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Sorry, Scribe, but I accidently hit Post Reply, and it timed out before I knew it. That above quote is the most famous quote, where people think JESUS used the word CHURCH. But HE NEVER used the WORD CHURCH. That meaning was ADDED to the definition about 200 AD.

Here is what HE SAID, and I found a TRANSLATION that STILL USES the ORIGINAL WORD.

Matthew 16:18 (YLT)
18 `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

QUOTE:
Greek NASB Number: 1577
Greek Word:
ἐκκλησία

Transliterated Word: ekklêsia
Root:
from 1537 and 2564;

Definition: an assembly, a (religious) congregation:--

New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.
:END QUOTE.

There is the Word ekklêsia and what the word meant at the time that JESUS spoke it.

SOME people want to say JESUS REPLACED the Jewish Believers with the CHURCH, and HE DID NOT.

Mal. 3:6 tells us that GOD DOES NOT CHANGE, and they expect us to believe that GOD DOES CHANGE, and they expect us to believe THAT true believes of Judaism, are Saved the SAME WAY AS US. NOT! Here is where HE is talking to people of the last of the Old Testament Fold, telling them HE has other Sheep not of this Fold, referring to the New Testament Fold.

John 10:14-17 (HCSB)
14 “I am the good shepherd. I know My own sheep, and they know Me,
15 as the Father knows Me, and I know the Father. I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 But I have other sheep that
are not of this fold {O.T. Fold, co-equal Part of the Bride of Christ}; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock {at the Rapture}, one shepherd.
17 This is why the Father loves Me, because I am laying down My life so I may take it up again.



Now if you remember the Birthday of the N.T. FOLD, is not until the feast of Pentecost AFTER HIS ASSENTION. CHURCH was what mankind wanted to call the N.W. Fold, probably because they wanted to distance themselves from the JEWS. IT WAS NOT WHAT JESUS CALLED US, so see how much easier in the above Scripture is to understand when YOU LEAVE WHAT JESUS SAID, ALONE, and not Tamper with it.
If only those who are "in Christ" are "Abraham's seed", then what does that make those who call Christ "the great imposter" and "son of a whore"?
 

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THIRD TEMPLE - Has to be built on the site of Solomon's TEMPLE

Matthew 24:2 (ESV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

So how was that Prophecy about the TEMPLE from JESUS, FULFILLED to the LETTER? Contrary to popular belief, Solomon's Temple was not on what the JEWS today call the TEMPLE MOUNT; and there is a lot more to the Story than just the damage done by the ROMAN'S in 70 A.D.


In addition to the Roman destruction of the TEMPLE, the Macabean King Simon, ordered the real TEMPLE MOUNT in what is now called the City of David, but was then at the time of Christ, the original location of Jerusalem; TURNED INTO A ROCK QUARRY. He did that because of what the Romans did in 70 A.D., saying even the Rock base was therefore DEFILED on the original Temple Mount. Macabeans removed several meters of rock and used it to fill in the Valley to the South, making a fairly level road coming in from the South to Jerusalem. That distance from the Southern Wall of Fort Antonia to the TEMPLE is only a difference of about 400 ft. to the south of what is today the city limits of Jerusalem.



The Dome of the Rock is in the CENTER of Fort Antonia.



On the Left is the South Wall in the Southeast corner, that is the property line for Jerusalem, South of that Wall is now the City of David. The silverish domed Mosque would be the Southwest corner of Fort Antonia, in this lower Picture.



See that big tree in the Olive grove left of the silver colored steel dome, it may be the one that is the oldest Olive Trees in Israel. At least I think that is the tree they were talking about. It would be about the Northwest corner of the TEMPLE OUTER WALL. See that turn in the road going to the right towards that big tree. To the left of that intersection is good size building with what looks like a bell tower. THAT BUILDING MAY BE SITTING ON THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF SOLOMON'S TEMPLE. Somebody has to move the road, however the Palestinians have no claim to land south of that silver dome.

