THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[PlainWord]

I believe it's the NWO project bluebeam that is staging the dispensational end times scenario where the temple gets rebuilt and the AC takes power and then comes the faked second coming of Christ..... These poor folk are going to fall for this deception.

I often wonder what Satan plans to do with this massive deception of Christians on such a large scale. What does he do, round them all up and kill them? Well, at least they still get to go to heaven..

 

[PlainWord]

In Revelation 7:9 it says that a multitude of people,nations,tongues ect. would come out of the tribulation. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 7&version=KJV

Actually it says, "great tribulation." I believe this was the same great tribulation Jesus spoke of in the Olivet, which was the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans. History tells us that Jerusalem's population had swollen to 1.2 million from its normal 250,000. This was because Jews from all over the known world returned for Passover. Thus, they were from "all (habitable) nations, and tribes, and peoples, and tongues." Those living in the Roman Empire viewed themselves as the "known or habitable world" (Rom 10:18) as if the rest of the world was inferior. We know from Acts 2 that devout Jews would return from all nations speaking all kinds of different languages. Rev 7:16 tells us they were hungry and hot as were those inside the siege.

Therefore I believe these of Rev 7, the great multitude, came to accept their Messiah through their miseries, perhaps recalling His many teachings on their near future fate which was now taking place. They died inside Jerusalem under horrific conditions because they came to Christ too late to be spared the horrors of the great tribulation and thus did not flee as the Church fled to Pella prior to the siege.

Alternatively, this great tribulation could have been the suffering imposed by Nero and the Jewish religious order throughout the Roman Empire where a great number of Christians were killed and burned out of their homes in Rome which also had a diverse population from all over the Roman Empire. Either explanation fits well.

 

[PlainWord]

So if the Jews rebelled against Rome and Caesar, (1st,2nd,3rd revolt), then it wouldn't make any sense to think or say that they worshiped the image of Rome or Caesar so who in this hypothesis is it that received the mark,worshiped it's image and was destroyed in ad70 at the Lords coming?

Not all Jews!! The Jewish religious order opposed the War started by the zealots. It was all about money and power for them which they derived from their unholy alliance with Rome. They worshiped and declared Caesar as their one and only true king as we see here.

John 19: 12, 15 From this [time] was Pilate seeking to release him, and the Jews were crying out, saying, `If this one thou mayest release, thou art not a friend of Caesar; every one making himself a king, doth speak against Caesar.' ...and they cried out, `Take away, take away, crucify him;' Pilate saith to them, `Your king shall I crucify?' the chief priests answered, `We have no king except Caesar. (YLT)

Jesus was crucified more over power and money than any charge of blasphemy. Christ was betrayed over money and He was killed over money. If Christ were ever made "King of the Jews" He would have stripped these wicked priests of their wealth and power just as He did when He turned over the tables of the money changers. Jerusalem derived its wealth from its temple tax which was 10% of all Jewish income, not just in Israel but from Jews all over the world. Both Tacitus and Titus declared that Jerusalem was the richest city in the world, superior to even Rome's wealth. Tacitus writes, “Their capital is Jerusalem. Here stood their Temple with its boundless riches.” Because of this incredible amount of money funneling into Jerusalem through the Temple, first-century Jerusalem was the wealthiest city in the Roman world per capita. Before the Romans went on a killing spree in the city, Caesar Titus is recorded to have said the following implying the fact that Jerusalem was the richest city in the Roman Empire: “We [the Romans] have given you leave to gather up that tribute which is paid to God . . . till at length you became richer than we ourselves[.]” The religious order "worshiped" money over God.

