepts them and makes us one with the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost, because of what Christ did Christ took the sin issue out of the way so he can present the ones that do believe as Holy before his Father and we are thus Holy By Christ therefore we
1 John 3:3All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
 

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If God is Spirit as He is, and Jesus is God in the flesh as He was, who believes that the Holy Spirit is God and therefore Jesus within us?
 

homwardbound

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The Human Jesus showed us how to worship God the Father.

God the Son worships no one.
And what he showed us was trust the Father and trust waht he has done and trust the comforter that tellyou all truth trust is the armor nfear is the crippler, do you really know what Christ really did at the cross?
 

homwardbound

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Salvation could only come from the sinless flesh supplied by the Father.
And that sinless flesh is Christ Jesus the way the truth and the life the Holy Ghost is the assurance of our Salvation and guide into all truth and is the same Holy Ghost that resided in Christ that led Christ telling Christ what Father says to do or say and that is what Christ did and that is what Father wants us to do by being 100% dependant on Father through the Holy Ghosts lead we have the ministry of reconciliation, we are 100% forgiven so that we can serve God anew being led by God through the comforter
 

homwardbound

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If you mean "man ", then you are correct.
Except jesus was born of a virgin and therefore the only perfect flesh that ever pleased Gof the Father andthrough him one is saved and has access to a new life in this Christ a life-giving Spirit unto all who believe. Under Law no one could make it ever before saved or after our mine, dependancy is 100% on the finished work of Christ where IU got a new life in God the Father and confirmed by the comforter Christ sent me and this true for all that beleive
 
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JLHillsSr

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Yes the Holy Ghost could not come unless Christ ascended yes and live in the ones that believe and begin the trust and search out scripture and sift that scripture through their heart, toknow the truth the truth that sets them free in the spirit of God which is truth.
Fear in the old became a crippler to mankind and fear to this day is a crippler, but trust in Christ the finished work where he freed the Israelites from having to try and obey the Law of Moses by doing it himself for them and any of us that have taken on the Law freed us by his death and that frees one from fear. then once tha tis done we can by trust in this being done approach the throne of grace in confidence saying thank you and learn more about the armour of God which is trusting in Father to carry on through us, we beiong no more than a vessel for God to be used by God his type of Love (1Cor 13) pouring in and through us overflowing onto all
The law that we are free from is this one:
Gen 2:24 KJV - and they shall be one flesh.
And again:
Gen 3:16 KJV - and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
 

homwardbound

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You, my friend, are under the assumption, like so many others, that it is Satin within the serpent.
What does this matter whether he was or wasn't the serpent was cursed for doing this, that is not the issue the issue is the tree of evil is evil I do not care which way you ar anyone slices, dices or cubes it, the tree of evil is as is. the tree of life that was still in the garden was and is the tree of Good (Jesus Christ) thereofre take this bread and eat it is my Body and drink my Blood it is the new covenant where now the angel no longer blocks the gate into the Garden of Eden and we can freely eat those that Believe that God has given his Mercy to. Best food I have ever tasted and it is meat that many do not know of, but will as God reveals it to those that believe
 
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JLHillsSr

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1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 always equals one in Father and it keeps going on 1x1x1x1x1x1x1 as each one believes Father through Christ accepts them and makes us one with the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost, because of what Christ did Christ took the sin issue out of the way so he can present the ones that do believe as Holy before his Father and we are thus Holy By Christ therefore we
1 John 3:3All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
1Jo 5:7 KJV - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
 

homwardbound

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If God is Spirit as He is, and Jesus is God in the flesh as He was, who believes that the Holy Spirit is God and therefore Jesus within us?
The three are on as a cherry pie is one with three distinct cuts in it butthe filling just flows right back together as one underneath the physical sight, fro today we see in the Spirit not flesh for God
John 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
John 14:17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
Ephesians 1:13And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
That last scripture is truth forall of youhere that have come to beleive andGod himself whom has accepted each and everyone of you here will straighten each and everyone of us out to truth. For God because of each ones belief has:
Ephesians 1:6To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
The above is done for you at belief
 
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JLHillsSr

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If God is Spirit as He is, and Jesus is God in the flesh as He was, who believes that the Holy Spirit is God and therefore Jesus within us?
The Holy Spirit makes us to be like Jesus in a Christ-like body.

Rom 3:24 KJV - Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 8:1 KJV - [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 KJV - For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Gal 3:26 KJV - For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:28 KJV - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15 KJV - For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
Eph 2:10 KJV - For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Eph 3:11 KJV - According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:
 
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JLHillsSr

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And what he showed us was trust the Father and trust waht he has done and trust the comforter that tellyou all truth trust is the armor nfear is the crippler, do you really know what Christ really did at the cross?
Jhn 8:28 KJV - Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am [he], and [that] I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
 

homwardbound

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The law that we are free from is this one:
Gen 2:24 KJV - and they shall be one flesh.
And again:
Gen 3:16 KJV - and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
and my husband is Christ I died to the Law so I could marry another and that is Christ and by my frre will I accept Christ as the Head of me. I do as he does because he did what he did setting me free by and through his death so I could have this new life I have and am forever greatful, proof of that is his resurrection and dieth no more ever so neither shall I and anyone else that will come to belief in Christ and the finished work
 
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JLHillsSr

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And that sinless flesh is Christ Jesus the way the truth and the life the Holy Ghost is the assurance of our Salvation and guide into all truth and is the same Holy Ghost that resided in Christ that led Christ telling Christ what Father says to do or say and that is what Christ did and that is what Father wants us to do by being 100% dependant on Father through the Holy Ghosts lead we have the ministry of reconciliation, we are 100% forgiven so that we can serve God anew being led by God through the comforter
The Holy Spirit did not reside in that Body until it's resurrection.
 

homwardbound

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Jhn 8:28 KJV - Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am [he], and [that] I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
Yes, yes and yes again, and today we the believers are representatives ambassadors representing the Love, the Joy and the righteousness and the peace that comes from the finished work of Christ on the cross that began this new covenant att he death then the resurrection then the ascenscion, then our reception the day we first believed WOW! and I did nothing except beleive God