The Archeologists, and one of them is an Israelite, have been seeking an audiance with the Israeli Government, and the Temple Institute, and getting NO RESPONSE. They think it is because they have a very big, bitter pill to swallow, in admitting they have been praying at the WRONG WALL all these years. The Archeologists are convinced they can PROVE the Whaling Wall is actually only part of Fort Antonia.

Here is the Video the Archeologists recently put on You Tube:

NEWEST VIDEO Proving the TEMPLE WAS IN THE
CITY OF DAVID, South Just Outside JERUSALEM.
Video published June 18th, 2017

[video=youtube;kJpuw5-33y0]
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬


“And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14:17‬ ‭KJV

“And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: And the seven angels came out of the temple,....
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭15:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
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“Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8:1-2, 6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭11:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:6‬ ‭

“Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven,

and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

look up dear brother into the unseen things Gods telling us about in scripture

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬


“And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14:17‬ ‭KJV

“And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: And the seven angels came out of the temple,....
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭15:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
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“Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8:1-2, 6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭11:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:6‬ ‭

“Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven,

and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

look up dear brother into the unseen things Gods telling us about in scripture

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬
Amen
 
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Please keep reading the Bible to where Jesus disowned it and went from calling it "My house" to "YOUR house is left unto you desolate."

Wait, does that mean our Lord is now without a temple? No way...

When Peter told Jesus that He was the Christ and the Son of the living God, Jesus informed Peter that He is the Rock upon which He is building something. And what was it? "MY CHURCH", against which the gates of hell cannot prevail. The "Temple of God", according to Jesus Himself is now "MY CHURCH".
In Romans 11, Paul merely says the blind Jewish natural branches may individually be grafted back into the Vine - along with the wild ones - on condition that all become "Spiritual Jews" -- which thing you guys refuse to acknowledge, though Paul says only those who are "in Christ" are "Abraham's seed"...though Paul says the New Covenant is only with "the house of Israel" which are those "in Christ"...though Paul refers to the gentile church in Galatia as "the Israel of God", as well as other examples.

The "Temple of God" is now "My Church" and will never be some Earthly building, especially one in which Jewish priests drop a dead lamb on the altar and then turn and stick a middle finger to the heavens and say, "Here's what we think of Your so-called 'Lamb of God', Lord..."
Your house is the house of Israel. Not the temple. the house of Israel was left empty

this thread is about the news of the temple

please keep on topic
 
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God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬


“And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14:17‬ ‭KJV

“And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: And the seven angels came out of the temple,....
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭15:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
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“Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8:1-2, 6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭11:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:6‬ ‭

“Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven,

and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

look up dear brother into the unseen things Gods telling us about in scripture

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬
People, this thread is about a building, which OT prophets and Paul and even Jesus himself said would be standing when Christ returns,

not about the spiritual temple which everyone here agrees, is not made with hands,

Please keep on topic and in context with the thread
 
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Your house is the house of Israel. Not the temple. the house of Israel was left empty

this thread is about the news of the temple

please keep on topic
Please...Jesus didn't say, "Your house - EXCEPT FOR THE TEMPLE - is left unto you desolate."

"House" very much includes the temple, for the temple was the foundation upon which rested the entire nation. Jesus pronounced desolation on the entire nation, in which was located the temple mount.
 

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God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬


“And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14:17‬ ‭KJV

“And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: And the seven angels came out of the temple,....
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭15:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬
‬‬
“Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8:1-2, 6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭11:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:6‬ ‭

“Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven,

and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

look up dear brother into the unseen things Gods telling us about in scripture

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

How come so many people think this is THREAD where we can discuss Prophecy in the BIBLE ? ? ?

IT IS A NEWS THREAD where we can DISCUSS NEWS from ISRAEL, and how they relate to the JEWS building the THIRD TEMPLE.

There is SO MUCH actual NEWS from ISRAEL about the Third TEMPLE, that is what I want to discuss.

PLEASE START YOUR OWN THREAD, IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS PROPHECY.

In the BIBLE, I can show you were JEWS Build the THIRD TEMPLE, why, and where it is located. IT COULD BE on the WRONG LOCATION, or RIGHT LOCATION.

