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wolfwint

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So you no longer have sex? Interesting, the whole book of the Song of Solomon is about sex between a married couple and no mention of having children.
This I not have said 😀 Maby you should read my post again 😉
 

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look man, just like the Father wanted something done on earth, but we saw, Jesus, doing it [Exact Mirror Imprint/Image/ESSENCE = Appearance + Actions + Reflection].
when we get a thought, like, "go buy a sandwich and give to the guy seeking help, or money, or tell that Person that God loves them.
that is God doing those things to those people, even though, it was me who drove through the drive thru and got the sandwich, took it over to the man, gave it him, while saying, God, love's You, Brother, don't forget that."

i did not do a single thing, God, wanted that done. I just am thankful to be the "one" there and listening. but God, wanted that person fed and given a message of Godly Love. God, just did it however, by it looking like i did it.



so, taking how God, Works, into matter, what is God therefore Instructing You to be doing, with this Issue, that always involves "sex" beyond this Earthly life?
How about this.....Friday night Singles. You meet someone you like. You start talking, both of you are taking the same college class. You continue talking, she just move down the street from you. She makes it clear she's interested in you. You both work days. The whole weekend, you're happy. Thinking GOD may be doing something here. You get to work on Monday morning and your boss tells you they are starting a night shift and you're starting on it next week. Everything you thought was going to happen, just got wiped out. You go to the first night of the class the both of you shared, The teacher had a sitting order for the class. You were going to be sitting right next to her. Now you have to tell her, your work hours changed and now you cannot see her. No more Friday night singles either. Tell me that's not the hand of GOD.
 
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How about this.....Friday night Singles. You meet someone you like. You start talking, both of you are taking the same college class. You continue talking, she just move down the street from you. She makes it clear she's interested in you. You both work days. The whole weekend, you're happy. Thinking GOD may be doing something here. You get to work on Monday morning and your boss tells you they are starting a night shift and you're starting on it next week. Everything you thought was going to happen, just got wiped out. You go to the first night of the class the both of you shared, The teacher had a sitting order for the class. You were going to be sitting right next to her. Now you have to tell her, your work hours changed and now you cannot see her. No more Friday night singles either. Tell me that's not the hand of GOD.
it is the Hand of God, indeed!

You see, had things fell into play by you remaining 1st shift, you would probably be committing fornication. but you work off shift, you get to know one another for real. then, on the weekends, you will feel the chemistry.

you just looked at it all wrong!

Diamonds, are not found exposed and all shiny and sparkly. they begin as coal and as the coal breaks down and crushes and compounds layer of dust upon dust for many years, this black rock now has a both precious and valuable gem inside.

you, totally missed what God was doing for you.

you would probably be still together and never knew there was a website called ChristianChat.com.
 

JohnB

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it is the Hand of God, indeed!

You see, had things fell into play by you remaining 1st shift, you would probably be committing fornication. but you work off shift, you get to know one another for real. then, on the weekends, you will feel the chemistry.

you just looked at it all wrong!

Diamonds, are not found exposed and all shiny and sparkly. they begin as coal and as the coal breaks down and crushes and compounds layer of dust upon dust for many years, this black rock now has a both precious and valuable gem inside.

you, totally missed what God was doing for you.

you would probably be still together and never knew there was a website called ChristianChat.com.
I forgot to add.....a couple of years later I was at a coffee shop near my home and Linda and her friends walked in. I noticed she had changed her hair style.....I don't know why, but it really changed her looks. I was NOT attracted to her at all. We did talk for awhile. After she had left, I sat there and thought....Thank GOD I did not connect with her. I don't know what I saw in her before.
 

oyster67

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And yet the bible speaks of other ages to come.
Not after the final state.

We are living in the Church age...
Then comes Tribulation period...
Then comes Millennial age...
Then comes Final State.
 
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I forgot to add.....a couple of years later I was at a coffee shop near my home and Linda and her friends walked in. I noticed she had changed her hair style.....I don't know why, but it really changed her looks. I was NOT attracted to her at all. We did talk for awhile. After she had left, I sat there and thought....Thank GOD I did not connect with her. I don't know what I saw in her before.
you had already made your choice by having to change shifts and you took that as a Sign She was the wrong woman for you.
of course in time, someone you move on from, your feelings move on also.

on the flip side, had you attempted to stay with Her, instead of running as fast as the wind blows. She, could shave her head bald and would still look incredible to You.
 

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If we are the Bride of Christ then why would we be having sex with other believers in Heaven or on the New Earth? Even if our new bodies allowed for it, we'd belong to Jesus as His Bride...not each other, right? 🤔
 

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you had already made your choice by having to change shifts and you took that as a Sign She was the wrong woman for you.
of course in time, someone you move on from, your feelings move on also.

on the flip side, had you attempted to stay with Her, instead of running as fast as the wind blows. She, could shave her head bald and would still look incredible to You.
I was not really given a choice. My boss made it clear, I had to change shifts, no other choice. Besides leaving. I was not about to lose my job over this.

