There Will Be No Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Jesus Dissolves It By Fire!

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Keras

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Don't look like biblical fiction to me, the Lord Jesus Christ returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this existing earth

Whole bunch of fire going on in the scriptures below, biblical fiction, (Real Big Smiles)!

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ!
Thats because you choose to shuffle Revelation. Placing the Sixth seal at the Return is illogical and nowhere does the Bible say He Returns in fire to destroy and replace the universe.

All the scriptures you posted, except Rev 20:9 and 2 Peter 3:13, describe the Lord's terrible Day of wrath, at least 10 years BEFORE the glorious Return.
 

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It seems like the so-called "Millennial Kingdom On This Earth" is the restored Israel, prophesied in Ezekiel 37 - 48? This "Millennial Kingdom" is however ruled on earth by an earthly prince, and from heaven by Jeshua ha'Maschiach / Jesus the Messiah, who sits on the right hand of God the Father. It seems like the last earthly descendent, of the earthly prince will be an anti-Messiah, raising himself up to be a god to be worshipped - then Jeshua ha'Maschiach / Jesus the Messiah will return, and this earth, will be dissolved by fire at his return?
 

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It seems like the so-called "Millennial Kingdom On This Earth" is the restored Israel, prophesied in Ezekiel 37 - 48? This "Millennial Kingdom" is however ruled on earth by an earthly prince, and from heaven by Jeshua ha'Maschiach / Jesus the Messiah, who sits on the right hand of God the Father. It seems like the last earthly descendent, of the earthly prince will be an anti-Messiah, raising himself up to be a god to be worshipped - then Jeshua ha'Maschiach / Jesus the Messiah will return, and this earth, will be dissolved by fire at his return?
You have confused the period before Jesus Returns, with the Millennium Kingdom.
Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11 and Ezekiel 44:18, all refer to a leader who will rule God's people before Jesus Returns to rule all of the world. That leader will meet Jesus in the Spirit, as Jer 30:21 says.

The terrible Judgement/punishment by fire from the sun, the Sixth Seal disaster, will be the event that will commence all the prophesied things that must happen before Jesus Returns, about 10 years later.
Only after His 1000 year reign, will the final Judgment occur, Revelation 20:11-15 and after that the old earth will be gone and there will come the new Jerusalem. Rev 21 to 22
 

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It's time to change your screen name to "FakeNews6t6"
That's correct, Revelation 20:1-6 dosent show a physical kingdom or mortal humans present, you can't respond, because there isn't any kingdom or humans seen.

Personal attacks come, when defeat has settled in, (Big Smiles)

Facts: Revelation 20:1-6

1.)No Kingdom On Earth Is Seen

2.) No Mortal Humans Seen
 

Truth7t7

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Thats because you choose to shuffle Revelation. Placing the Sixth seal at the Return is illogical and nowhere does the Bible say He Returns in fire to destroy and replace the universe.

All the scriptures you posted, except Rev 20:9 and 2 Peter 3:13, describe the Lord's terrible Day of wrath, at least 10 years BEFORE the glorious Return.
When Jesus Christ Is Revealed, Its Fire Time, No Human Escapes Judgement By This Fire, 1 Corinthians 3:13

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God
, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.




 

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When Jesus Christ Is Revealed, Its Fire Time, No Human Escapes Judgement By This Fire, 1 Corinthians 3:13
Right, but not one of your scripture quotes refer to the glorious Return of Jesus, when He simply disposes the attacking armies of Satan, by the Sword of His Word.

Your error is plain to all, but you just keep on trying to force the false theory of a fiery judgment at the Return.
 

Truth7t7

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Right, but not one of your scripture quotes refer to the glorious Return of Jesus, when He simply disposes the attacking armies of Satan, by the Sword of His Word.

Your error is plain to all, but you just keep on trying to force the false theory of a fiery judgment at the Return.
The verses below proves you wrong, Jesus Christ will be revealed in fire and destruction.

You falsely believe Jesus is revealed to start a Millennium on earth

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
 

Keras

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The verses below proves you wrong, Jesus Christ will be revealed in fire and destruction.

You falsely believe Jesus is revealed to start a Millennium on earth

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
You are so biased, that you are incapable of understanding the prophecies. Or properly study their context.
Luke 17:26-33, is about the Lord's Day of world Judgment, paralleled by Noah's Flood and soon to happen again; this time by fire.
2 Peter 3:1-7 also describes how the Lord will once again correct His Creation, as He did in ancient times.

The Millennium reign of Jesus, to come several years after the Day of wrath and then the Great Trib, is well proved by many scriptures. Your denial of it is an indictment against you.
 
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You are so biased, that you are incapable of understanding the prophecies. Or properly study their context.
Agreed. This person is TOTALLY CLUELESS about Bible prophecies, yet has the gall to start thread after thread on prophetic matters. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch.
 

Truth7t7

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You are so biased, that you are incapable of understanding the prophecies. Or properly study their context.
Luke 17:26-33, is about the Lord's Day of world Judgment, paralleled by Noah's Flood and soon to happen again; this time by fire.
2 Peter 3:1-7 also describes how the Lord will once again correct His Creation, as He did in ancient times.

The Millennium reign of Jesus, to come several years after the Day of wrath and then the Great Trib, is well proved by many scriptures. Your denial of it is an indictment against you.
Once again you don't believe Jesus Christ will be (Revealed) and (Destroy All) the unsaved upon earth.