Then I CAN show you where CHRIST HIMSELF BUILDS THE FOURTH TEMPLE, Why and Where it is located.

Zechariah 14:16-18 (HCSB)
16 Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
17 Should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, rain will not fall on them.
18 And if the people of Egypt will not go up and enter, then rain will not fall on them; this will be the plague the LORD inflicts on the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Booths. REF: Mal. 3:6

DO YOU KNOW THAT THE FESTIVAL OF THE BOOTHS, REQUIRES TWO VISITS TO THE TEMPLE, IN JERUSALEM (CITY OF DAVID), WHICH IS ANCIENT JERUSALEM. YES THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE MORTALS HERE ON EARTH, and CHRIST HIMSELF WILL BUILD IT, during the MILLENIUM. BUT FIRST the THIRD TEMPLE build by the JEWS has to COME, and after the Antichrist sits on the Mercy Seat, CHRIST WILL DESTROY IT. BUT NONE OF THAT DO I WANT DISCUSSED HERE, SO PLEASE START YOUR OWN THREAD; SO PUT PROPHECY IN THE TITLE. I WANT ACTUAL NEWS STORIES FROM ISRAEL, ABOUT THE FINDING IN ARCHAEOLOGY THAT PROVE WHERE THE TEMPLE SHOULD BE LOCATED, AND WHAT THE SANHEDRIN IS UP TO ABOUT BUILDING THE TEMPLE, AND OTHER THINGS SURROUNDING BUILDING OF THE TEMPLE.
 
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How come so many people think this is THREAD where we can discuss Prophecy in the BIBLE ? ? ?

IT IS A NEWS THREAD where we can DISCUSS NEWS from ISRAEL, and how they relate to the JEWS building the THIRD TEMPLE.

There is SO MUCH actual NEWS from ISRAEL about the Third TEMPLE, that is what I want to discuss.

PLEASE START YOUR OWN THREAD, IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS PROPHECY.

In the BIBLE, I can show you were JEWS Build the THIRD TEMPLE, why, and where it is located. IT COULD BE on the WRONG LOCATION, or RIGHT LOCATION.

Then I CAN show you where CHRIST HIMSELF BUILDS THE FOURTH TEMPLE, Why and Where it is located.

Zechariah 14:16-18 (HCSB)
16 Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
17 Should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, rain will not fall on them.
18 And if the people of Egypt will not go up and enter, then rain will not fall on them; this will be the plague the LORD inflicts on the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Booths. REF: Mal. 3:6

DO YOU KNOW THAT THE FESTIVAL OF THE BOOTHS, REQUIRES TWO VISITS TO THE TEMPLE, IN JERUSALEM (CITY OF DAVID), WHICH IS ANCIENT JERUSALEM. YES THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE MORTALS HERE ON EARTH, and CHRIST HIMSELF WILL BUILD IT, during the MILLENIUM. BUT FIRST the THIRD TEMPLE build by the JEWS has to COME, and after the Antichrist sits on the Mercy Seat, CHRIST WILL DESTROY IT. BUT NONE OF THAT DO I WANT DISCUSSED HERE, SO PLEASE START YOUR OWN THREAD; SO PUT PROPHECY IN THE TITLE. I WANT ACTUAL NEWS STORIES FROM ISRAEL, ABOUT THE FINDING IN ARCHAEOLOGY THAT PROVE WHERE THE TEMPLE SHOULD BE LOCATED, AND WHAT THE SANHEDRIN IS UP TO ABOUT BUILDING THE TEMPLE, AND OTHER THINGS SURROUNDING BUILDING OF THE TEMPLE.
Is not this thread located in "Bible Discussion Forum" which makes it fair game for discussion concerning the ludicrous Jesuit Futurist idea that a future rebuilt temple in Jerusalem is of prophetic significance?
 
