Theory of Evolution

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Kerry

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Why are humans the only ones that build cities and arenas to play sports. What caused us to do that, what environment saw that need to survive. Why is that humans seem to feel the need to worship something. No animal does that. No animals really cares if their spouse has children from a different spouse. Why?
 
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Kerry

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Because evolution is a bald face lie. That is why. We wear clothes because we are ashamed of our nakedness. We hate cheaters because we are supposed to have one wife. All according to the bible.
 
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You can read in Revelation that there is no sun or moon, only the light of God.
the bible does not say there will be no sun and moon but that its light is not needed just like in genesis

God is the light He oushines the moon and the sun that is what it meant
 
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Because evolution is a bald face lie. That is why. We wear clothes because we are ashamed of our nakedness. We hate cheaters because we are supposed to have one wife. All according to the bible.
ironically you don ot believe in evolution but the gap theory hmm the both are in the same barcket false hood
 
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Yeshy

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Evolution is callede THEORY of Evolution because it cannot be proven. On the contrary, Science has tried to duplicate evolution and the only time is even comes close to working is when there is a NEGATIVE mutation.

I mean, really...does anyone really believe that one cell fostered everything and that the birds and bees just figured out on their own that they should help in the whole pollination thing?? No.
Maggie
It seems to me that what your interpretation of the word '' theory '' means is it's careless and has a lot of assumptions. And in your case a guess. Theories are the heart of science, they pull together observations , laws , hypotheses and inferences into coherent explanations for the great mysteries of the universe.

In the 1800's Charles Darwin observed ( Oh! that's that word I mentioned above '' Observations ''! ) enormous diversities of life on earth and set out to explain it. From the evidence he collected Darwin developed his theory of evolution by natural selection. The theory that explains how new species originate. What a theory does is it draws the ideas together, it draws the observations together to make SENSE of them, to allow you to make expectations. That's what a theory is, then we go and test those expectations.
People used to believe that the sun revolved around the planet earth because that's how it looked, right? Over time, the study of accumulation of evidence supported a different THEORY. That the earth, or planets revolved around the sun.

And what about gravity? Have you said '' Oh? gravity? That's just a theory. I don't believe in it. '' A lot of people seem to think that you need to be able to see something directly in order to accept that it's a good scientific idea. But in reality, all you're seeing when you see a book falling are the affects of gravity. You're not really seeing gravity itself. Gravity is something of gravitational theory, something that we have yet to fully explain. Even so, we still rely on theories to make predictions that help us conduct our lives, to travel , heal the sick and to explore the universe.

Before anyone had traveled to the moon, NASA scientists applied gravitational theory to predict what it'll be like to move in the lunar environment. Predictions like these are called INFERENCES. An inference is a conclusion that you can draw from the available evidence. Charles Darwin inferred, from the evidence available to him, that all living creatures including humans descended from a common ancestor. '' The tree of life ''. Today scientists continue to find evidence that supports Darwin's common ancestor INFERENCE In the fossil record and in genes. With new discoveries, details of scientific theories are refined, and scientists are comfortable with the notion that theories are constantly challenged and amended. That's the nature of science.

If apples, suddenly start rising you can be sure that some aspect of gravitational theory will change. But science will not reject the very idea that there is a force called '' gravity ''. New discoveries may also refine the elements of the theory of evolution by natural selection. But the notion of the earth and its inhabitants have evolved from a common ancestor will not change.
 
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It seems to me that what your interpretation of the word '' theory '' means is it's careless and has a lot of assumptions. And in your case a guess. Theories are the heart of science, they pull together observations , laws , hypotheses and inferences into coherent explanations for the great mysteries of the universe.

In the 1800's Charles Darwin observed ( Oh! that's that word I mentioned above '' Observations ''! ) enormous diversities of life on earth and set out to explain it. From the evidence he collected Darwin developed his theory of evolution by natural selection. The theory that explains how new species originate. What a theory does is it draws the ideas together, it draws the observations together to make SENSE of them, to allow you to make expectations. That's what a theory is, then we go and test those expectations.
People used to believe that the sun revolved around the planet earth because that's how it looked, right? Over time, the study of accumulation of evidence supported a different THEORY. That the earth, or planets revolved around the sun.