Here one can see that it was the worship of money (which not ironically contained the deified image of Caesar, the beast) that ultimately caused Jesus and His followers to be persecuted and killed by the Jewish civil and religious authorities. This is why the Bible says “[T]he love of money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10).” It was greed that was Israel’s ultimate spiritual sin. And it was this greed that motivated these unjust murders. James 2:6, 5:1-6 and Luke 16:19-31 echo this link. After admonishing the church for showing favoritism to rich parishioners, James says the following in James 2:6: “Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court?” Furthermore, after crying “woe” to those who have stored up wealth in the last days in James 5:1-6, James says the following in the next verse: “You [the rich] have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you (James 5:6).” The “innocent one” murdered by the rich was Jesus. James could not be more explicit that it was the rich who were persecuting the church. If the rich were the enemies of the saints because they were the ones actively persecuting Jesus and His people, is it any wonder that the tangible aspect of the mark of the beast is money? The mark is both spiritual and tangible.

Roman coins from the time of Augustus to Domitian contained the graven image of Caesar often with claim of deity on the reverse side of the coin. All money and deeds of purchase were marked with Caesar’s name and/or image hence no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark of the beast (Roman Money). We can't buy or sell today without money either. But, per the Law of Moses, Jews were forbidden to possess money bearing the graven image of a false god. These coins would be considered little idols. Thus the Jews were allowed to mint their own currency without the image of Caesar. Handling Roman money alone was not a crime, but the love or worship of such money was. Most Jews of the first century living in Israel used Jewish coins. However, we know that Roman money was also in circulation. We know from Mat 22:15-21 that the Pharisees used Roman currency when they produced a Roman coin for Jesus. These same Pharisees not only had the mark spiritual, they possessed it literally.

The Jewish religious order of the day swore their allegiance to Caesar as I demonstrated. They trusted in Rome to protect them in exchange for keeping the Jews in line. The zealots threatened their way of life and thus they opposed the war with Rome. When Titus broke through all the priests left alive were brought before him and he ordered them all to be killed.

It would take me several pages to fully explain this so let this sink in for now....

 

[KJV1611]

You see that the devil mimics the events of the second coming and that they think they are helping God when they are deceived and helping the devil instead,,but you don't speak of the rest. Ask yourself whats next and then you'll throw your hands on your face if you see it.

No this is not a mimicing of what God does, it is a great deception that is contrary to what God does. There is no AC, no 7 tribulation, no peace treaty with Israel, the second coming already happened and there is no 3rd coming in the bible.

If I see that stuff happen, no way I'm going to be deceived by it.... These guys are EXPERT deceivers, just look at CV19 or BLM, or "climate change". People who are not grounded FIRMLY in the world of God will buy this deception hook line and sinker. I'm just trying to warn the futurist that they are being lied to and are under a great deception and are promulgating the lie and deception to others.

 

[KJV1611]

I often wonder what Satan plans to do with this massive deception of Christians on such a large scale. What does he do, round them all up and kill them? Well, at least they still get to go to heaven..

The plan of the Elite is to upload everyone's consciousness into the cloud where they will spend eternity. Will God allow that, I don't know. Maybe that is what hell is, eternal separation from God. All I know is, the futurists are setting people up to be deceived.

 

[iamsoandso]

Actually it says, "great tribulation." I believe this was the same great tribulation Jesus spoke of in the Olivet, which was the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans. History tells us that Jerusalem's population had swollen to 1.2 million from its normal 250,000. This was because Jews from all over the known world returned for Passover. Thus, they were from "all (habitable) nations, and tribes, and peoples, and tongues." Those living in the Roman Empire viewed themselves as the "known or habitable world" (Rom 10:18) as if the rest of the world was inferior. We know from Acts 2 that devout Jews would return from all nations speaking all kinds of different languages. Rev 7:16 tells us they were hungry and hot as were those inside the siege.

Therefore I believe these of Rev 7, the great multitude, came to accept their Messiah through their miseries, perhaps recalling His many teachings on their near future fate which was now taking place. They died inside Jerusalem under horrific conditions because they came to Christ too late to be spared the horrors of the great tribulation and thus did not flee as the Church fled to Pella prior to the siege.

Alternatively, this great tribulation could have been the suffering imposed by Nero and the Jewish religious order throughout the Roman Empire where a great number of Christians were killed and burned out of their homes in Rome which also had a diverse population from all over the Roman Empire. Either explanation fits well.