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Is not this thread located in "Bible Discussion Forum" which makes it fair game for discussion concerning the ludicrous Jesuit Futurist idea that a future rebuilt temple in Jerusalem is of prophetic significance?
In keeping with the OP's repeated requests to stay on topic in this thread, there are those of us that respect this, and also believe there will be a temple built. He has also repeatedly asked that those who wish to derail from the topic to start their own thread, and leave this thread to topic. The topic is Third Temple News...your beliefs are not 'news'. Due to these repeated requests from the OP, it does NOT make it fair game to disrupt. Please respect his wishes, and start your own thread. Thank you all.
 
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In keeping with the OP's repeated requests to stay on topic in this thread, there are those of us that respect this, and also believe there will be a temple built. He has also repeatedly asked that those who wish to derail from the topic to start their own thread, and leave this thread to topic. The topic is Third Temple News...your beliefs are not 'news'. Due to these repeated requests from the OP, it does NOT make it fair game to disrupt. Please respect his wishes, and start your own thread. Thank you all.
In the Christian spirit of love and with the directive to "expose the unfruitful works of darkness", some of us believe those who think a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem is of prophetic significance operate under an extremely dangerous satanic 16th century Jesuit error -- which was previously unknown to the world until the Protestant Reformation identified the Antichrist from Scripture as the Papacy, and the Papacy was forced to respond with false Jesuit interpretations of Bible prophecy whereby the accusations of the Protestant Reformers might be deflected to the past (Jesuit priest Alcazar's "Jesuit Preterism"), to the future (Jesuit priest Ribera's "Jesuit Futurism" with its rebuilt Jerusalem temple), anywhere but at them.

Adherents of these ideas, we believe, are setting themselves up for a deception so sinister that if it were possible, the very elect would be deceived...and you are essentially asking witnesses to a drowning to stand there with life preservers and do nothing.

The "Christian News Forum" is the appropriate place for the type of "echo chamber" desired for discussing "Christ's rebuilt temple", but since it is in "Bible Discussion Forum" there are others who might be deceived by these ideas as "Biblical" and need to hear the other side of the story.

It would be best to have this thread moved to the "Christian News Forum". Thank you and God bless.
 

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People, this thread is about a building, which OT prophets and Paul and even Jesus himself said would be standing when Christ returns,

not about the spiritual temple which everyone here agrees, is not made with hands,

Please keep on topic and in context with the thread
there’s going to be a building built on this earth when Jesus returns ? I must not have ever read that part , I thought there would be no need for a temple anymore after the new Jerusalem came down from heaven

could you suggest any verses I should look at to catch up to the third building he’s making and eill
Be standing at christs return ? Honestly asking you if you could suggest a study to shown me this

I’m thinking along the lines of all those scripture that there is a temple in heaven where Christ is actually seated on the throne that will actually come down from heaven when the veil is lifted and the earth and all is destroyed .

But when it comes down from heaven the new Jerusalem where the temple is , there will no longer be a temple

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

“And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1, 22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I guess the point of leaving those scriptures in this thread is that I don’t think there is a third temple that is going to be made by man

God is in his temple in heaven Christ is the temple of God and is seated on the throne in his kingdom .

It seems from your response that you don’t think heaven actually exists can o ask what you meant by “ the spiritual temple “ are you saying the spiritual thkngs aren’t real and the earthly things are ?

it’s quite opposite the things that were on earth in the ot , were a pattern of things that have always been in heaven.

The true things of God . The man made tabernacle , temple , even all the details of the candlesticks in the inner room , the holiest of all those things are a pattern of the true things in heaven

I might be wrong but it seems you are looking at the earthly things and not counting it as the third aspect of God

Father son and Holy Spirit

There were two temples on earth Gods glory dwelt in the first , he dwelt in the second when Christ entered into it the third temple is the one in the heavens where Christ is seated in the end there will be no need for a temple because of this

“And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Ultimately as you see there’s not going to be a need for a temple because it is absolutely about the spiritual things

“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God is a spirit . No longer would he be worshipped at Jerusalem nor the Temple Mount

