The Truth about Adam

[serpentslayer]

Adam is the devil, so all of humanity are his children, except Jesus, because GOD is HIS Father. You see, the only way Eve could believe and state that they were forbidden from eating the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (Gen 3:2-3), which GOD never told Adam (Gen 2:16-17), is if Adam told her this falsehood (lie), because, according to scripture, Adam was the only one to whom GOD spoke the Commandment (Gen 2). This is the first lie ever told, and it was subtle because Eve had no clue or reason to suspect it was not true. In telling Eve this lie, Adam earned the reputations of being subtle (as described above), and as a serpent, which is one who speaks falsehoods (incantations).

Now, before you all get your tails in a tizzy, you might first consider why GOD would not tell us the whole Truth about creation, if angels truly were created apart from man. In fact, their are only a few scriptures in all the Old Testament which speak of the Devil, the author of confusion; therefore, if angels are a distinct creation, then it would seem GOD was keeping them and our main adversary the devil a great mystery. And this is what we have, a lot of mysteries, if Adam is not the devil. However, if Adam is the devil, then there really are NO mysteries about the angels or the devil, and man has fabricated the whole tale. So, do you wish to believe the WORD of GOD or the doctrine of men, because one is truth and the other lies mixed with the truth, such as that told to Eve (don't eat and don't touch)?

Before any of you go and reach for JOB 38:7 to prove me wrong, please realize that since the stars were not formed until the fourth day of creation (Gen 1:14-19), being One day after the planet earth was formed, there is no way this scripture is talking about a point in time when angels existed before man or even the earth. Rather, this scripture (along with verse 6) is taking about the moment GOD spoke to the serpent and Eve about the Savior to Come (who is that CORNERSTONE, Is 28:16), and the reaction of all who heard HIM (see HEB 2:3).


Wake up from your slumber and pull the wool from over your eyes, for this is the fulfillment of the prophesy of THES 2:3-8.

 

[megaman125]

Oh not this again.

Adam is the devil,

Please provide scripture that expressly states this. Until you do, this is just you inserting your own opinon into the scripture to promote this nonsensical false doctrine.

Now, before you all get your tails in a tizzy, you might first consider why GOD would not tell us the whole Truth about creation,

So you're claiming that God didn't give us the whole truth, but you somehow have the whole truth? It only takes the slightest ounce of discernement for me to say this, so I'm going to go ahead and say I don't believe you.

 

[serpentslayer]

Oh not this again.



Please provide scripture that expressly states this. Until you do, this is just you inserting your own opinon into the scripture to promote this nonsensical false doctrine.



So you're claiming that God didn't give us the whole truth, but you somehow have the whole truth? It only takes the slightest ounce of discernement for me to say this, so I'm going to go ahead and say I don't believe you.

Scripture does not state this revelation: it must be rightly-divided.

i'm saying GOD did speak ALL the TRUTH, but men insist GOD created beings distinct from man even though HE never said HE did so. Get it?

O.K. megaman; tell me how is it that Eve believed and spoke the untruth - Don't touch (Gen 3:2-3), yet she did not speak the first lie, the devil did (Jn8:44)?
Or tell me how it is that Eve was deceived, since one who knows the TRUTH can never be deceived about it (assuming Adam told her the TRUTH, the Commandment)? You do know the principle of which i speak, yes?or do you not believe this principle? If not, throw your bible away because it cannot save you from the would-be deceivers of this world.

i speak a revelation, but not one from me. You would do well to test it out before you so quickly dismiss it just because it is not what you were taught. Does not a revelation make known that which was before a mystery? And the mystery i speak of is the mystery of iniquity, which is how did it originate. Well, it began in the mind of Adam, and was played out with his deception of his wife, Eve. Is it not written that Adam was right beside Eve when she picked and ate the fruit, yet he made no attempt to stop her (Gen 3)? How come he did not take any action to stop her, neither verbally or physically?

 

[weakness]

Adam is the devil, so all of humanity are his children, except Jesus, because GOD is HIS Father. You see, the only way Eve could believe and state that they were forbidden from eating the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (Gen 3:2-3), which GOD never told Adam (Gen 2:16-17), is if Adam told her this falsehood (lie), because, according to scripture, Adam was the only one to whom GOD spoke the Commandment (Gen 2). This is the first lie ever told, and it was subtle because Eve had no clue or reason to suspect it was not true. In telling Eve this lie, Adam earned the reputations of being subtle (as described above), and as a serpent, which is one who speaks falsehoods (incantations).