I was of the thinking that you would understand that I was speaking of the great tribulation I will use GT to help with the confusion.
In the Scripture I gave(Revelation 9:7) it states that they are from every "nation,tongue, kindred and tongues" so these are not only Jews(in the siege) who came to Christ but both Jews and gentiles. I don't see either alternative you suggest as a possibility because Nero did not do that to every nation,tongue,people and kindred but in Rome as you said. As to the other I cannot see God slaying Christians who washed their robes in his blood after they repented and confessed Christ as you suggest.

 

[iamsoandso]

Not all Jews!! The Jewish religious order opposed the War started by the zealots. It was all about money and power for them which they derived from their unholy alliance with Rome. They worshiped and declared Caesar as their one and only true king as we see here.

John 19: 12, 15 From this [time] was Pilate seeking to release him, and the Jews were crying out, saying, `If this one thou mayest release, thou art not a friend of Caesar; every one making himself a king, doth speak against Caesar.' ...and they cried out, `Take away, take away, crucify him;' Pilate saith to them, `Your king shall I crucify?' the chief priests answered, `We have no king except Caesar. (YLT)

Jesus was crucified more over power and money than any charge of blasphemy. Christ was betrayed over money and He was killed over money. If Christ were ever made "King of the Jews" He would have stripped these wicked priests of their wealth and power just as He did when He turned over the tables of the money changers. Jerusalem derived its wealth from its temple tax which was 10% of all Jewish income, not just in Israel but from Jews all over the world. Both Tacitus and Titus declared that Jerusalem was the richest city in the world, superior to even Rome's wealth. Tacitus writes, “Their capital is Jerusalem. Here stood their Temple with its boundless riches.” Because of this incredible amount of money funneling into Jerusalem through the Temple, first-century Jerusalem was the wealthiest city in the Roman world per capita. Before the Romans went on a killing spree in the city, Caesar Titus is recorded to have said the following implying the fact that Jerusalem was the richest city in the Roman Empire: “We [the Romans] have given you leave to gather up that tribute which is paid to God . . . till at length you became richer than we ourselves[.]” The religious order "worshiped" money over God.

Here one can see that it was the worship of money (which not ironically contained the deified image of Caesar, the beast) that ultimately caused Jesus and His followers to be persecuted and killed by the Jewish civil and religious authorities. This is why the Bible says “[T]he love of money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10).” It was greed that was Israel’s ultimate spiritual sin. And it was this greed that motivated these unjust murders. James 2:6, 5:1-6 and Luke 16:19-31 echo this link. After admonishing the church for showing favoritism to rich parishioners, James says the following in James 2:6: “Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court?” Furthermore, after crying “woe” to those who have stored up wealth in the last days in James 5:1-6, James says the following in the next verse: “You [the rich] have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you (James 5:6).” The “innocent one” murdered by the rich was Jesus. James could not be more explicit that it was the rich who were persecuting the church. If the rich were the enemies of the saints because they were the ones actively persecuting Jesus and His people, is it any wonder that the tangible aspect of the mark of the beast is money? The mark is both spiritual and tangible.

Roman coins from the time of Augustus to Domitian contained the graven image of Caesar often with claim of deity on the reverse side of the coin. All money and deeds of purchase were marked with Caesar’s name and/or image hence no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark of the beast (Roman Money). We can't buy or sell today without money either. But, per the Law of Moses, Jews were forbidden to possess money bearing the graven image of a false god. These coins would be considered little idols. Thus the Jews were allowed to mint their own currency without the image of Caesar. Handling Roman money alone was not a crime, but the love or worship of such money was. Most Jews of the first century living in Israel used Jewish coins. However, we know that Roman money was also in circulation. We know from Mat 22:15-21 that the Pharisees used Roman currency when they produced a Roman coin for Jesus. These same Pharisees not only had the mark spiritual, they possessed it literally.

The Jewish religious order of the day swore their allegiance to Caesar as I demonstrated. They trusted in Rome to protect them in exchange for keeping the Jews in line. The zealots threatened their way of life and thus they opposed the war with Rome. When Titus broke through all the priests left alive were brought before him and he ordered them all to be killed.

