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trofimus

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Well, are you ready to be driven into the wilderness by the man of sin where you will spent the last 1260 days of the time if tribulation?
Maybe you will be surprised but evil happens all the time, ever heard of the WWII?

Do not think that the survival is the main point of our lifes.
 

VCO

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The point is that few of those in Palestine are natural Israelites, not that there are none in the world.

As for Israel existing, WE ARE ISRAEL.

No, you do not get it, do you? GOD DOES NOT consider NON-Israelites part of what HE means by ISRAEL.

NOR does He consider bloodline Israelites without the Faith of Abraham to be part of what He means by ISRAEL.

Only those ISRAELITES WITH THE UNQUESTIONING FAITH OF ABRAHAM does GOD consider to be ISRAEL.


In other words, THESE VERSES CERTAINLY APPLIES TO ISRAEL AS WELL AS THE CHURCH:

Matthew 7:13-14 (HCSB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] “Enter through the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the road is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who go through it.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] How narrow is the gate and difficult the road that leads to life, and few find it.


So how come you QUESTION EVERYTHING?


Could it be because you too DO NOT HAVE THE FAITH OF ABRAHAM?
 

VCO

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The Jewish temple was not eternal.

Also, do you realize that Jesus quoted Scripture? The Scripture is from the past, so "will be" is a past for us. It is not a present saying.
GEE, then according to you, JESUS GOD MAD AND TOOK A WHIP TO THEM FOR NO REASON.
 

trofimus

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GEE, then according to you, JESUS GOD MAD AND TOOK A WHIP TO THEM FOR NO REASON.
What? Please, consider the context.

There was a prophecy in the OT that the temple will be called the house of God. This prophecy should be valid for the present time of Jesus and was not. Thats why Jesus was angry about it.

This prophecy is not about our present time.

Please, consider times a little. You are just picking what you like like strawberris wherever you find them in the Bible without any historical context.
You must realize that the Bible has been written for about 1500 years, not all prophecies are about 2017 AD.
 

VCO

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What? Please, consider the context.

There was a prophecy in the OT that the temple will be called the house of God. This prophecy should be valid for the present time of Jesus and was not. Thats why Jesus was angry about it.

This prophecy is not about our present time.

Please, consider times a little. You are just picking what you like like strawberris wherever you find them in the Bible without any historical context.
You must realize that the Bible has been written for about 1500 years, not all prophecies are about 2017 AD.

Please consider that Jesus got very angry, very fast, because the TEMPLE was being used by Religious Con-Artists instead of being used as a HOUSE OF PRAYER. THAT IS THE PRIMARY PURPOSE FOR A TEMPLE HERE ON EARTH.


Matthew 5:18 (ASV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished.


THUS I am 100% in favor of Building the THIRD TEMPLE, and if the LORD does not call born again believers out to go to the Wedding of the Lamb, before the TEMPLE IS FINISHED, I WILL plan a vacation specifically to PRAY in the Court of the Gentiles.
 
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Maybe you will be surprised but evil happens all the time, ever heard of the WWII?

Do not think that the survival is the main point of our lifes.
The main point of our life is to glorify our Lord and Savior.

Check post #361. Do you agree or disagree?
 

valiant

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No, you do not get it, do you? GOD DOES NOT consider NON-Israelites part of what HE means by ISRAEL.
Rom 11. Believing Gentiles were grafted into Israel.

Eph 2. Believing Jew and Gentiles are made near in the blood of Christ. They are made one. Believing Gentiles become fellow-citizens with the saints and of the household of God.

1 Peter 2 you (Jews and Gentiles) are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for Gods own possession (compare Exod 19.6.)

Gal 6.16 the Israel of God
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NOR does He consider bloodline Israelites without the Faith of Abraham to be part of what He means by ISRAEL.
That is true,

Only those ISRAELITES WITH THE UNQUESTIONING FAITH OF ABRAHAM does GOD consider to be ISRAEL.
where does it say that? What it says is 'If you are Christ's then you are Abraham's seed, and HEIRS according to the promise.

In other words, THESE VERSES CERTAINLY APPLIES TO ISRAEL AS WELL AS THE CHURCH:

Matthew 7:13-14 (HCSB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] “Enter through the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the road is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who go through it.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] How narrow is the gate and difficult the road that leads to life, and few find it.
That is spoken to all men, both Jew and Gentile.

So how come you QUESTION EVERYTHING?
I follow the Scriptures.

Could it be because you too DO NOT HAVE THE FAITH OF ABRAHAM?
LOL I have his faith, have you?
 

VCO

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Rom 11. Believing Gentiles were grafted into Israel.

Eph 2. Believing Jew and Gentiles are made near in the blood of Christ. They are made one. Believing Gentiles become fellow-citizens with the saints and of the household of God.

1 Peter 2 you (Jews and Gentiles) are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for Gods own possession (compare Exod 19.6.)

Gal 6.16 the Israel of God
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That is true,



where does it say that? What it says is 'If you are Christ's then you are Abraham's seed, and HEIRS according to the promise.



That is spoken to all men, both Jew and Gentile.



I follow the Scriptures.



LOL I have his faith, have you?



GOOD GRIEF. Have you NEVER been where it is common pratice to graft English Walnut Branches into the Black Walnut Trunks? They do that because the Black Walnuts have deeper roots that are more bug and desease resistant.

BUT THOSE ENGLISH WALNUT BRANCHES NEVER BECOME BLACK WALNUT PRODUCING BRANCHES.