Now, before you all get your tails in a tizzy, you might first consider why GOD would not tell us the whole Truth about creation, if angels truly were created apart from man. In fact, their are only a few scriptures in all the Old Testament which speak of the Devil, the author of confusion; therefore, if angels are a distinct creation, then it would seem GOD was keeping them and our main adversary the devil a great mystery. And this is what we have, a lot of mysteries, if Adam is not the devil. However, if Adam is the devil, then there really are NO mysteries about the angels or the devil, and man has fabricated the whole tale. So, do you wish to believe the WORD of GOD or the doctrine of men, because one is truth and the other lies mixed with the truth, such as that told to Eve (don't eat and don't touch)?

Before any of you go and reach for JOB 38:7 to prove me wrong, please realize that since the stars were not formed until the fourth day of creation (Gen 1:14-19), being One day after the planet earth was formed, there is no way this scripture is talking about a point in time when angels existed before man or even the earth. Rather, this scripture (along with verse 6) is taking about the moment GOD spoke to the serpent and Eve about the Savior to Come (who is that CORNERSTONE, Is 28:16), and the reaction of all who heard HIM (see HEB 2:3).


Wake up from your slumber and pull the wool from over your eyes, for this is the fulfillment of the prophesy of THES 2:3-8.

Dear Serpents Lair In the precious name of Jesus Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savoriest not the things that be of God, But those that be of man. And let go of this person that God has made.

 

[kenisyes]

This is actually a very neat little problem. Let's see how you answer my objections:

Eve was in Adam when God spoke to him (male and female created He them); the term alone (2:18) means "making all the decisions without someone to discuss with"; God later separated (Gen 2:23) Adam and Eve. That's how she heard the command. And note, she messed it up a little bit, quoting it back.

Is Adam the serpent? Revelation 12:9 says the serpent is the devil. If Adam is the devil, Adam must be the serpent (not just reputation, but fact). But the serpent does not tell Eve the command, he asks her to repeat it, then disagrees with it. Seems like if all this was coming from one person, Eve would have wondered what to believe. If Adam is the serpent, why were the eyes of "both" opened (Gen 3:7); the devil already knew the truth, or he would not be lying? If Adam is the serpent, why a separate punishment for each? I doubt very much Adam/serpent could do both, as I read it.

If humans are descended from angels, how are we to judge them (I Cor. 6:3)? Yet we are "a little less than angels" in the psalms. How did angels have a "first estate" (Jude 6, 2Pe. 2:4), when God clearly created Adam from the earth?

I see where you get it, because the nephilim allowed themselves to be possessed by the fallen angels in response to God's punishments, thus introducing the angelic spirits into the daughters of men. With those kind of children, the father might well have done something similar. But there are just too many inconsistencies to believe they are one creature.

Angels were not much of a mystery back when the nephilim were around, and until the Library at Alexandria was burned down, those books would have kept the knowledge alive very nicely. Since everyone knew what angels were, God didn't need to put very much in. We actually have enough to reconstruct it, but that's what we need to do if we want to understand it.

 

[MidnightSky]

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

I spy three different entities in the garden

 

[Ugly]

Though Jesus father was not a 'kin of satan', his mother was. So in essence, you're still applying the nature of satan into Jesus human form. So that would make him part satan, part God? Explain that.

 

[weakness]

Though Jesus father was not a 'kin of satan', his mother was. So in essence, you're still applying the nature of satan into Jesus human form. So that would make him part satan, part God? Explain that.

The scripture says Jesus was made in the likeness of the flesh" so that he could be a faithful high priest to us who also are in the flesh and that he in all points could be tempted as we are. He was not in any way Part Satan. For" in him is light and no darkness at all neither shadow of turning" And"in him was not yea and nae but only yea to the glory of God.And although Mary was in the flesh I don't think she was a relative of Satan. I also don't think Satan's nature is flesh and blood "for we wrestle not against flesh and blood...."