It would take me several pages to fully explain this so let this sink in for now....

And what about https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/18-20.htm ? if in John 19 (appox. 38 years prior to the first revolt) the chief priest who you quoted saying this would his sons bare his sin? I Judaism they all were awaiting the Messiah(anointed king), so as it seems the chief priest had the opinion that Jesus was not the Messiah(anointed king) of the Jews that they were expecting so his statement over not having any king other than Caesar wasn't suppose to change until the Messiah came according to Judaism correct?

The Jews in the siege almost forty years after the Cross began minting their own coins to avoid the issue of pagan images https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish_Revolt_coinage and so were trying to avoid polluting themselves with those images/idols. So again if the beast of Revelation 13 is Roman coinage with pagan images on them then the Jews in the siege did not use the beast money to buy and sell with.

As for piety/impiety https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impiety the Jews were very outspoken over what they thought of Caesar and Rome. They refused to sacrifice the Romans offerings (see chapter 17) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impiety So so far it is very provable in history that those Jews did not buy or sell with that image/mark nor did they worship Caesar as God(had no piety of him).

If you read chapter 18(I suggest reading the whole book), you will see that the Jews sacked Pella and so the only ones who would be safe there would be "Judaizers" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaizers which is who are listed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_to_Pella who were the Nazarene's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene_(sect) and the Ebionites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites that is those who were circumcised and followed the Law.

 

[VCO]

It's the number of your name that you have in your forehead and enter with your right hand. Only the one with the knowledge of it has the wisdom to calculate it.

It has nothing to do with a name. It is an ID Card on a TINY, TINY CHIP. And will replace Money.

 

[iamsoandso]

No this is not a mimicing of what God does, it is a great deception that is contrary to what God does. There is no AC, no 7 tribulation, no peace treaty with Israel, the second coming already happened and there is no 3rd coming in the bible.

If I see that stuff happen, no way I'm going to be deceived by it.... These guys are EXPERT deceivers, just look at CV19 or BLM, or "climate change". People who are not grounded FIRMLY in the world of God will buy this deception hook line and sinker. I'm just trying to warn the futurist that they are being lied to and are under a great deception and are promulgating the lie and deception to others.

That makes no sense KJ if you don't believe there will be an AC,GT or another coming of Christ then why would you need to warn anyone? would they not then be just like the Thessalonians https://biblehub.com/2_thessalonians/2-2.htm ?

So then if Paul who is an Apostle is still thinking that that day had not yet come(when he wrote 2Thess.), and spoke of it in future tense who shall we believe you who are not an Apostle or Paul who is an Apostle? And if Paul saw the Thessalonians as not understanding that same second coming but counted them as beloved then the issue over understanding eschatology is not a matter of deception as in being needing to be warned over as if not understanding it means their salvation is lost.

So again warning them about what? I always get a chuckle out of this it is like an atheist who doesn't believe in God or an afterlife warning us about goofing up something by believing in God as if we could goof up nothing. Not that I am accusing you of atheism, I know you believe and love the Lord it's just synonymous that you think you need to warn the futurist about things about things you don't believe will happen.

 

[iamsoandso]

And what about https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/18-20.htm ? if in John 19 (appox. 38 years prior to the first revolt) the chief priest who you quoted saying this would his sons bare his sin? I Judaism they all were awaiting the Messiah(anointed king), so as it seems the chief priest had the opinion that Jesus was not the Messiah(anointed king) of the Jews that they were expecting so his statement over not having any king other than Caesar wasn't suppose to change until the Messiah came according to Judaism correct?

The Jews in the siege almost forty years after the Cross began minting their own coins to avoid the issue of pagan images https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish_Revolt_coinage and so were trying to avoid polluting themselves with those images/idols. So again if the beast of Revelation 13 is Roman coinage with pagan images on them then the Jews in the siege did not use the beast money to buy and sell with.

