Things to Consider Before Attempting to Correct the King James Bible

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Dino246

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Since heretical Origen put together the corrupted Hexapla, I would avoid it like plague.
Once again, you are employing a genetic fallacy. Only if you could demonstrate corruption in the Hexapla itself would your comment be valid.
 
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Actually, these apparent contradictions are throughout Scripture. I believe God put them there for the bible skeptic to believe a lie. To the honest, bible believer, these apparent contradictions are a confirmation that God's word can always be trusted.
so if you can not explain it away, Go to the bullpen and pull this out “God did this on purpose”

Got to love how low a person will go
 
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If you used this same standard of judgment when you consider other translations, it would be fine. You don't; instead you call similar apparent contradictions in other translations "lies".

You have a double standard. That is a lack of integrity. It doesn't reflect well on you personally, and makes your KJV-only position look ridiculous.
Ya have to love it. If God purposely put contradictions in the bible. Haw can we ever use the bible itself as a guide to interpretation? If we find an apparrent contradiction, it must have been God, Because my interpretation is right.. so we in fact can prety much make th ebible say anythign we want.
 
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That's fear-mongering and baseless suggestion.
Fear- mongering? I don't think so I mean do you really think the word of God isn't going to reflect the personality and character of the author?
 

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Keep this in mind Sherril.
The word of God that's the most true to God's heart is going to be just like his son The Word of God - a stumbling stone and rock of offence. :)
Claimist thou on this in thine given words forsooth and toward on being the authority of the 1611 King James bible behest of the utmost prudent representative of the Most High? (me thinks not)
Modern Translation: So, you're totally down with the 1611 KJV? (seriously?)
 
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Claimist thou on this in thine given words forsooth and toward on being the authority of the 1611 King James bible behest of the utmost prudent representative of the Most High? (me thinks not)
Modern Translation: So, you're totally down with the 1611 KJV? (seriously?)
I'm totally down with it. ;)
 
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I'm totally down with it. ;)
The Sonne of God? People say they love the 1611 King James Bible, yet have zero clue the one they love is probably the 1769. Oxford or Cambridge? They have no clue there, either.
 
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The Sonne of God? People say they love the 1611 King James Bible, yet have zero clue the one they love is probably the 1769. Oxford or Cambridge? They have no clue there, either.
Some people understand that the word of God isn't bound by language or specific words. There are MANY words that can convey the word of God. The word of God isn't the words written on paper, it's hidden in the symbols of the words written down.

Joh_6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

Only a moron would think the literal reading of that verse is "the word of God". The word of God is hidden in those words. How many different ways could that verse be written and still keep the word of God in tact.... the answer is many ways.

I'm reasonably sure that you have no idea what I'm talking about because if you did, you wouldn't be trying to steer people away from the PRESERVED SYMBOL BOOK.
 
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Some people understand that the word of God isn't bound by language or specific words. There are MANY words that can convey the word of God. The word of God isn't the words written on paper, it's hidden in the symbols of the words written down.

Joh_6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

Only a moron would think the literal reading of that verse is "the word of God". The word of God is hidden in those words. How many different ways could that verse be written and still keep the word of God in tact.... the answer is many ways.

I'm reasonably sure that you have no idea what I'm talking about because if you did, you wouldn't be trying to steer people away from the PRESERVED SYMBOL BOOK.
Preserved symbol book? What translation does that come in my friend?
 
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Preserved symbol book? What translation does that come in my friend?
Oh I don't know, maybe the one that mispelled names, changed names, made up words and translated Greek and Hebrew words one way in one place and another in another place.... all to create symbolism in English.
 
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Oh I don't know, maybe the one that mispelled names, changed names, made up words and translated Greek and Hebrew words one way in one place and another in another place.... all to create symbolism in English.
I agree that there are symbols, images, allegories that are not to be taken literally my friend. That can be said in all translations, not just the King James Bible my friend.
 
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I agree that there are symbols, images, allegories that are not to be taken literally my friend. That can be said in all translations, not just the King James Bible my friend.
Most of the arguments they use can. Its what so sad about what is going on.
 
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I agree that there are symbols, images, allegories that are not to be taken literally my friend. That can be said in all translations, not just the King James Bible my friend.
Do you agree that the words written on paper aren't the word of God, but are containers for the word of God?
 
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Do you agree that the words written on paper aren't the word of God, but are containers for the word of God?
No, I do not agree with this. I believe in verbal, plenary inspiration of scriptures. When I read the bible, I read the word of God, though a translation of the word, but the word of God nonetheless.
 
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No, I do not agree with this. I believe in verbal, plenary inspiration of scriptures. When I read the bible, I read the word of God, though a translation of the word, but the word of God nonetheless.
Yeah I don't agree with that.
 
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For clarification, are you agreeing with me?
No I'm not agreeing with you. I don't believe in believe in verbal, plenary inspiration of scriptures. I don't believe the word of God is bound by words.
 
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No I'm not agreeing with you. I don't believe in believe in verbal, plenary inspiration of scriptures. I don't believe the word of God is bound by words.
Then why do you defend the King James Bible if you do not believe in verbal plenary inspiration of the scriptures? Why read any bible if you believe this way, my friend?
 
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Please expound my friend.
I already did. :)

The written words are the holder or body for the word of God. Jesus said that his WORD is spirit... that means they aren't written down.

Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Verse 63 "the words that I speak...." he's talking about these words:

Joh 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

Is the real meaning of that verse written in that verse? No it's not there at all. Those words are the container or body of the spirit (the real meaning).