 

[resurrection33]

I don’t think Adam is the devil.

 

[iamsoandso]

and see this would have been more fun if we would have let him prove that Adam was the serpent,,that is,,,serpent slayer was beget by,,and ?beget,,and then we back all the way up to your most distant forefathers,,,Adam and eve,,,,and that as Christ said "you will do the work of your father,,,he was the father of lies",,,,,????so in other words you went to his great length to say,,,,,we should not believe nothing you said because you descended from the father of lies",,,,,,,,?,,,,and see I'm confused,,,Enoch the 7'th son from "Adam the serpent",,,,was taken to heaven because he walked with god,and Noah was godly,,,,,,,,,and Abraham,and Issac ,,,and Jacob,,,,,,,,,uh-oh!,,,,,,if you follow the same genealogy down to Christ,,,,,,there he is "Jesus the descendent of the serpent" ,,,,,,,well just seems like there may be a few flaws in it,,,,,,,your right though "should be a short thread",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

Adam is the devil, so all of humanity are his children, except Jesus, because GOD is HIS Father. You see, the only way Eve could believe and state that they were forbidden from eating the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (Gen 3:2-3), which GOD never told Adam (Gen 2:16-17), is if Adam told her this falsehood (lie), because, according to scripture, Adam was the only one to whom GOD spoke the Commandment (Gen 2). This is the first lie ever told, and it was subtle because Eve had no clue or reason to suspect it was not true. In telling Eve this lie, Adam earned the reputations of being subtle (as described above), and as a serpent, which is one who speaks falsehoods (incantations).

Now, before you all get your tails in a tizzy, you might first consider why GOD would not tell us the whole Truth about creation, if angels truly were created apart from man. In fact, their are only a few scriptures in all the Old Testament which speak of the Devil, the author of confusion; therefore, if angels are a distinct creation, then it would seem GOD was keeping them and our main adversary the devil a great mystery. And this is what we have, a lot of mysteries, if Adam is not the devil. However, if Adam is the devil, then there really are NO mysteries about the angels or the devil, and man has fabricated the whole tale. So, do you wish to believe the WORD of GOD or the doctrine of men, because one is truth and the other lies mixed with the truth, such as that told to Eve (don't eat and don't touch)?

Before any of you go and reach for JOB 38:7 to prove me wrong, please realize that since the stars were not formed until the fourth day of creation (Gen 1:14-19), being One day after the planet earth was formed, there is no way this scripture is talking about a point in time when angels existed before man or even the earth. Rather, this scripture (along with verse 6) is taking about the moment GOD spoke to the serpent and Eve about the Savior to Come (who is that CORNERSTONE, Is 28:16), and the reaction of all who heard HIM (see HEB 2:3).


Wake up from your slumber and pull the wool from over your eyes, for this is the fulfillment of the prophesy of THES 2:3-8.

1Ti 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Serpentslayer what you are promoting is the doctrine of the devil.
Again I ask, "Are you a follower of Arnold Murray and his corrupt teachings of the serpent seed doctrine?"

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[Nautilus]

why isnt this guy banned yet? everyone else who spouts heresy is.

 

[koolcas]

how did you come to this conclusion serpentslayer? it so confusing.
the story of adam and eve is to be taken literally.adam was a man...God said let Us make man in our own image.
when reading the scripture, ask God for wisdom. He says if any man lacks wisdom, let Him ask. The Holy Spirit is our teacher. He will help us to understand His Word.

 

[know1]

Scripture does not state this revelation: it must be rightly-divided.
Revelations comes from more than one source, my friend. There is a reason why the bible talks about the, 'doctrine of devils'.
Rightly divid the Word of God can only be done by the Spirit of God, any other spirit cannot.

O.K. megaman; tell me how is it that Eve believed and spoke the untruth -
There's a reason why God gave His word to the man and not to the woman. That's because He knew she would screw it up. And she did just that. Only fooling around on that one.


Or tell me how it is that Eve was deceived,

2Co_11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty,
That about sums it up.


i speak a revelation, but not one from me.

You are correct. This revelation is not from you but if you haven't already noticed, it is the one who carries the message that gets persecuted. I would recommend that you check your revelator source.