As for piety/impiety https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impiety the Jews were very outspoken over what they thought of Caesar and Rome. They refused to sacrifice the Romans offerings (see chapter 17) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impiety So so far it is very provable in history that those Jews did not buy or sell with that image/mark nor did they worship Caesar as God(had no piety of him).

If you read chapter 18(I suggest reading the whole book), you will see that the Jews sacked Pella and so the only ones who would be safe there would be "Judaizers" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaizers which is who are listed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_to_Pella who were the Nazarene's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene_(sect) and the Ebionites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites that is those who were circumcised and followed the Law.

@PlainWord
lol, I forgot to give the link for chapter 17 and 18 http://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/war-2.html here it is...

 

[iamsoandso]

It has nothing to do with a name. It is an ID Card on a TINY, TINY CHIP. And will replace Money.

I would suggest reading Revelation 13 again. Other than that Israel,the temple ect. were removed in ad70 for a reason but man/men decided they would establish another and call it those same names. You are preforming the works of establishing a nation and temple that God removed. Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Holy Spirit dwells in you?

 

[KJV1611]

That makes no sense KJ if you don't believe there will be an AC,GT or another coming of Christ then why would you need to warn anyone? would they not then be just like the Thessalonians https://biblehub.com/2_thessalonians/2-2.htm ?

You shouldn't be warning people about somethings that's either not going to happen or will happen because it's a deception. Below is not the day of the Lord, it is the day of Christ. More specifically it is the day we meet the Lord at our deaths.

King James Bible
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

So then if Paul who is an Apostle is still thinking that that day had not yet come(when he wrote 2Thess.), and spoke of it in future tense who shall we believe you who are not an Apostle or Paul who is an Apostle? And if Paul saw the Thessalonians as not understanding that same second coming but counted them as beloved then the issue over understanding eschatology is not a matter of deception as in being needing to be warned over as if not understanding it means their salvation is lost.

Paul knew that day hadn't come because Paul knew exactly what he was talking about, his and our deaths. You're side has conflated so many different doctrines that you guys are miles from the truth. Common sense says that the temple of God is the temple of God.... US. And all of those verses you guys conflate into the "Second Coming" are all based around the man of sin sitting in the temple of God, the heart of man where only US or God can sit.

So again warning them about what? I always get a chuckle out of this it is like an atheist who doesn't believe in God or an afterlife warning us about goofing up something by believing in God as if we could goof up nothing. Not that I am accusing you of atheism, I know you believe and love the Lord it's just synonymous that you think you need to warn the futurist about things about things you don't believe will happen.

I'm not an elitist, I just believe every word of the exactly as written. There are no temples of God built with hands, and there never will be any temples of God built by hands in the future. That was a SHADOW of the real TRUE temple of God - us.

The bible says the temple of God, why would you not believe it's the temple of God? Seriously, I can't fathom why you guys turn the temple of God into a blasphemous temple made by the God hating Jews.

 

[iamsoandso]

You shouldn't be warning people about somethings that's either not going to happen or will happen because it's a deception. Below is not the day of the Lord, it is the day of Christ. More specifically it is the day we meet the Lord at our deaths.

King James Bible
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.


Paul knew that day hadn't come because Paul knew exactly what he was talking about, his and our deaths. You're side has conflated so many different doctrines that you guys are miles from the truth. Common sense says that the temple of God is the temple of God.... US. And all of those verses you guys conflate into the "Second Coming" are all based around the man of sin sitting in the temple of God, the heart of man where only US or God can sit.


I'm not an elitist, I just believe every word of the exactly as written. There are no temples of God built with hands, and there never will be any temples of God built by hands in the future. That was a SHADOW of the real TRUE temple of God - us.

The bible says the temple of God, why would you not believe it's the temple of God? Seriously, I can't fathom why you guys turn the temple of God into a blasphemous temple made by the God hating Jews.

lol, you have me confused with those who endorse the creation of an State of Israel and the building of another Temple. I do believe that the BOC is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. If you notice I disagree with both sides that is one's error is that if they help build another temple other that the one you mentioned it is an image and they will pay a price for erecting it.

