The vanishing male

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saintrose

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I've watched the destruction of America and part of the fault as I see it are the churches - they're not leading. 501C probably had a lot to do with it. But I've seen a disturbing trend of lack of male leadership. Look at the tyranny that has come to America. Where are all the men opposing it? Is this really how you believe God designed men to be?

We can see the great falling away but we can also see the vanishing male. Why are there so few pastors and men opposing it? I'd like to see others' take on this.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Men are suffering from a generation of ideological warfare. It didn't happen overnight.
 

Nehemiah6

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I've watched the destruction of America and part of the fault as I see it are the churches - they're not leading.
There are many factors which have led to a crisis in male leadership.

1. The churches abandoned the New Testament pattern of how churches should function. Which meant that Christian men were not taught and encouraged to be leaders.

2. The virus of Liberalism infected the churches, schools, colleges, and universities. As a result worldly philosophies and ideas entered into the churches.

3. The roles of men and women in the church, in the home, and in the workplace began to be reversed starting in the early 20th century, and women began to dominate in areas where they should not have been involved. Even the armed forces had to water down their standards to accommodate women.

4. While seeking equality with men, women became more equal, and men were downgraded. Then along came Feminism (rooted in Communism) in order to emasculate men. If truth be told American women control society, while the men stand by. It did not help when cartoon characters like Blondie and Dagwood or Jiggs and Maggie were presented to the public.

5. Divorce started becoming commonplace, and the traditional families began falling apart. At the same time courts began favoring women over their husbands, single mothers became the trend, father figures were absent, and conservatism was replaced by liberalism throughout society.

6. Abortions (murders) were legalized and women claimed that they alone had the right to decide as to who lived and who died. This was criminal, but became very prevalent in America and the West.

7. Above all Christianity became Liberal Christianity, and eventually began to be abandoned for eastern religions, New Age nonsense, atheism, and even paganism. And because America abandoned its Christians roots, men became non-leaders while women aggressively took that role.

8. Today we have demonic transgenderism so that young people are deliberately indoctrinated to be confused about who they really are (biology notwithstanding).
 

Edify

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I would say very few know that they are a part of the falling away. Most of them don't even believe in a falling away.
Matthew 7:13“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easya that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
 

Seeker47

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#6
Men and masculinity have been under constant attack for the past 60 years. What we see today is the end result. Culture is dominated by feminism (or more accurately anti-masculinity) and men have surrendered. We have been hemmed in and socially emasculated, to speak out is sexist, bigoted, expressions of toxic masculinity, misogyny or even mansplaining. We surrendered, all too easily. No one, men or women, like the result.
 

Mofastus

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Ecclesiastes 7:27 Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:

Ecclesiastes 7:28 Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.

nothing new, and God knows His own
 

Aaron56

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Look at the tyranny that has come to America.
Regarding politics, there is only one side declaring support for the church. They chose a Mormon and most recently a frequent philanderer as their representative in the highest office of the country.

What is missing is a standard by which men can be judged. It certainly isn't a member of a cult, a liar and a philanderer, or any other form on nonsence the church has been scrambling to support. Real men don't choose the lesser of any evil.
 

Mofastus

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#9
Galatians 6:4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5 For every man shall bear his own burden.
 

SomeDisciple

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White knights riding forth to champion the cause of women, and weak supplicative men- both make me sick, but especially the supplicative ones. It's hard not to feel contempt. But the other day I was listening to this guy talk about how women displacing men in the workplace was "equality". You have mothers in the workforce not raising their kids, and keeping the jobs their sons should be entering into. It's retarded.
Yep, let women- no, foreign women even- take that job, so your son can waste away.
 

tourist

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White knights riding forth to champion the cause of women, and weak supplicative men- both make me sick, but especially the supplicative ones. It's hard not to feel contempt. But the other day I was listening to this guy talk about how women displacing men in the workplace was "equality". You have mothers in the workforce not raising their kids, and keeping the jobs their sons should be entering into. It's retarded.
Yep, let women- no, foreign women even- take that job, so your son can waste away.
I am sure that most women in the workplace are there because they need the money that they earned to feed their children and for bills. Not all women have sons and not all children are adults that can work. The guy you listened to is ignorant.
 

Seeker47

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If TV treated women today the same way they teat men, the howl of anger would reach the depth of the kingdom below. The end result of radical feminism has been destruction of masculinity and termination of feminine modesty and decorum. It has created the very thing it railed against at the beginning.
 

montana123

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In order to have a one world government and religious system, and the new age movement where all are equal and will evolve to be equal spiritually they must knock down the men and boost the women.