Does not a revelation make known that which was before a mystery? And the mystery i speak of is the mystery of iniquity, which is how did it originate. Well, it began in the mind of Adam, and was played out with his deception of his wife, Eve. Is it not written that Adam was right beside Eve when she picked and ate the fruit, yet he made no attempt to stop her (Gen 3)? How come he did not take any action to stop her, neither verbally or physically?

They say that love is blind.
Seriously though, your theory has too many holes and ignors even more scripture. It also appears that you are trying to figure out where angels came from.
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Note that Satan is call a cherub, and below you see that there were cherubims already around when Adam was driven out of the Garden of Eden.


Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


Don't take a single thought or scripture and run with it. Try the spirits with a multitude of scripture, seek God and pray before believing something.

 

[angelofmercy]

Again serpentslayer, you have the correct premise but you do not fully understand the meaning. In the beginning God created man in His own image. Male AND female created He THEM! That's right, plural as in US ALL in the beginning! Each and everyone of us male (power) and female (wisdom). We were spirit, made in His image. We were cherubim! THE IMAGINATION OF GOD!

At the close of the sixth day, God looked back and upon what He made and behold! It was very good.
It was then we sang with God.

Now us being but a thought in God's mind and though He calls into existence those that did not, faith without WORK is dead. God's work in faith is proof being evidenced by the things we can see. So must we work to witness to our own existence.

He FORMS the man, a vessel to place us into according to His wisdom. These very same vessels are the covering cherubs found in Isaiah. The vessel made of dust feeds the carnal mind which gained power through the vessel. In this house we are subjected to the elements! How we look, in need of food shelter, clothing etc.

 

[know1]

Again I ask, "Are you a follower of Arnold Murray and his corrupt teachings of the serpent seed doctrine?"

Who is the Arnold Murray and what is this teaching concerning the seed of the serpent?

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

Who is the Arnold Murray and what is this teaching concerning the seed of the serpent?

The serpent seed and the Kenites

by Matt Slick

Two additional distinguishing and erroneous doctrines of the Shepherd's Chapel are known as the Serpent Seed doctrine and the Kenite doctrine. The two are intimately related. The Serpent Seed doctrine is the teaching that in the Garden of Eden, the serpent (the devil) had sexual relations with Eve. The result was that she bore Cain. The descendents of Cain are called Kenites. Abel, however, is the result of Adam and Eve having relations.

Arnold Murray, the pastor of the Shepherd's Chapel, is the primary advocate of these doctrines which he adamantly teaches and which his followers have adopted as biblical truth. Mr. Murray states,

"When you look for the in-depth meaning of "men as trees, walking", you are able to see that Christ wants us to understand there are plantings of God and plantings of the devil. The plantings of that wicked one began in the garden of Eden with the conception of Cain and follow down through his progeny, the Kenites." (Newsletter #195, Jan 1995. See also, #202, August 1995).

The Kenites, according to Mr. Murray, must be exposed. "We must continue to teach who the Kenites are," says Mr. Murray, (Newsletter #190, August 1994). He states that the Kenites survived the flood (he denies the global flood) and are found in the lineage of Israel, not Judah, (Newsletter #179, Sept. 1993). Eventually, the Kenites permeated the nation of Israel and are the ones who shouted "Crucify Him," in reference to Jesus, (Newsletter #179, Sept. 1993).

In an attempt at biblical support, on his website at Answers to Critics, Mr. Murray states:

"In Gen. 3:15 God is speaking to the serpent, 'and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shall bruise his heel.'"

Mr. Murray infers that when God says "thy seed" to Satan, He is referring to the Kenites, the descendents of Cain which were produced through the literal "seed" of Satan.

Mr. Murray is wrong. We do not really know exactly what form Satan was in the Garden, though I will submit to God's word and affirm it was a serpent of some sort. Now the Hebrew word used there is "nachash" and it means "serpent" or "snake." If we take the word literally as snake, then Mr. Murray would be forced to explain how a literal snake could have sexual intercourse with Eve. If Mr. Murray were to acknowledge the potential of a figurative usage of the term here, then he needs to explain why the term "serpent" would be figurative and the term "seed" would be literal. Furthermore, if the serpent were Satan in a different form, and Eve spoke to the serpent, then did Eve have sex with a snake or with a different form of the snake; that is, did the snake change into another more apropos form to consummate his deception? If so, wouldn't Eve have been suspicious of a talking snake that changes form into something else with which she then agrees to have sexual intercourse? As you can see, the issue, from Mr. Murray's perspective, is wrought with problems.