Another story. Met a woman at church. We went out, had a nice time. I asked her to go with me to a home bible study class from the Singles at church. We got to the house, went in. The hostess knew me, but not her. My friend the hostess looked at me and than at my date. She pulled me aside and said......"John I don't know why I'm telling you this, but you shouldn't be with her" I thought to myself, "GOD I don't care , I'm choosing her" I knew this was GOD's hand. I didn't care. About 2 weeks later I went out with her again. She told me, "GOD spoke to me and told me to move to Denver" About a week later she moved. A couple of weeks later I got a postcard from her, from Denver. She said she found a church and had met someone there.
 
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You continue to blame God for what you do to yourself.
 

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so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:7

Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. Luke 20:34
hi, John. i recommend you research the number of times the Bible speaks of two ages.

this age.
the age to come.

those are your "coming ages". more of This Age. then, the Age to Come.
 

JohnB

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hi, John. i recommend you research the number of times the Bible speaks of two ages.

this age.
the age to come.

those are your "coming ages". more of This Age. then, the Age to Come.
The people of THIS age (singular)
Ages to come (more than one)...may be more than 2.
 

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How is that my fault? I had no control over what happened.
You have no control about you complaining?

God did say, many times, how He feels about complaining, murmuring, etc.
 

JohnB

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You have no control about you complaining?

God did say, many times, how He feels about complaining, murmuring, etc.
The person said what happened was my fault.......explain how it was my fault. Try and stay on topic.
 
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I was not really given a choice. My boss made it clear, I had to change shifts, no other choice. Besides leaving. I was not about to lose my job over this.

Another story. Met a woman at church. We went out, had a nice time. I asked her to go with me to a home bible study class from the Singles at church. We got to the house, went in. The hostess knew me, but not her. My friend the hostess looked at me and than at my date. She pulled me aside and said......"John I don't know why I'm telling you this, but you shouldn't be with her" I thought to myself, "GOD I don't care , I'm choosing her" I knew this was GOD's hand. I didn't care. About 2 weeks later I went out with her again. She told me, "GOD spoke to me and told me to move to Denver" About a week later she moved. A couple of weeks later I got a postcard from her, from Denver. She said she found a church and had met someone there.
you know John, you read to me like the kinds of people that make agreements and break them for stupid reasons like a good example is:

i made an agreement with another human being to [[help them]] do something. we agreed it was on Monday. Monday arrived, we met, and it down poured rain. not for just 5 minutes, but for hours that day. the person said to me, see, the World just hates me. i finally get help and it rains so bad i cannot be helped. i said, the world may indeed hate you, but, my God, is saying this rain just means today was not the right day to do this. i said, i will be back Thursday. of course, his reply, what will happen Thursday that will make my day worse? Thursday came, he got his help, all worked out in the end.

This deal, between that person and myself [[was ALWAYS]] going to happen. it did not happen on Monday, but, it did happen on Thursday.
one person, was ready to quit and say LOOK, IT's a SIGN from GOD, I am skewed. the other one, saw God doing something and knew the timing wasn't right, but, ALWAYS believed it would happen. and ultimately, the one who Believed, it did happen for that Person.



Then we have, You, John!
i got moved to another shift, God hates me...boooohoooooooooooooooooooo

at this point, You, just described, Something, that "literally Does Not Exist" in the Bible, and attributed towards God, at any fashion AT ALL.
You just defined God as hating you, or causing you to be Single or whatever EXCUSE you have in life, YOU, have found a way to {{"APPLY"}} your own FAULTY DECISION MAKING to God! You decided the Chance at this Woman was done. Nowhere, did God, decide that. You, JOHN, CHOSE that on YOUR IDEALISM. ...and then you LIE to Others and say, GOD HATES ME!


Nope, the [[ONLY ONE]] I "see" HURTING YOU, JOHN, is YOU and YOUR MENTAL DECISION MAKING CAPABILITIES!


and the Woman, who moved to Denver, She, no doubt could pick up on that.

You, John, are the type of person, that I personally meet and say, it ain't never going to ever be that persons fault for anything, even, if they get CAUGHT doing it. It's ALWAYS YOUR FAULT, John, YOU, just BLAME GOD for it!

He KNOWS what You're doing, John. God, He, ain't fooled by You!
 
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The rest of the story, as Paul Harvey used to say.... Ephesians 2:4-10

"4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. "

Man falls from the honor and grace created for, and Christ Jesus dies on a cross that, doesn't belong to Him, so that God can restore man so that God can glorify Himself and show kindness to His creation through Christ Jesus, in the future, "ages to come".
The main message loses focus when "tunnel vision" gets involved.
 