On the other side they force the fulfillment's of the AC,AoD,mark,image ect. when they know they cannot explain those details from the timing of the destruction of the Temple. So in placing those events mistakenly in the past they see no relevance in the events taking place at present. It received a deadly wound,they said let us create an image of it,,they created it and now they will build another temple in it and the MoS will come.

 

[garee]

Actually it says, "great tribulation." I believe this was the same great tribulation Jesus spoke of in the Olivet, which was the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans. History tells us that Jerusalem's population had swollen to 1.2 million from its normal 250,000. This was because Jews from all over the known world returned for Passover. Thus, they were from "all (habitable) nations, and tribes, and peoples, and tongues." Those living in the Roman Empire viewed themselves as the "known or habitable world" (Rom 10:18) as if the rest of the world was inferior. We know from Acts 2 that devout Jews would return from all nations speaking all kinds of different languages. Rev 7:16 tells us they were hungry and hot as were those inside the siege.

Therefore I believe these of Rev 7, the great multitude, came to accept their Messiah through their miseries, perhaps recalling His many teachings on their near future fate which was now taking place. They died inside Jerusalem under horrific conditions because they came to Christ too late to be spared the horrors of the great tribulation and thus did not flee as the Church fled to Pella prior to the siege.

Alternatively, this great tribulation could have been the suffering imposed by Nero and the Jewish religious order throughout the Roman Empire where a great number of Christians were killed and burned out of their homes in Rome which also had a diverse population from all over the Roman Empire. Either explanation fits well.

The great tribulation began the workings of the last days .The metaphorical thousand years .

It was one like never before or ever again. The reformation that destroyed the abomination of desolation (Kings in Israel) had come to a end. The time period of judges before the abomination of desolation (Kings in Israel) was when men and woman prophets as a kingdom priest sent from a foreign land (Ambassadors not of here) were sent as apostles. That period or season has been restored. We have been restored the the present order almost two thousand literal years ago.

The promise of Joel

Acts 2:16-17 King James Version (KJV) But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Great tribulation like never before or ever again. Some Jew are still crying to a brick wall. Hoping for the reformation with the right ma. having rejected Jesus .God's man he sent with the gospel

Revelation 10:6 speaks of it. No longer could the father of lies deceive all the nation that God was a Jewish man . During that first century reformation many men woman and children were murdered under the Pagan order of Kings in Israel ( abomination of desolation)

The beginning of the greatest tribulation introducing . . . last days. It came by the reformation . Jesus said. It is finished. Not will be.

When the veil was rent exposing the holy place of God, no Jewish man was sitting .The need for wondering had come to the end. The mystery of faith working in the hearts of mankind revealed .

 

[garee]

lol, you have me confused with those who endorse the creation of an State of Israel and the building of another Temple. I do believe that the BOC is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. If you notice I disagree with both sides that is one's error is that if they help build another temple other that the one you mentioned it is an image and they will pay a price for erecting it.

On the other side they force the fulfillment's of the AC,AoD,mark,image ect. when they know they cannot explain those details from the timing of the destruction of the Temple. So in placing those events mistakenly in the past they see no relevance in the events taking place at present. It received a deadly wound,they said let us create an image of it,,they created it and now they will build another temple in it and the MoS will come.

The one on the left was on the right and the one in the middle was a Amil "no literal thousand years". It works the best or at least today. lol

Amils do not seek after signs they trust is in the gospel understanding hid in parable .Those parables reveal the mysteries of faith, No sign as a wonder. . . false source of faith was given.

The Bible says that natural man as in. "out of sight out of mind".. .called a evil generation. They are from Missouri the land of Oz lol where seeing is believing. The mark is clearly the mark of Cain a restless wanderer .No Sabbath rest with Christ who makes our tribulation lighter as he did with Abel .

 

[KJV1611]

lol, you have me confused with those who endorse the creation of an State of Israel and the building of another Temple. I do believe that the BOC is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. If you notice I disagree with both sides that is one's error is that if they help build another temple other that the one you mentioned it is an image and they will pay a price for erecting it.

