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Magenta

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BrightBreezyMorning said:
I wonder how the bible would have gone... if Jesus had said, "we don't fix anyone here." oh my. oh my. Well, are you saying, you have no power to fix a troll? I bet Jesus could fix a troll. I don't mean to be a jerk. But jaded is a word describing people who become complacent because of the daily influx of a certain situation. And I'm not calling you names, but Jesus taught us in Matthew, to endure to the end. So it seems to me that "trying" is a "must" til the end. I just want that kindness and effort, my friend. Just let us all have a go, per se. Let us all try... I pray. And still, God bless you... very much :)
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Jesus did not try to fix Judas. He told him, rather, to be quick about his betrayal... after exposing him as the betrayer.
 
Blain

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NathanJA said:
John 16:2 “I have told you these things so that you will not fall away. They will put you out of the synagogues. In fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. They will do these things because they have not known the Father or Me.

I know when I tell the truth here or anywhere you will kick me out of your synagogue because you actually believe your deceptions are truth. You all are so blind and just like unbelievers you will hate those who speak the truth. You will not even consider what they say because you are wise in your own eyes and stiffnecked. If Jesus was on this earth today you would call him a crazy false messiah just like the pharisees did. You would raise your voice saying "Crucify him" to the government.

God does not reveal truth to the wise and prudent, he only gives truth to the ones who are humble and willing to accept that they could be wrong about everything. You all have some false image of Jesus in your heads and you think he told you to enjoy your lives but in reality he said the opposite. He said he who cares for his life will lose it but he who hates his life will keep it for eternal life.

If you are not willing to experience the worst death on this earth or see everyone of your family members get shot right infront of you then you are not worthy of eternal life through Jesus the son of God.

I have offered you people truth with scripture's proof but you wouldnt listen to me. Quit being wise in your own eyes or you will go to hell.
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You know this post is a bit uncalled for, I will admit that there are some who are right in their own minds who see themselves as wise and they alone hold the truth but many here are also very insightful wise and holy people just because you are disagreed with or even attacked is no reason to clump everyone together like that.

But by claiming you have the truth and by accusing everyone else of being blind by your own standards you are the definition of what you are speaking against, you think any one of us will ever have the full truth? Do you think with our limited understanding even with the holy spirit we will ever fully know and understand the truth of doctrine scripture or God himself?
The bible is like the earths crust or an onion it has m,any layers we can read it for a thousand years and still learn and grow from it the things of God go far beyond what we can ever understand but yes only one who has a teachable spirit who can ask themselves and question if they could be wrong will be truly taught by him but at the same time we have far to many teachers and truth speakers and not near enough students and listeners

And while I am sure you posted plenty of scripture to back your truth up from what I have seen people don't really seem to understand scripture in the right way many cherry pick it or make it say something it isn't many use it as a wepon or to mock or to put others down or just see it from their own perspective and beliefs, I do not know what (truths) you have spoken but if you are bitter from being rejected even though you knew you would be then why are you bitter about it?
 
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Magenta said:
I am not fighting anyone. I am pointing out hypocrisy and error.
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Yeah, but see Jesus wasn't an accuser. If we recall, the accuser was the devil in Revelation. Our job, as being better than Pharisees (accusing) and Sadducees (accusing), was to be kind and forgiving. I despise accusing until they force the name-calling of a "brood of vipers" out of me, lol. That's what "they" do.... the wolves... devouring all day with accusation. We are meant to be the healers. Not the healers of flesh, per se, as we are not Jesus... but at the very least... the healers of spirit if we can. If we attack back... well blood (of wound) begets blood... but if we heal.... the wound... then blood goes away. See what I'm saying?
 
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Lucy-Pevensie said:
It's more an amusement than anything else at this point.
I'm a few hours ahead of you Yanks & I'm going to have to sign off for now. I'll look in again tomorrow.
I hope you enjoy the rest of your morning/day/evening.
God bless & bye for now.
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Yup! Bedtime is important, lol. Good night :)
 
Blain

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BrightBreezyMorning said:
Yeah, but see Jesus wasn't an accuser. If we recall, the accuser was the devil in Revelation. Our job, as being better than Pharisees (accusing) and Sadducees (accusing), was to be kind and forgiving. I despise accusing until they force the name-calling of a "brood of vipers" out of me, lol. That's what "they" do.... the wolves... devouring all day with accusation. We are meant to be the healers. Not the healers of flesh, per se, as we are not Jesus... but at the very least... the healers of spirit if we can. If we attack back... well blood (of wound) begets blood... but if we heal.... the wound... then blood goes away. See what I'm saying?
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The issue I think comes with the disctinction of accusing judging and giving correction, we are called to give correction but it has to be done with love
 
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BrightBreezyMorning said:
I wonder how the bible would have gone... if Jesus had said, "we don't fix anyone here." oh my. oh my. Well, are you saying, you have no power to fix a troll? I bet Jesus could fix a troll. I don't mean to be a jerk. But jaded is a word describing people who become complacent because of the daily influx of a certain situation. And I'm not calling you names, but Jesus taught us in Matthew, to endure to the end. So it seems to me that "trying" is a "must" until the end. I just want that kindness and effort, my friend. Just let us all have a go, per se. Let us all try... I pray. And still, God bless you... very much :)
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remember when Jesus went to his own town The Bible says He could not no works there. I know Jesus can fix a troll yet there are many in the word of God who were not or any recorded of so.