You falsely have a Tribulation upon the unsaved wicked and then a Millennium following, (Wrong)

Luke 17:29-30 is nothing more than a parallel teaching of 2 Peter 3:10-13, when the earth is dissolved by fire, at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, immediately after the tribulation.

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
 

Truth7t7

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Agreed. This person is TOTALLY CLUELESS about Bible prophecies, yet has the gall to start thread after thread on prophetic matters. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch.
Glad to see that you acknowledge the River and Tree of life are seen in the Eternal kingdom as presented in Ezekiel 47:12 & Revelation 22:1-5
 

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Once again you don't believe Jesus Christ will be (Revealed) and (Destroy All) the unsaved upon earth.
Can't you read ?
2 Thessalonians 1:10 says the Lord will be revealed to His own people - after He sends fire to punish His enemies. As in Revelation 14:1.
This revealing does not refer to what will come later, at the Return in glory, seen by all the world.

The River of Life is something that is prophesied for all the end time periods: the Ezekiel 40-47 time before Jesus Returns, the Millennium period and then into Eternity.
 

Truth7t7

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The River of Life is something that is prophesied for all the end time periods: the Ezekiel 40-47 time before Jesus Returns, the Millennium period and then into Eternity.
The River And Tree Of Life Below, They Are Seen In The (Eternal Kingdom), your suggesting they will be present in a earthly kingdom, with mortal humans running around is a joke, you're only fooling (Yourself)

Add to that Blood Animal Sacrifice For Sin, As Seen In Ezekiel 43:18-25, that you also claim will be in a Millennium blessed by God, a blasphemous joker the blood shed upon Calvary.

Ezekiel Chapters 47-48 Is the (Eternal) New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, Where The River And Tree Of Life Are Present, Also Seen In Revelation 22:1-5 Below

Same River, Same Eternal Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves For Healing- Medicine

The Eternal River And Tree Of Life, In The Eternal Kingdom.

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

The Eternal River And Tree Of Life, In The Eternal Kingdom.

Revelation 22:1-5KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
 
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Concerning the tribulation, God's elect will not fear, but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. The great tribulation will not be a tribulation at all, for those that are not from God's elect, as they will go on with their lives as they would have taken the mark of the beast. Pre-tribulation rapture is a false hope teaching not founded in scripture. The rapture is at the end of all ages, at the second coming of Yeshua ha'Mashiach / Jesus the Messiah, for his elect people, he will come down from heaven, the dead will be raised, and those that have died in Christ will together with those who are alive in Christ, meet Christ in the sky. Those that will be left behind at the rapture of Yeshua ha'Mashiach's / Jesus the Messiah's second coming, will be destroyed by the fire that will consume what is left of the earth.

Matthew 24

21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

2 Thessalonians 2

8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

After the great tribulation, this is when the true rapture happens, at the return of Yeshua ha'Mashiach / Jesus the Messiah:

1 Thessalonians 4

15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
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There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation.

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ!

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved
, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God
, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Jesus only saves believers.
Pray for understanding.
You did not get this from Holy Spirit.
 
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This is God telling man that He is patient.

2 Peter
3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


2 Peter 3:9 :)
 

Truth7t7

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Jesus only saves believers.
Pray for understanding.
You did not get this from Holy Spirit.
Jesus Christ Is My Lord And Savior, I'm Filled With God The Holy Spirit Of Truth, My Name Is Written In The Lambs Book Of Life.

The False Teachings Of Millennialism Are Paving The Way For The Future Antichrist

Many Falsely Teach, A Physical Jesus Christ Is Going To Return To Jerusalem, And Take A Literal Physical Throne Of David To Start A Millennial Reign On This Earth?

This Will Be The Man Of Sin/The Beast/The Antichrist

Beware! Jesus Wont Be Found Any Place Upon This Earth

(Go Not Forth) (Believe It Not)

Matthew24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
 

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Jesus Christ Is My Lord And Savior, I'm Filled With God The Holy Spirit Of Truth, My Name Is Written In The Lambs Book Of Life.

The False Teachings Of Millennialism Are Paving The Way For The Future Antichrist

Many Falsely Teach, A Physical Jesus Christ Is Going To Return To Jerusalem, And Take A Literal Physical Throne Of David To Start A Millennial Reign On This Earth?

This Will Be The Man Of Sin/The Beast/The Antichrist

Beware! Jesus Wont Be Found Any Place Upon This Earth

(Go Not Forth) (Believe It Not)

Matthew24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Yes; there is coming an Anti-Christ man, referred to as the 'beast' in Revelation 13. We Christians must not take his mark.
This does not preclude Jesus Returning, as the angel said in Acts 1:11, and as described in Revelation 19:11-21, where He chains up the 'beast' and then reigns for the next 1000 years as King over the world.

Denial of this scenario, is a direct rejection of scripture.
 

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Yes; there is coming an Anti-Christ man, referred to as the 'beast' in Revelation 13. We Christians must not take his mark.
This does not preclude Jesus Returning, as the angel said in Acts 1:11, and as described in Revelation 19:11-21, where He chains up the 'beast' and then reigns for the next 1000 years as King over the world.

Denial of this scenario, is a direct rejection of scripture.
Your claim is (False)

Jesus Christ returns (Immediately After The Tribulation) in fire and Final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire

This physical earth is Gone at the return of Jesus Christ, now what ya gonna do with your mortal earthly Millennium, Big Smiles!

P.S. does Jesus get those chains to bind satan at the local hardware store, or does he have a blacksmith making them? :)