They must knock down the heterosexuals and boost up the homosexuals.

They must knock down the religious and boost the atheists.

They must known down the parents and boost the children which they loved the 1960's counterculture movement and the rebelliousness of it.

They must put all people on an equal level in hope that all people will eventually come together as one.

The new age movement is the plan now that interprets the Bible and religions according to evolution and people are still evolving to be spiritual.

That is why they took prayer out of school and taught evolution although they will say it was for a different reason.
 

saintrose

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Simple, because the majority are part of it!
By saying that you are implying that you are not. Are you personally opposing tyranny?

I've read so many people exclaim shock at how the average person could turn a blind eye to what was occurring in Nazi Germany. Yet we see hardly a soul speak out about what's happening in America. Where are the remnant?
 

saintrose

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#17
There are many factors which have led to a crisis in male leadership.

1. The churches abandoned the New Testament pattern of how churches should function. Which meant that Christian men were not taught and encouraged to be leaders.

2. The virus of Liberalism infected the churches, schools, colleges, and universities. As a result worldly philosophies and ideas entered into the churches.

3. The roles of men and women in the church, in the home, and in the workplace began to be reversed starting in the early 20th century, and women began to dominate in areas where they should not have been involved. Even the armed forces had to water down their standards to accommodate women.

4. While seeking equality with men, women became more equal, and men were downgraded. Then along came Feminism (rooted in Communism) in order to emasculate men. If truth be told American women control society, while the men stand by. It did not help when cartoon characters like Blondie and Dagwood or Jiggs and Maggie were presented to the public.

5. Divorce started becoming commonplace, and the traditional families began falling apart. At the same time courts began favoring women over their husbands, single mothers became the trend, father figures were absent, and conservatism was replaced by liberalism throughout society.

6. Abortions (murders) were legalized and women claimed that they alone had the right to decide as to who lived and who died. This was criminal, but became very prevalent in America and the West.

7. Above all Christianity became Liberal Christianity, and eventually began to be abandoned for eastern religions, New Age nonsense, atheism, and even paganism. And because America abandoned its Christians roots, men became non-leaders while women aggressively took that role.

8. Today we have demonic transgenderism so that young people are deliberately indoctrinated to be confused about who they really are (biology notwithstanding).
You covered the bases. It's good to see informed people. What can we do about it?

“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak.
Not to act is to act.”
― Dietrich Bonhoeffer
 

saintrose

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#18
I would say very few know that they are a part of the falling away. Most of them don't even believe in a falling away.
Matthew 7:13“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easya that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
Yes I agree. The narrow way is very very hard. I think over half the church is populated with the unregenerate.
 

saintrose

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#19
Men and masculinity have been under constant attack for the past 60 years. What we see today is the end result. Culture is dominated by feminism (or more accurately anti-masculinity) and men have surrendered. We have been hemmed in and socially emasculated, to speak out is sexist, bigoted, expressions of toxic masculinity, misogyny or even mansplaining. We surrendered, all too easily. No one, men or women, like the result.
I see that too. If you look at some pictures of radical feminists it's alarming. I used to watch a lot of Dateline to hone my senses. I saw some of these women prosecutors who seemed hateful and wanting to stick it to people. To the discerning eye you can see they're bitter and angry. I watched a documentary on women who chose careers over family - just as the illuminati-owned media wants them to in order to reduce the population. Those women were bitter. They had achieved the pinnacle of their career and were miserable. One woman broke down in tears and said "Everyone told me to pursue and education and a career and now I'm alone with no children. No one told me to pursue a family."

The toxic masculinity lie is ugly and likely confusing a generation of young males. Deep in their hearts women want men to be masculine.
 

saintrose

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#20
White knights riding forth to champion the cause of women, and weak supplicative men- both make me sick, but especially the supplicative ones. It's hard not to feel contempt. But the other day I was listening to this guy talk about how women displacing men in the workplace was "equality". You have mothers in the workforce not raising their kids, and keeping the jobs their sons should be entering into. It's retarded.
Yep, let women- no, foreign women even- take that job, so your son can waste away.
No one is home minding the store. Foreigners are displacing American workers at an alarming rate at the same time NAFTA gutted American manufacturing. We drove cross country and saw city after city that died when the manufacturing left. Now everything is made in China - and cheap.