And what about gravity? Have you said '' Oh? gravity? That's just a theory. I don't believe in it. '' A lot of people seem to think that you need to be able to see something directly in order to accept that it's a good scientific idea. But in reality, all you're seeing when you see a book falling are the affects of gravity. You're not really seeing gravity itself. Gravity is something of gravitational theory, something that we have yet to fully explain. Even so, we still rely on theories to make predictions that help us conduct our lives, to travel , heal the sick and to explore the universe.

Before anyone had traveled to the moon, NASA scientists applied gravitational theory to predict what it'll be like to move in the lunar environment. Predictions like these are called INFERENCES. An inference is a conclusion that you can draw from the available evidence. Charles Darwin inferred, from the evidence available to him, that all living creatures including humans descended from a common ancestor. '' The tree of life ''. Today scientists continue to find evidence that supports Darwin's common ancestor INFERENCE In the fossil record and in genes. With new discoveries, details of scientific theories are refined, and scientists are comfortable with the notion that theories are constantly challenged and amended. That's the nature of science.

If apples, suddenly start rising you can be sure that some aspect of gravitational theory will change. But science will not reject the very idea that there is a force called '' gravity ''. New discoveries may also refine the elements of the theory of evolution by natural selection. But the notion of the earth and its inhabitants have evolved from a common ancestor will not change.

How long did it take man to figure out that the earth is not flat ?

how long did it take for man to know that the earth hangs on nothing ?
 

p_rehbein

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What does it matter what you call EVOLUTION? . . . I mean honestly, call it a hypothesis, call it a law, call it a sandwich . . . The fact remains that it has all the evidence to boost it up to Theory status, right next to Gravity and Heliocentricism.

A rose is just as beautiful by any other name . . . Evolution is just as proven by any other classification.

I hope I'm not coming off as arrogant. :p Thank you all for caring so much about the issue, have a great day or night depending on where you are.
Arrogance requires some modicum of intelligence, so, I think you are safe on that one..........have a great day or night yourself......... :)

Odd that "evolutionists" preach against "creation" and USE CREATED evidence to support their Theory..........(is it just me?)

:):):)
 
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Dear Yeshy

You refuse to answer those simple question
i will let the bible answer it for you

[h=3]Job 26:7[/h]King James Version (KJV)

7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:



These people lived thousands of years before telescope space ship etc

How can they know such high sophisticated stuff hmmm
but there is a God in the heavens that revealeth the secret things unto His servants
 
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Yeshy

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The greeks were the first to discover that the earth was actually a sphere. Eratosthenes of Cyrene ( 230 BC ) was the first person to calculate the circumference of the earth.

Obviously, only a circle can have a circumference. Eratosthenes had the idea of measuring the circumference because everyone already knew that the earth was round. He knew that in Syene, 800 km south of his home in Alexandria, there was no shadow at noon on 21st of June. So on that day, he measured the shadows in Alexandria at noon. He could then calculate the sun's angle of elevation - It was just over 7 degrees. Since a full circle is 360 degrees, right? he concluded that the distance from Alexandria to Syene must be 7/360 of the earth's circumference of the Earth must be fifty times the distance from Alexandria to Syene or 40,000km

This is pretty well correct!

And for your second Question...


You need to take a course on hermeneutics, your understanding of texts in their context is so misguided. firstly, you cannot take one scripture like Job 9:6 and say boom theres proof, pillars! read the entire of Job 9…thats why it is there. Try and understand the writers tone and to what degree something is metaphorical or literal. I understand clearly the whole purpose is to bash Christianity, but try a little to be intellectual and unbias in your interpretation. Otherwise your goal of getting people against the bible is merely just going to fuel the already anti-biblical people, and not any sceptics. Also, the earth hangs upon nothing, please explain how that can be metaphorical? how many times have writers in the bible expressed the earth in a metaphorical way, especially like that. 1 Samuel 2:8, again taking one piece of writing and ignoring the context completely. “But imagine if tomorrow we discovered that the earth actually was set on pillars! Wouldn’t Christians immediately say the exact opposite?” – no, because then Job would not have written that. Come now…
 

john832

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The greeks were the first to discover that the earth was actually a sphere. Eratosthenes of Cyrene ( 230 BC ) was the first person to calculate the circumference of the earth.


Mythbusters...

Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Isaiah beat him to it.