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:21, 23-24‬ ‭

they needed a man made temple for avid to dwell in so they could have a relationship of sorts with him , the gospel changed it all . Now we have the Holy Ghost present with us so we can have a real connection and worship God in spirit and truth by our lives reflecting his spirit within us

the whole idea of God hidden inside of a temples inner most room , is Old Testament . The understanding God has stepped out into the open dormall
Mankind to know and fellowship with in order to redeem us from death is New Testament

the main message of the gospel of believes is you receive Gods holy spirit that is one with father and son to live inside of you and lead you as a shepherd through life by belief in his word

Jerusalem is his city but it’s not the one on earth it’s on heaven where Christ is until he returns and destroys all the world including the land of Israel then Jerusalem will come from heaven to earth and all things will be as we are told in revelation 21
 
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there’s going to be a building built on this earth when Jesus returns ? I must not have ever read that part , I thought there would be no need for a temple anymore after the new Jerusalem came down from heaven

could you suggest any verses I should look at to catch up to the third building he’s making and eill
Be standing at christs return ? Honestly asking you if you could suggest a study to shown me this

I’m thinking along the lines of all those scripture that there is a temple in heaven where Christ is actually seated on the throne that will actually come down from heaven when the veil is lifted and the earth and all is destroyed .

But when it comes down from heaven the new Jerusalem where the temple is , there will no longer be a temple

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

“And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1, 22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I guess the point of leaving those scriptures in this thread is that I don’t think there is a third temple that is going to be made by man

God is in his temple in heaven Christ is the temple of God and is seated on the throne in his kingdom .

It seems from your response that you don’t think heaven actually exists can o ask what you meant by “ the spiritual temple “ are you saying the spiritual thkngs aren’t real and the earthly things are ?

it’s quite opposite the things that were on earth in the ot , were a pattern of things that have always been in heaven.

The true things of God . The man made tabernacle , temple , even all the details of the candlesticks in the inner room , the holiest of all those things are a pattern of the true things in heaven

I might be wrong but it seems you are looking at the earthly things and not counting it as the third aspect of God

Father son and Holy Spirit

There were two temples on earth Gods glory dwelt in the first , he dwelt in the second when Christ entered into it the third temple is the one in the heavens where Christ is seated in the end there will be no need for a temple because of this

“And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Ultimately as you see there’s not going to be a need for a temple because it is absolutely about the spiritual things

“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God is a spirit . No longer would he be worshipped at Jerusalem nor the Temple Mount

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:21, 23-24‬ ‭

they needed a man made temple for avid to dwell in so they could have a relationship of sorts with him , the gospel changed it all . Now we have the Holy Ghost present with us so we can have a real connection and worship God in spirit and truth by our lives reflecting his spirit within us

the whole idea of God hidden inside of a temples inner most room , is Old Testament . The understanding God has stepped out into the open dormall
Mankind to know and fellowship with in order to redeem us from death is New Testament

the main message of the gospel of believes is you receive Gods holy spirit that is one with father and son to live inside of you and lead you as a shepherd through life by belief in his word

Jerusalem is his city but it’s not the one on earth it’s on heaven where Christ is until he returns and destroys all the world including the land of Israel then Jerusalem will come from heaven to earth and all things will be as we are told in revelation 21
Your about 1000 years to late, that is probably why you can’t see
 

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there’s going to be a building built on this earth when Jesus returns ? I must not have ever read that part , I thought there would be no need for a temple anymore after the new Jerusalem came down from heaven

could you suggest any verses I should look at to catch up to the third building he’s making and eill
Be standing at christs return ? Honestly asking you if you could suggest a study to shown me this

I’m thinking along the lines of all those scripture that there is a temple in heaven where Christ is actually seated on the throne that will actually come down from heaven when the veil is lifted and the earth and all is destroyed .

But when it comes down from heaven the new Jerusalem where the temple is , there will no longer be a temple

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

“And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1, 22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I guess the point of leaving those scriptures in this thread is that I don’t think there is a third temple that is going to be made by man

God is in his temple in heaven Christ is the temple of God and is seated on the throne in his kingdom .