Nevertheless, his entire position on the Serpent Seed doctrine is easily refuted when we examine Gen. 4:1: "Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, and she said, 'I have gotten a manchild with the help of the Lord.'" We can see that the Bible clearly tells us who the Father of Cain is: Adam. The Serpent Seed idea is proven wrong.

In addition, it is more natural to attribute the term "seed" in Gen. 3:15 as a reference to the spiritual decedents of Satan, not his literal ones. We can see that being a true spiritual descendent is by faith, not by biology. Consider the following verses which speak of spiritual identification.

"For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God," (Rom. 2:28-29).
"For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God," (Rom. 8:14).
"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him in order that we may also be glorified with Him," (Rom. 8:16-17).
"That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants," (Rom. 9:8).

Clearly, being a descendent has a spiritual quality. Likewise, Satan's descendents are those who identify with him in his lies. This is why Jesus said in John 8:44 to the Pharisees,

"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature; for he is a liar, and the father of lies."

In addition, "seed" is also referred to as the word of God (Matt. 13:18-23; Luke 8:11; 1 Pet. 1:23) and as the spiritual life in (1 John 3:9). The whole flavor of spiritual identification with God is included in terms of being the offspring of God (Gal. 3:29; Acts 17:28) and the children of God (Rom. 8:16-17). Consider 1 John 3:9 which says, "No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." Obviously, the Christian does not contain the literal seed of God in him. Seed here, must refer to a spiritual element of indwelling, of ideology, and of faith. That is why the Christian does not practice sin. It is against his beliefs and confession before God and man. Therefore, God's seed abides in the Christian, but it isn't literal seed, it is a reference to spiritual identification.
Us against Them

The Serpent Seed doctrine is an unscriptural and unfortunate teaching. From it is derived an "us against them" mentality in which anyone who disagrees with Mr. Murray can easily be accused of being a Kenite. This is obvious in some of his quotes:

"How many today are teaching from a quarterly written by a Kenite, rather than teaching from God's Word? (Newsletter #193, Nov. 1994).
How can we sum this up? If you are doing God's will, don't worry about criticism from others. "Well, Pastor Murray they say we are a cult." Who cares what they say? God is on our side. Victory is a certainty. Does it ever seem like the enemy is winning? Anytime you get to feeling this way, turn to Psalms 9. This Psalm tells us what we should be earnestly expecting. Keep the meaning of "apokaradokia" in mind as we read this Psalm. (Newsletter #229 - November 1997).

Of course, if you study with him you are not being deceived, but if you are studying elsewhere, you're studying with a Kenite or siding with the enemy. Such are the machinations of this leader who teaches false doctrines.

Please be very wary of the Shepherd's Chapel.

Hope this article gives you a better understanding about Arnold Murray and his serpent seed doctrine.

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[WolfInOxHide]

Adam was not the "serpent", because animal personae were not assigned metaphorically to men and women until YHWH gave them skins to cover themselves, immediately after the fall.

But the "serpent" persona had been assigned previously, to something else.

Eve contemplated good vs. evil for personal gain and acted upon it. She performed the same classic sin of woman that is repeated throughout scripture: harlotry. She withheld sex from Adam for personal gain, breaking the innocence of the relationship. She learned "manipulation"
In doing so, she indirectly taught the same idea of evil for personal gain to Adam.
Adam performed the same classic sin that men repeat throughout scripture: Unrighteous execution of authority. He forced himself upon her anyway. He learned "violence."
The sin of the serpent was the same as it is today: he misrepresented the purpose of the law and the intent of the creator.

The sins were physically sexual, and the punishments fit the crime:
Eve's reproductive pleasure was stunted so that she could no longer gain sexual pleasure from harlotry.
(at least not on the level that she was previously capable of. Imagine if women still acquired this pleasure as easily as man, yet still used it unfairly, how much more rewarded she would be)
Adam's gain was cursed to come only through labor, no more freebies. (Observe how much excess men crave today, when they don't have to labor. The rich keep taking more.)