Judas
Felix
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Thos not call ed to do so like the seven sons of Scevia
 
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BrightBreezyMorning said:
I wonder how the bible would have gone... if Jesus had said, "we don't fix anyone here." oh my. oh my. Well, are you saying, you have no power to fix a troll? I bet Jesus could fix a troll. I don't mean to be a jerk. But jaded is a word describing people who become complacent because of the daily influx of a certain situation. And I'm not calling you names, but Jesus taught us in Matthew, to endure to the end. So it seems to me that "trying" is a "must" til the end. I just want that kindness and effort, my friend. Just let us all have a go, per se. Let us all try... I pray. And still, God bless you... very much :)
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it is unwise to allow the foolish to speak to the unlearned.
 
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Magenta said:
Jesus did not try to fix Judas. He told him, rather, to be quick about his betrayal... after exposing him as the betrayer.
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Hmmm... the Judas issue. I hear ya. Still, many would say, could he be forgiven in completing the prophecy. But I recall Jesus saying it had been better that he not be born. Jesus, didn't fix everyone, but he did fix many. So which ones do we fix? Do we not try before throwing our hands up? That was my point. This one we fight with today, seems unwilling to change. But how can we know, until we try? Cause I gotta tell ya... I feel Jesus could smell 'em coming, lol. I can't smell 'em. I gotta test those spirits as scripture says. Now he is tested, still, it's hard to let the last word go to delinquency instead of righteousness for God's word. It's likely the only reason I am still here. God's word means most. It is the most high. So let's just let it scream to the heavens, I guess. :)
 
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CS1 said:
remember when Jesus went to his own town The Bible says He could not no works there. I know Jesus can fix a troll yet there are many in the word of God who were not or any recorded of so.

Judas
Felix
Agrippa
Ceaser
Thos not call ed to do so like the seven sons of Scevia
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Yes, my argument was never that "all" could be healed... but simply that we give healing a chance. And I understand your argument more than you know. I was there once. These days, I just don't care to see condemnation come so fast. And thank you still, for thinking... in terms of God's word :)
 
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Blain said:
You know this post is a bit uncalled for, I will admit that there are some who are right in their own minds who see themselves as wise and they alone hold the truth but many here are also very insightful wise and holy people just because you are disagreed with or even attacked is no reason to clump everyone together like that.

But by claiming you have the truth and by accusing everyone else of being blind by your own standards you are the definition of what you are speaking against, you think any one of us will ever have the full truth? Do you think with our limited understanding even with the holy spirit we will ever fully know and understand the truth of doctrine scripture or God himself?
The bible is like the earths crust or an onion it has m,any layers we can read it for a thousand years and still learn and grow from it the things of God go far beyond what we can ever understand but yes only one who has a teachable spirit who can ask themselves and question if they could be wrong will be truly taught by him but at the same time we have far to many teachers and truth speakers and not near enough students and listeners

And while I am sure you posted plenty of scripture to back your truth up from what I have seen people don't really seem to understand scripture in the right way many cherry pick it or make it say something it isn't many use it as a wepon or to mock or to put others down or just see it from their own perspective and beliefs, I do not know what (truths) you have spoken but if you are bitter from being rejected even though you knew you would be then why are you bitter about it?
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Okay, if we can't fully understand God then prove it with scripture. I can't take your word for it because the heart is deceitful above all things
 
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NathanJA said:
It is not sinful to accuse someone of folly or wickedness but it is sinful if you are wrong but I am not if you use scripture
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Well God called the sinners to reformation. Then who are we to condemn them. I'm a sinner. Who can cast the first stone?
 
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BrightBreezyMorning said:
Yes, my argument was never that "all" could be healed... but simply that we give healing a chance. And I understand your argument more than you know. I was there once. These days, I just don't care to see condemnation come so fast. And thank you still, for thinking... in terms of God's word :)
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first off there is no condemnation with banning it is being banned not be dammed. He is still here you are still engaging in conversation do as you believe you are Led. The idea he is being condemned is ridiculous.
 
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NathanJA said:
Okay, if we can't fully understand God then prove it with scripture. I can't take your word for it because the heart is deceitful above all things
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I'm sorry, but does Blain need to quote scripture for this. Can anyone fully understand God? If they could, then they would equal God, correct? And God created the world, can you? Or do you know anyone who can? Ergo, no one can fully understand God. For God created the heavens and the earth. Even the quadratic formula, and the theory of relativity, were already of God's knowledge and men fall into them through grace, curse, or providence, if you will. God can operate on man, or build a rocket ship. Men simply fall into such knowledge, or are allowed it through the space of time, and the will of God. But we ask too much in inquiring of God's knowledge that leads us to destruction, because we were unsatisfied with simplicity and being a common man (as scripture mentions is good), imo. But no man... shall ever... fully understand God. Perhaps it is "your" job to prove otherwise.
 
Magenta

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BrightBreezyMorning said:
Hmmm... the Judas issue. I hear ya. Still, many would say, could he be forgiven in completing the prophecy. But I recall Jesus saying it had been better that he not be born. Jesus, didn't fix everyone, but he did fix many. So which ones do we fix? Do we not try before throwing our hands up? That was my point. This one we fight with today, seems unwilling to change. But how can we know, until we try? Cause I gotta tell ya... I feel Jesus could smell 'em coming, lol. I can't smell 'em. I gotta test those spirits as scripture says. Now he is tested, still, it's hard to let the last word go to delinquency instead of righteousness for God's word. It's likely the only reason I am still here. God's word means most. It is the most high. So let's just let it scream to the heavens, I guess. :)
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Judas was called a son of perdition, so, no, he was not going to be forgiven, for
the fact of the matter is, Jesus said Judas was not clean, and called him a devil.

"And you disciples are clean, but not all of you.” For Jesus knew who would betray Him.

Jesus replied to them, “Didn’t I choose you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is the Devil!” He was
referring to Judas, Simon Iscariot’s son, one of the Twelve, because he was going to betray Him.
 
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