JohnB

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you know John, you read to me like the kinds of people that make agreements and break them for stupid reasons like a good example is:

i made an agreement with another human being to [[help them]] do something. we agreed it was on Monday. Monday arrived, we met, and it down poured rain. not for just 5 minutes, but for hours that day. the person said to me, see, the World just hates me. i finally get help and it rains so bad i cannot be helped. i said, the world may indeed hate you, but, my God, is saying this rain just means today was not the right day to do this. i said, i will be back Thursday. of course, his reply, what will happen Thursday that will make my day worse? Thursday came, he got his help, all worked out in the end.

This deal, between that person and myself [[was ALWAYS]] going to happen. it did not happen on Monday, but, it did happen on Thursday.
one person, was ready to quit and say LOOK, IT's a SIGN from GOD, I am skewed. the other one, saw God doing something and knew the timing wasn't right, but, ALWAYS believed it would happen. and ultimately, the one who Believed, it did happen for that Person.



Then we have, You, John!
i got moved to another shift, God hates me...boooohoooooooooooooooooooo

at this point, You, just described, Something, that "literally Does Not Exist" in the Bible, and attributed towards God, at any fashion AT ALL.
You just defined God as hating you, or causing you to be Single or whatever EXCUSE you have in life, YOU, have found a way to {{"APPLY"}} your own FAULTY DECISION MAKING to God! You decided the Chance at this Woman was done. Nowhere, did God, decide that. You, JOHN, CHOSE that on YOUR IDEALISM. ...and then you LIE to Others and say, GOD HATES ME!


Nope, the [[ONLY ONE]] I "see" HURTING YOU, JOHN, is YOU and YOUR MENTAL DECISION MAKING CAPABILITIES!


and the Woman, who moved to Denver, She, no doubt could pick up on that.

You, John, are the type of person, that I personally meet and say, it ain't never going to ever be that persons fault for anything, even, if they get CAUGHT doing it. It's ALWAYS YOUR FAULT, John, YOU, just BLAME GOD for it!

He KNOWS what You're doing, John. God, He, ain't fooled by You!
"and the Woman, who moved to Denver, She, no doubt could pick up on that ".......GOD told her to move to Denver. Nothing to do with me. You seem to miss that and once again blame ME for GOD telling HER to move.

The first one, I was given a choice, the girl or my JOB. You seem to think I should have given up my job for someone I just met.....that would have been stupid.

BOTH times you try to blame me. Interesting Christians don't seen to think things through.
 

JohnB

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you know John, you read to me like the kinds of people that make agreements and break them for stupid reasons like a good example is:

i made an agreement with another human being to [[help them]] do something. we agreed it was on Monday. Monday arrived, we met, and it down poured rain. not for just 5 minutes, but for hours that day. the person said to me, see, the World just hates me. i finally get help and it rains so bad i cannot be helped. i said, the world may indeed hate you, but, my God, is saying this rain just means today was not the right day to do this. i said, i will be back Thursday. of course, his reply, what will happen Thursday that will make my day worse? Thursday came, he got his help, all worked out in the end.

This deal, between that person and myself [[was ALWAYS]] going to happen. it did not happen on Monday, but, it did happen on Thursday.
one person, was ready to quit and say LOOK, IT's a SIGN from GOD, I am skewed. the other one, saw God doing something and knew the timing wasn't right, but, ALWAYS believed it would happen. and ultimately, the one who Believed, it did happen for that Person.



Then we have, You, John!
i got moved to another shift, God hates me...boooohoooooooooooooooooooo

at this point, You, just described, Something, that "literally Does Not Exist" in the Bible, and attributed towards God, at any fashion AT ALL.
You just defined God as hating you, or causing you to be Single or whatever EXCUSE you have in life, YOU, have found a way to {{"APPLY"}} your own FAULTY DECISION MAKING to God! You decided the Chance at this Woman was done. Nowhere, did God, decide that. You, JOHN, CHOSE that on YOUR IDEALISM. ...and then you LIE to Others and say, GOD HATES ME!


Nope, the [[ONLY ONE]] I "see" HURTING YOU, JOHN, is YOU and YOUR MENTAL DECISION MAKING CAPABILITIES!


and the Woman, who moved to Denver, She, no doubt could pick up on that.

You, John, are the type of person, that I personally meet and say, it ain't never going to ever be that persons fault for anything, even, if they get CAUGHT doing it. It's ALWAYS YOUR FAULT, John, YOU, just BLAME GOD for it!

He KNOWS what You're doing, John. God, He, ain't fooled by You!
"make agreements and break them "......where did I break any agreement. YOU change the story so you can blame me. You miss the part where the hostess told me I should not be with that woman.....a clear message from GOD which I did not want to follow. GOD than told the women to move to Denver. Follow the story.