We do not get grafted into ISRAEL, but rather in the Family of GOD, or as the REAL Interpretaion of the analogy in Rom. 11 is calling it, "into GOD's Olive Tree" the SOURCE OF ETERNAL LIFE. The source of LIFE is NOT the original Branches but in the TRUNK AND ROOTS, GOD ALMIGHTY. OUR CITIZENSHIP IS NOT IN ISRAEL, BUT IN HEAVEN.

NOTHING IN ROMANS CHAPTER 11 IS EVEN REMOTELY HINTING THAT WE GENTILES BECOME PART OF ISRAEL.


Paul goes on to say that the rejection of the Jews was partial, was passing, and had a purpose. A remnant continued to believe, the rejection wouldn’t last forever, and some good would actually come from it.


Israel’s transgression allowed the gospel to be delivered to the Gentiles. And closely related to that fact, a sense of jealousy developed among the people of Israel (11:11-12). When the Jewish people saw God’s acceptance of the Gentiles, many would repent and come to God as well. Indeed, Paul’s use of the words “fullness” (11:12 NIV) and “acceptance” (11:15 NIV) indicate a positive future for Israel.


In the meantime, the Gentiles have no right to gloat. Their gospel has Jewish roots and a Jewish Savior. Thanks to God’s grace, the Gentiles are grafted into God’s olive tree (11:17-18), and they are completely supported by the root.


The Jewish nation should not see the inclusion of the Gentiles as a threat. Just the opposite. If God could make a wild branch become productive, it would be no trouble at all for Him to restore some of the natural branches. All the Jews needed to do was show the same degree of repentance and faith as the Gentiles, and they would quickly be reattached to their source of growth and productivity (11:22-24). Ultimately, the restoration of a Jewish person was an easier process than the call of a Gentile to faith, because the knowledgeable Jew understood the need for forgiveness.

Layman's Bible Commentary - Layman's Bible Commentary – Volume 10: Acts thru Corinthians.

And because many Gentile believers in the early church had been raised in the midst of pagan anti-Semitism, it was not difficult for Satan to tempt them to continued prejudice against Jews because of Israel's rejection and crucifixion of her own Messiah and Savior.


Some modern "Christian" cults are based on the notion of British Israelism. They hold the totally unscriptural and unhistorical notion that Anglo-Saxons comprise the ten so-called lost tribes of Israel—a name to which they believe Jews have long lost all claim, because God eternally rejected and condemned them for rejecting and putting Jesus Christ to death. Anti-Semitism is the very underpinning of such cults.


Less extreme prejudice, often hidden and usually denied, is also reflected in some Christian churches and organizations. It is not impossible even for true believers to become infected with that age-old spiritual disease which the Lord so intensely detests.

MacArthur New Testament Commentary, The - MacArthur New Testament Commentary – Romans 9-16.
 
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Bladerunner

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In 2001, Dr. Ariella Oppenheim, a biologist at Hebrew University, published the first extensive study of DNA and the origin of the Jews. Her research found that virtually all the Jews came from Khazar blood. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1274378/

She also confirmed that the Palestinians — the very people whom the Jews have been persecuting since 1948 — had more Israelite blood than did the Jews.
Dr. Eran Elhaik and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, proved through DNA science today’s Jews are not related to Abraham, but they descended from the Khazars.
She also confirmed that the Palestinians — the very people whom the Jews have been persecuting since 1948 — had more Israelite blood than did the Jews.

Does that make the Palestinians any less an Edomite because they have mingled with the Jews....

An just how did they prove today's Jews are not related to Abraham.......I guess for a price (grant money) they would tell you and me we did not come from ADAM.

IF by chance they had a sample of Abrahamic DNA (which I doubt) and could tell down to a minute decimal that His DNA was not in a particular person, then that person could not be considered Jewish (BY BIRTH).

You see there are people who claim to be Jewish but are only Jewish in the sense that they have converted to the Jewish religion. Much like a person living in California considers themselves Californians even if they were born in Alabama.

The bottom line there are all kinds of ways out there to deny the Jewish People their heritage...It is call Anti-Semitism and it is growing big time in today's society.




 

trofimus

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BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN ANSWERING WITH WHAT GOD ACTUALLY SAYS, instead of my opinions.
God also actually said the opposite of what you have quoted, on other places.

So I ask you why do you pick up just what you like and ignore the rest? Both is from God.
 

VCO

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God also actually said the opposite of what you have quoted, on other places.

So I ask you why do you pick up just what you like and ignore the rest? Both is from God.

GOD does NOT contradict HIMSELF. Every time you THINK you found a contradiction, you personally have mis-interpreted one or both verses.

THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS IN MY BIBLES. The Mormons use the KJV when their Missionaries came to my door, and they too tried to tell me the Bible was full of contradictions.
 
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trofimus

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GOD does NOT contradict HIMSELF. Every time you THINK you found a contradiction, you personally have mis-interpreted one or both verses.

THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS IN MY BIBLES. The Mormons use the KJV when their Missionaries came to my door, and they too tried to tell me the Bible was full of contradictions.
Still you did not respond why you pick up only verses for Israel and not against it. Because the other verses would contradict the ones you posted? Or why?
 

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Lol. You are arguing with the great deception itself Trofimus.
The deception will not go away, and those who sup fom her table are fat with her lies.
 
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heartofdavid

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Lol. You are arguing with the great deception itself Trofimus.
The deception will not go away, and those who sup fom her table are fat with her lies.
POT<>KETTLE BIG TIME

Get off the slander mode

Try looking in a mirror