Look forward to the future ladies, the curse will be lifted in the end.
Look forward to the future men, you'll no longer have to bring home the bacon to get sex.
Once both men and women learn to act cleanly.

 

[megaman125]

Scripture does not state this revelation: it must be rightly-divided.

Rightly-divided =/= adding your own opinions and proclaiming it true over what is written.

i'm saying GOD did speak ALL the TRUTH,

but men insist GOD created beings distinct from man even though HE never said HE did so. Get it?

That is not what you first claimed. You first claimed that God didn't give us the whole truth of creation. I pointed out how you were trying to assert your own truth over the Bible, and now you're trying to backpedale your way out of it because you know you were caught. (Don't feel bad though, I'd probably do the same thing if I got called out for trying to pass off false teachings, I just don't try to pass off false teachings).

As for your statement about men insisting that God created beings distinct from man even though He "never said He did," umm, have you even read the Bible, or are you just hoping that I haven't, because it clearly states that God made the fish and the birds and the beasts and the plants. Or are you trying to say that either those things aren't distinct from man (in which case, you must have some random view of the word "distinct") or are you saying that the Bible is wrong and God didn't create those things?

O.K. megaman; tell me how is it that Eve believed and spoke the untruth - Don't touch (Gen 3:2-3), yet she did not speak the first lie, the devil did (Jn8:44)?

This question is interesting, because God didn't expressly state not to touch in Genesis 2:16-17, but yet it isn't considered the first lie. Not touching the fruit does fall in line with not eating it, so perhaps Eve said not to touch our of reverence for wanting to obey God and not eat (you can't eat if you don't touch).

Or tell me how it is that Eve was deceived, since one who knows the TRUTH can never be deceived about it (assuming Adam told her the TRUTH, the Commandment)? You do know the principle of which i speak, yes?or do you not believe this principle? If not, throw your bible away because it cannot save you from the would-be deceivers of this world.

Yeah, I know the principle you speak of. The answer to your question is rather simple. It's the same way that anyone who knows the truth would still sin. The Bible also says that even the elect will be deceived, so this is easily in the realm of posibbility concerning Eve. Yes, Eve knew the truth and stated the truth, but choose to listen to the serpent (who called God a liar) and thereby, chose to be deceived.

Btw, I asked you to back up your claims about Adam being the devil, and nothing in this post has anything to do with that. Seems someone likes to change topics and jump out of the sinking ship.

i speak a revelation, but not one from me. You would do well to test it out before you so quickly dismiss it just because it is not what you were taught. Does not a revelation make known that which was before a mystery? And the mystery i speak of is the mystery of iniquity, which is how did it originate.

Just because you keep calling it a revelation doesn't make it true. Also, it's not a mystery, the Bible is pretty clear on it.

Well, it began in the mind of Adam, and was played out with his deception of his wife, Eve. Is it not written that Adam was right beside Eve when she picked and ate the fruit, yet he made no attempt to stop her (Gen 3)? How come he did not take any action to stop her, neither verbally or physically?

No, actually that's not what the Bible says. Here, let's take a look.

Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate.
Genesis 3:1-6

Adam was with Eve when Eve looked at the tree, desired, and ate the fruit, but this gives us no basis to conclude Adam is the devil. There's also nothing to indicate that Adam was there for the conversation with the serpent. The words "So when..." imply that there was a passage of time between the conversation with the serpent and the eating of the fruit.

Also, as others have pointed out, there were 3 separate beings God dished out curses for, the serpent, Eve, and Adam. It's clear that the 3 of them are separate beings and Adam is not the devil/serpent.

The real question everyone should start addressing is why I'm giving time to this.

 

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The scripture says Jesus was made in the likeness of the flesh" so that he could be a faithful high priest to us who also are in the flesh and that he in all points could be tempted as we are. He was not in any way Part Satan. For" in him is light and no darkness at all neither shadow of turning" And"in him was not yea and nae but only yea to the glory of God.And although Mary was in the flesh I don't think she was a relative of Satan. I also don't think Satan's nature is flesh and blood "for we wrestle not against flesh and blood...."

Yeah, i know. The question was posted to the OP claiming adam was satan...