The Two Greatest Commandments are for Israel

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zone

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Really? Where did you come up with that idea? Was it something I posted? No. Israel is all races.
you don't know what you're posting?

The United States of America IMO is fully representative of Ephraim, who received the double portion blessing. America was founded on Godly principles and the pledge of allegiance says

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands,

one Nation


under God,


indivisible,

with liberty and justice for all.


Joh 11:49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
Joh 11:50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
Joh 11:51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
Joh 11:52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

Where are the children of God that were scattered abroad? The House of Israel (lost ten tribes) went into captivity and lost their identity.

God knows where they are (and they call themselves Gentiles) and it is the two wealthiest nations on Earth that represent Manasseh and Ephraim, Britain and America. God's children are scattered on the whole Earth, and He will rejoice when the last sheep is found.

(Mat 10:6) But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

(Mat 15:24) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

(Luk 15:4) What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?

(Luk 15:6) And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.

Are you the lost sheep of the house of Israel? Pray and ask for the revelation of truth who you are in Christ Jesus.
British Israelism Debunked
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What is the New Covenant to you based on scriptures and can you show me where in scripture that you remain a Gentile?
[h=3]Hebrews 8:10-13[/h]King James Version (KJV)

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
The new covenant is a blood covenant between GOD and Israel into forgiveness of sins. In the flesh I am of the nations, but in the spirit I am grafted into the Israel of GOD, which is a spiritual nation.
 
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If the context of these passages makes it clear that they are only directed at Israel, then I'm sure that the 10 commandments (from Exodus 20) would also have been, as well.

20 And God spoke all these words:
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God,punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Were you brought up out of Egypt? Out of slavery? No? Then I guess you were never commanded not to murder, lie, steal, or commit adultery.
 
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The United States of America IMO is fully representative of Ephraim, who received the double portion blessing. America was founded on Godly principles and the pledge of allegiance says

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands,

one Nation


under God,
This phrase was added to the pledge in the 1960's... so if that's your evidence, would your argument be untrue for the US before the 1960's?
 

JaumeJ

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If the previous post, mine, of our Master is understood, then, yes, being of the faith of Abraham, we were all commanded by the Father to obey Him, even when we live in grace and the guilt of our transgressions is not held against us, we are yet expected to obey.

What type of child does not want to obey His Father?


If the context of these passages makes it clear that they are only directed at Israel, then I'm sure that the 10 commandments (from Exodus 20) would also have been, as well.



Were you brought up out of Egypt? Out of slavery? No? Then I guess you were never commanded not to murder, lie, steal, or commit adultery.
Please consider and meditate on the Master's words on this subject, in part that is.



Joh 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.


Luk 12:32
Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

It has not been made a dark mystery. If the words of the Master do not convince you, even One come back from the dead will not be heard, amen.



 
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They dont make corrections, and unlike them, I know everything about that Bible teacher.
What is his favorite jelley?S


So i know they ( CARM ), are passing alone lies. And I know , since your quoting them ( CARM, and sites like them ) , you dont know either..
That's rather spurious logic. I've not quoted them, only referenced them. There's been quite a few people come to these forums claiming Arnold Murray who taught serpent seed doctrine. I learned about serpent seed doctrine long before I learned about Arnold Murray. Everyone who taught it here referred to Arnold Murray as this great bible teacher that anyone who is anyone listens to.S

So what your doing is being lead about by liars , and quoting their falsehoods verbatim without question .
Why don't you just watch his shows for yourself?
 
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What is his favorite jelley?

Why don't you just watch his shows for yourself?
Marmalade or strawberry jam ... Jelly is kinda fake...

And I have , that is how I can say what I say with confidence ( from scripture ); knowing I'm right.

I don't have to reference a third party of non-christians - ( CARM , & others like them ); which also don't study the Bible.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Marmalade or strawberry jam ... Jelly is kinda fake...

And I have , that is how I can say what I say with confidence ( from scripture ); knowing I'm right.

I don't have to reference a third party of non-christians - ( CARM , & others like them ); which also don't study the Bible.
Does he wear boxers or briefs?
 
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Mark 12:4Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully.

Leviticus 11:7
And the pig, though it has a divided hoof, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you.

Acts 10:14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”

15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

Romans 14:3
The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them.

Matthew 7:12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Luke 11:41
But now as for what is inside you—be generous to the poor, and everything will be clean for you.
 