On the other side they force the fulfillment's of the AC,AoD,mark,image ect. when they know they cannot explain those details from the timing of the destruction of the Temple. So in placing those events mistakenly in the past they see no relevance in the events taking place at present. It received a deadly wound,they said let us create an image of it,,they created it and now they will build another temple in it and the MoS will come.

I don't understand how people can't see that the abomination that makes desolate was the Jews killing Christ. I mean the bible evens says that Jesus became an abomination unto them and Jesus said "behold thy house is left desolate".... How much more clearer can that be?

 

[iamsoandso]

I don't understand how people can't see that the abomination that makes desolate was the Jews killing Christ. I mean the bible evens says that Jesus became an abomination unto them and Jesus said "behold thy house is left desolate".... How much more clearer can that be?

Still you should notice that the Apostles were told to wait and not leave Jerusalem and they did not. Then in Acts 2 they received the Holy Spirit as they were promised and then afterward the Holy Spirit had them remain in Jerusalem at least until the death of James. So if the AoD that Jesus referred to was his death then they would have left Judea at his death and not 35 or more years later. Remember Matthew 24 where Jesus says to flee when they saw the AoD spoken of in Daniel https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-16.htm .

Again it's like I said before of who is an apostle and whose not helping me decide who sees this correct. I know that if James,the elders and even Paul remained in Jerusalem up to Acts 21 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 21&version=KJV and saw the temple then still standing as functional and valid then they did not see it as polluted in about ad59 https://biblehub.com/timeline/acts/1.htm . Now they had not left because they did not see the AoD Jesus referred to in Matthew 24 and so then as Paul stated in 2 Thess. 2 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2&version=KJV until that son of perdition sits showing that he is God I will follow the Apostles opinions on this matter.

Not that I mean disrespect to your opinion but that it is clear that neither the Apostles nor the Holy Spirit felt that the Temple had been polluted and by their actions(Acts of the Apostles) made sacrifice in it,in Jerusalem as if it was valid,potent,not polluted ect. You said you don't understand how I might not see what you see and so to show you I thought it best to show you how the Apostles and the Holy Spirit treated the matter of fleeing when they saw the AoD.

 

[VCO]

I would suggest reading Revelation 13 again. Other than that Israel,the temple ect. were removed in ad70 for a reason but man/men decided they would establish another and call it those same names. You are preforming the works of establishing a nation and temple that God removed. Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Holy Spirit dwells in you?

It is obviously you do not know me. Prophecy was my Spiritual Milk, and then some. I listened the Dr. John MacArthur verse by verse Expository Sermon Series through the entire book of REVELATION FOUR TIMES on every single cassette Tape.

The Mark has NOTHING TO DO WITH a person, not Pope, not any individual. IT IS about GREED, AND CONTROL OF THE MASSES, AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE DICTATOR. BIGGEST HINT, is this VERSE.


Revelation 13:17 (YLT)
17 and that no one may be able to buy, or to sell, except he who is having the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


You put the emphasis on the WRONG PART OF THAT VERSE. I learned that during the first time I listened to MacArthur's series on REVELATION.

 

[VCO]

You are Getting us off SUBJECT, constantly.

 

[iamsoandso]

It is obviously you do not know me. Prophecy was my Spiritual Milk, and then some. I listened the Dr. John MacArthur verse by verse Expository Sermon Series through the entire book of REVELATION FOUR TIMES on every single cassette Tape.

The Mark has NOTHING TO DO WITH a person, not Pope, not any individual. IT IS about GREED, AND CONTROL OF THE MASSES, AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE DICTATOR. BIGGEST HINT, is this VERSE.


Revelation 13:17 (YLT)
17 and that no one may be able to buy, or to sell, except he who is having the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


You put the emphasis on the WRONG PART OF THAT VERSE. I learned that during the first time I listened to MacArthur's series on REVELATION.

Here's some meat "And that no one may be able to buy or sell, except he who is having the mark,OR the NAME of the beast OR the number of his name"...