Obviously, only a circle can have a circumference. Eratosthenes had the idea of measuring the circumference because everyone already knew that the earth was round. He knew that in Syene, 800 km south of his home in Alexandria, there was no shadow at noon on 21st of June. So on that day, he measured the shadows in Alexandria at noon. He could then calculate the sun's angle of elevation - It was just over 7 degrees. Since a full circle is 360 degrees, right? he concluded that the distance from Alexandria to Syene must be 7/360 of the earth's circumference of the Earth must be fifty times the distance from Alexandria to Syene or 40,000km

This is pretty well correct!
Myth: Busted!

And for your second Question...
You need to take a course on hermeneutics, your understanding of texts in their context is so misguided. firstly, you cannot take one scripture like Job 9:6 and say boom theres proof, pillars! read the entire of Job 9…thats why it is there. Try and understand the writers tone and to what degree something is metaphorical or literal. I understand clearly the whole purpose is to bash Christianity, but try a little to be intellectual and unbias in your interpretation. Otherwise your goal of getting people against the bible is merely just going to fuel the already anti-biblical people, and not any sceptics. Also, the earth hangs upon nothing, please explain how that can be metaphorical? how many times have writers in the bible expressed the earth in a metaphorical way, especially like that. 1 Samuel 2:8, again taking one piece of writing and ignoring the context completely. “But imagine if tomorrow we discovered that the earth actually was set on pillars! Wouldn’t Christians immediately say the exact opposite?” – no, because then Job would not have written that. Come now…
Ah, there is where I went wrong, I believed the scripture instead of my professor...

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Isa 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

The above are words in red in my Bible. It is not what I learned in class.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Give me evidence OUTSIDE THE BIBLE that Creationism is worth investing thought into and that 'god did it all.'
Give me evidence outside scientific methods that evolution is worth investing thought into, and that 'mother nature did it all.'

Proceed with your inconsistancies, and your inability to understand basic epistemological contradictions.
 
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2Thewaters

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It is kind of like the theory of christmas
or the theory of purgatory
or the theory of immaculate conception
or the theory of Obamacare
or the theory of government
or anything else that can never be.
 
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2Thewaters

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If you believe in evolution
you cannot have the spirit of truth

If you want the spirit of truth and love,
pray for it until you get it
God will give it to you.
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He wants to save as many who have been deceived as possible.
you disbelieve the bible and there is nothing to talk about.
go read your bible and get to know your Eternal creator
 
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Yeshy

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Mythbusters...

Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Isaiah beat him to it.



Myth: Busted!



Ah, there is where I went wrong, I believed the scripture instead of my professor...

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Isa 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

The above are words in red in my Bible. It is not what I learned in class.
Sorry John, you have no provided a rebuttal for the circumference portion only '' Myth busted ! ''
Bible quotes won't exactly help you johnny boy. :/ good try though.
 

john832

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Sorry John, you have no provided a rebuttal for the circumference portion only '' Myth busted ! ''
Bible quotes won't exactly help you johnny boy. :/ good try though.
Don't feel sorry for me, I'll live with what I got.
 
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Yeshy

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If you believe in evolution
you cannot have the spirit of truth

If you want the spirit of truth and love,
pray for it until you get it
God will give it to you.
......................

He wants to save as many who have been deceived as possible.
you disbelieve the bible and there is nothing to talk about.
go read your bible and get to know your Eternal creator
What if fellow believers of your cult are believers of the God of the bible, devoted followers and agree with evolution? I actually do know some believers that do agree with evolution. That's a little judgemental on your part there 2Thewaters.
 
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2Thewaters

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you cant argue a topic that is silly

saying Let us argue about the moon being made of green chees will not be a fruitful argument
and it will loose souls

The problem is most people today have damaged physics brains
We are 34 in science in the world
CARTOONS and BUGS BUNNY physics in their minds because their natural science minds have been twisted so bad they cant see anymore

cartoon haracters walk off cliff but dont fall until they look down
road runners and coyotes running at light speed
lightning hitting a rock and a martian pops up

each one of these did damage to your brain

life cannot sponstaneous generat

it can be easily proved with a supercomputer, run the program i put in here
you will never make one insulin molecule randomly
never
it can't happen
it is the simplest molecule
it
just
didnt
happen

we have TRILLIONS of generations all after their own kind
and their conclusion is
all generations change a bit
total idiocy.
 
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