It seems from your response that you don’t think heaven actually exists can o ask what you meant by “ the spiritual temple “ are you saying the spiritual thkngs aren’t real and the earthly things are ?

it’s quite opposite the things that were on earth in the ot , were a pattern of things that have always been in heaven.

The true things of God . The man made tabernacle , temple , even all the details of the candlesticks in the inner room , the holiest of all those things are a pattern of the true things in heaven

I might be wrong but it seems you are looking at the earthly things and not counting it as the third aspect of God

Father son and Holy Spirit

There were two temples on earth Gods glory dwelt in the first , he dwelt in the second when Christ entered into it the third temple is the one in the heavens where Christ is seated in the end there will be no need for a temple because of this

“And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Ultimately as you see there’s not going to be a need for a temple because it is absolutely about the spiritual things

“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God is a spirit . No longer would he be worshipped at Jerusalem nor the Temple Mount

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:21, 23-24‬ ‭

they needed a man made temple for avid to dwell in so they could have a relationship of sorts with him , the gospel changed it all . Now we have the Holy Ghost present with us so we can have a real connection and worship God in spirit and truth by our lives reflecting his spirit within us

the whole idea of God hidden inside of a temples inner most room , is Old Testament . The understanding God has stepped out into the open dormall
Mankind to know and fellowship with in order to redeem us from death is New Testament

the main message of the gospel of believes is you receive Gods holy spirit that is one with father and son to live inside of you and lead you as a shepherd through life by belief in his word

Jerusalem is his city but it’s not the one on earth it’s on heaven where Christ is until he returns and destroys all the world including the land of Israel then Jerusalem will come from heaven to earth and all things will be as we are told in revelation 21

You are trying to HIGHJACK this Thread into a debate about PROPHECY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PROPHECY, start your own Thread. THIS IS A NEWS from ISRAEL THREAD.
 

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You are trying to HIGHJACK this Thread into a debate about PROPHECY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PROPHECY, start your own Thread. THIS IS A NEWS from ISRAEL THREAD.
no actually I’m offering scripture about Gods true temple in heaven and scripture explaining where his temple is , in my view , and have asked someone to suggest the scripture that will help me understand about the temple you all are talking about

I thought a discussion was two points of view and of course since it’s a biblical forum scripture would be welcome .

but since this is the second time someone has an issue with me posting in this thread , I apologize to you and will drop any further posts in this thread so you can figure out where the temple is going to be built before christs return

I’ll also look into a study of my own to see if there’s any validity to the thought and maybe sometime in the future there will be a different thread about the subject and I’ll know more about the third man made temple

inquiry and scripture was my intent along with what I was thinking the scripture was saying

apologies and God bless a
 
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The moderators have had ample opportunity to move this thread, and evidently have opted not to. Your view(s) and concern(s) are duly noted, and am open to discussion of said views and concerns in another forum/thread. Am not meaning to come across as unbrotherly by no means. Am just respecting the OP's wishes that this thread not be derailed, and to stay on topic...the topic being Third Temple News. He has repeatedly stressed that those who would take away from the topic to kindly start another thread dealing with anything other than Third Temple News.
Thank you, and God bless!
 
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there’s going to be a building built on this earth when Jesus returns ? I must not have ever read that part , I thought there would be no need for a temple anymore after the new Jerusalem came down from heaven

could you suggest any verses I should look at to catch up to the third building he’s making and eill
Be standing at christs return ? Honestly asking you if you could suggest a study to shown me this

I’m thinking along the lines of all those scripture that there is a temple in heaven where Christ is actually seated on the throne that will actually come down from heaven when the veil is lifted and the earth and all is destroyed .

But when it comes down from heaven the new Jerusalem where the temple is , there will no longer be a temple

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

“And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1, 22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I guess the point of leaving those scriptures in this thread is that I don’t think there is a third temple that is going to be made by man

God is in his temple in heaven Christ is the temple of God and is seated on the throne in his kingdom .