WomanLovesTX

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you don't know what you're posting?



British Israelism Debunked
British Israelism: a serpent's tale?
British Israelism Debunked

So you equate this British Israelism with what? White people?
IMO Manessah and Ephraim represent all Gentiles of all nations on earth wherever they migrate from or to. This
Means all races. But I do believe that Britain and America are the evidence of grandpa Jacob's double blessing. And now these two lands are due for curses.
 

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This phrase was added to the pledge in the 1960's... so if that's your evidence, would your argument be untrue for the US before the 1960's?
Your straining girl, is this your attempt to discredit me and then what? Of all the posts you want to focus on what?

My position is we are all in one body, one nation of the comomonwealth of Israel. The division utilizing dispensation, separating The Church from God's chosen people who are called Israel is error My point is to tear down the false teachings that the church is new and replaces the old testament instructions of Torah. All are under grace and are called. Called to what? To obedience to the Word, United in Spirit and truth, Yeshua our Messiah, our Rabbi, our Lord our King, our judge, one nation under one God.
 

WomanLovesTX

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What is his favorite jelley?S



That's rather spurious logic. I've not quoted them, only referenced them. There's been quite a few people come to these forums claiming Arnold Murray who taught serpent seed doctrine. I learned about serpent seed doctrine long before I learned about Arnold Murray. Everyone who taught it here referred to Arnold Murray as this great bible teacher that anyone who is anyone listens to.S


Why don't you just watch his shows for yourself?
You need to move your conversation to somewhere else because your being disrespectful with your topic here.
 

zone

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This phrase was added to the pledge in the 1960's... so if that's your evidence, would your argument be untrue for the US before the 1960's?
 

zone

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And I have , that is how I can say what I say with confidence ( from scripture ); knowing I'm right.
bah...you're not referencing anything from scripture. you're not right.
you're regurgitating dumb stories that nobody believes.

seriously nathan....just find the roots of it.
your linguistics stuff is silly.

Isaac's Sons = Saxons? ser....i....ous....ly?

SAXON

Origin:

Middle English: from Old French, from late Latin and Greek Saxones (plural), of West Germanic origin; related to Old English Seaxan, Seaxe (plural), perhaps from the base of sax2

Definition of sax in English
sax2
Pronunciation: /saks/
(also zax /zaks/)

noun
a small axe used for cutting roof slates, with a point for making nail holes.

Origin:

Old English seax 'knife', of Germanic origin, from an Indo-European root meaning 'cut'

knife; cut....axe....that's it nathan.

Jacob's Sons?

well, yer Anglos weren't very Christlike in their fellowship with The Jacob-ins:)

I don't have to reference a third party of non-christians - ( CARM , & others like them ); which also don't study the Bible.
you know Matt Slick doesn't study the Bible?:confused:
non-christians? - hold up - pretty sure Matt is WHITE, and American....that settles it.
 
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.............Grief................ I'm at least glad for the few ; that can and will study this themselves . They will find the truth.
 

zone

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Does he wear boxers or briefs?
eww....don't know - or care.

but he packs a 9mm in his briefcase....no problem pulling it out when a heckler shows up in studio.
 

zone

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So you equate this British Israelism with what? White people?
IMO Manessah and Ephraim represent all Gentiles of all nations on earth wherever they migrate from or to. This
Means all races. But I do believe that Britain and America are the evidence of grandpa Jacob's double blessing. And now these two lands are due for curses.
grandpa Jacob?

:confused:

a-a-a-a-a-a-anyways....just mangling the Word.
later.
 

loveme1

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John 4

6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
Let us be careful not to believe the Blessing comes from the Well that the woman drew from.
 

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If the context of these passages makes it clear that they are only directed at Israel, then I'm sure that the 10 commandments (from Exodus 20) would also have been, as well.



Were you brought up out of Egypt? Out of slavery? No? Then I guess you were never commanded not to murder, lie, steal, or commit adultery.
I believe I understand the point you are emphasizing, however as an Israelite (natural or adopted or grafted in) we should claim this history of being brought out of bondage as both literal and spiritual in our lives. I obviously wasn't there in person, but it is my heritage of what came before me.

What do you think the following verse means?

John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
 
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What do you think the following verse means?

John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
They were obviously talking about themselves personally, and not about either Israel or Judah, because both were enslaved at some point.