It seems from your response that you don’t think heaven actually exists can o ask what you meant by “ the spiritual temple “ are you saying the spiritual thkngs aren’t real and the earthly things are ?

it’s quite opposite the things that were on earth in the ot , were a pattern of things that have always been in heaven.

The true things of God . The man made tabernacle , temple , even all the details of the candlesticks in the inner room , the holiest of all those things are a pattern of the true things in heaven

I might be wrong but it seems you are looking at the earthly things and not counting it as the third aspect of God

Father son and Holy Spirit

There were two temples on earth Gods glory dwelt in the first , he dwelt in the second when Christ entered into it the third temple is the one in the heavens where Christ is seated in the end there will be no need for a temple because of this

“And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Ultimately as you see there’s not going to be a need for a temple because it is absolutely about the spiritual things

“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God is a spirit . No longer would he be worshipped at Jerusalem nor the Temple Mount

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:21, 23-24‬ ‭

they needed a man made temple for avid to dwell in so they could have a relationship of sorts with him , the gospel changed it all . Now we have the Holy Ghost present with us so we can have a real connection and worship God in spirit and truth by our lives reflecting his spirit within us

the whole idea of God hidden inside of a temples inner most room , is Old Testament . The understanding God has stepped out into the open dormall
Mankind to know and fellowship with in order to redeem us from death is New Testament

the main message of the gospel of believes is you receive Gods holy spirit that is one with father and son to live inside of you and lead you as a shepherd through life by belief in his word

Jerusalem is his city but it’s not the one on earth it’s on heaven where Christ is until he returns and destroys all the world including the land of Israel then Jerusalem will come from heaven to earth and all things will be as we are told in revelation 21
The OT verses used to support a future rebuilt temple in our day are always verses which already have their fulfillment in the post-Babylonian captivity temple built by Zerubbabel, but since that's all they've got, they have no choice but to appeal to them for Dispensationalist support anyway.

Everyone knows that when New Jerusalem comes down, the Heavenly Temple therein, in which our High Priest Jesus now officiates, will be the next literal, structural "Temple of God" on Earth, not some blasphemous monument to colossal theological error that people in the Middle East are discussing.
 
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The moderators have had ample opportunity to move this thread, and evidently have opted not to. Your view(s) and concern(s) are duly noted, and am open to discussion of said views and concerns in another forum/thread. Am not meaning to come across as unbrotherly by no means. Am just respecting the OP's wishes that this thread not be derailed, and to stay on topic...the topic being Third Temple News. He has repeatedly stressed that those who would take away from the topic to kindly start another thread dealing with anything other than Third Temple News.
Thank you, and God bless!
Sadly those who continue to disrespect the ops request just show the truth that is in them and their hardness of heart, they do not understand that even if they are right, their refusal to humble themselves will turn people from them.
 
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Sadly those who continue to disrespect the ops request just show the truth that is in them and their hardness of heart, they do not understand that even if they are right, their refusal to humble themselves will turn people from them.
Not one verse in Scripture calls for the establishment of a "doctrinal safe space" - to the contrary, it says we are to "earnestly contend for the faith once deliverd to the saints."
 

VCO

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If only those who are "in Christ" are "Abraham's seed", then what does that make those who call Christ "the great imposter" and "son of a whore"?
A spreading more lies here now? Do not make me regret that I let you off my Permanent IGNORE LIST.
 

VCO

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no actually I’m offering scripture about Gods true temple in heaven and scripture explaining where his temple is , in my view , and have asked someone to suggest the scripture that will help me understand about the temple you all are talking about

I thought a discussion was two points of view and of course since it’s a biblical forum scripture would be welcome .

but since this is the second time someone has an issue with me posting in this thread , I apologize to you and will drop any further posts in this thread so you can figure out where the temple is going to be built before christs return

I’ll also look into a study of my own to see if there’s any validity to the thought and maybe sometime in the future there will be a different thread about the subject and I’ll know more about the third man made temple

inquiry and scripture was my intent along with what I was thinking the scripture was saying

apologies and God bless a

The Millennial TEMPLE will be personally built by HIM, but that is the FOURTH TEMPLE.