This dam Nation taking many yo hell

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skipp

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I agree that certain parts of this site seem more Christian spat than chat, and that it could be detrimental to a newborn (hey if we veterans can't get together and agree on basic things, what chance does the newborn have?). But I cringe when someone goes off at others for thinking they know it all, when by implication they themselves are presenting as knowing it all. Perhaps God's Word is a little bigger than any one human language can contain - and as so people might have different takes and experiences with scripture that are equally valid. As for the word damn, is it being used as a verb (I damn thee) or a descriptor (you damn idiot)? The Bible uses it as a verb and I think for the most part we are ok in using it that way. But not as a descriptor. One is a call for action, the other a judgment.

Your run on sentences and poor spelling/grammar details tell me you are venting out of anger and not thoughtfulness. Love vents via thoughtfulness. Pure anger in and of itself is a sinful condition. Thoughtful, loving anger is righteous. Be careful which mode you employ in your rebukes.

We're all in the same foxhole, trying to use our limited ammo to right the works of this satan-damned fallen world. Let's use our ammo as a covering fire over each other, instead of as potshots at each other. That way we don't join the ranks of the damned.

10-4 and code 4?
"Christian spat"= sad, yet true.
 

tourist

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#42
I agree that certain parts of this site seem more Christian spat than chat, and that it could be detrimental to a newborn (hey if we veterans can't get together and agree on basic things, what chance does the newborn have?). But I cringe when someone goes off at others for thinking they know it all, when by implication they themselves are presenting as knowing it all. Perhaps God's Word is a little bigger than any one human language can contain - and as so people might have different takes and experiences with scripture that are equally valid. As for the word damn, is it being used as a verb (I damn thee) or a descriptor (you damn idiot)? The Bible uses it as a verb and I think for the most part we are ok in using it that way. But not as a descriptor. One is a call for action, the other a judgment.

Your run on sentences and poor spelling/grammar details tell me you are venting out of anger and not thoughtfulness. Love vents via thoughtfulness. Pure anger in and of itself is a sinful condition. Thoughtful, loving anger is righteous. Be careful which mode you employ in your rebukes.

We're all in the same foxhole, trying to use our limited ammo to right the works of this satan-damned fallen world. Let's use our ammo as a covering fire over each other, instead of as potshots at each other. That way we don't join the ranks of the damned.

10-4 and code 4?
10-4 good buddy.
 

crossnote

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(addressed to ClimaxWarrior)I'm not your play toy I'm not the one I got thick tough tried skin from many battles You are not sucking me into a battle but I will address you like this one time only, Now since you wanna be funny And I take this serious I'm as much of a mormon as you are a moron oops I meant idiot no I meant yeah moron I wont go to hell for this will I. Nope just defending the faith and myself from a personal attack without anger or malice.
Peace to you climaxwarior
Pastac, since you like to be blunt and you have been accused already, tell me plainly, are you a Mormon?
crossnote out of my respect for you and your body of work. I am a born again believer of Jesus Christ. I follow his teachings from Gen - Rev. I have most all of the belief tenants you have expressed. I don't really know what a Mormon is other than the guys fro Utah riding bicycles. If this was anyone but you I would let you think what you think but I am a servant of the resurrected Christ. Covered by his shed blood walking the rest of this journey the best I can until he returns to complete his word in the earth. I'm not Mormon, or any other faction I am a Christian and very honored to say so.
Ok thanks for clearing the air, perhaps Climax owes an apology?
 
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pastac

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no one owes me an apology I'm a big boy I haven't done anything except express my views and they were taken to places I never imagined I'm ok with everything said this is not my first skirmish. it is ok to get angry folks and still not sin!!!
 
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I want to let of some spiritual steam right now. I'm incensed at the rampant agendas and pure propaganda on this site. There are some real well rounded believers ,some young ones, some in betweeners, and then there are some out right ignorant carnal believers promoting all sorts of idiocy. My thinking is that a Christian site should be just that, catering to issues that are relevant to promoting Christians and soul winning, living lives to our full potential under the headship of the Holy Spirit.
Yet what I find is a lot of traditional in the box thinking about how God thinks, and Jesus is love and very little substance because the issues always lead to a debate or dissertation on who is more learned on a given subject. Here is my bible proof before folks start screaming I'm ranting. D*** D*** D*** there I said it. H*** H*** H*** pastac done gone off cursing he's secular he's a hypocrite or whatever I'm sure I'll get rave reviews for this but it has to be said.
I don't condone the misuse of these words..... yes, yer letting off steam..... you should have done it privately. This was uncalled for.

You cannot expect "proper" attitudes from a "popular" site..... not gonna happen.

What can we expect from a popular site? Popular teachings (many false), popular lifestyles of modern church members (many sinful), popular trends (worldly), & so on. This is not a church with a pastor & board that keeps spiritual order. This is a public chat site for anyone that minds basic manners.

You cannot simply expect something not holy to act holy. It won't comply. Athiests, Mormons, JW's, hypocrites, & just plain 'ole sinners can't be holy.

Expect only the proper fruit from the proper tree.

Matthew 7:15-20 (KJV) [SUP]15 [/SUP]Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 

Blain

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I admit I get angry, I get very angry when someone especially a Christian is attacking someone or judging them because I guess I am very protective and i make sure to tell them what they are doing is wrong and that I will not stand by and let them do this.
Of course I regret it afterwards but i dont know if there is such thing as righteous anger. My anger was out of protection and love but still I cannot see that as righteous or justified in any way.
even the most loving and humble Christians have that one weak spot that makes them infuriated, but don't make the same mistake I did and act on that anger because even if you did it for a good reason you will regret it afterwards. God has righteous anger because he is righteous but us?
 
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xray lima this is lameduck over xray lima this is lameduck
need help in the foxhole, I got two grenades left and have to keep them for when it really gets hot in the zone. Magazine running low need ammo I've been hit bleeding but not life threatening. I'll make it. Call in some cover fire you copy that Over
Lameduck this is xray lima do you copy...lameduck this is xray lima do you copy....we have a bird on station...pop green smoke and direct fire accordingly....c-130 Spectre Charlie 5 Bravo ready to assist...105's on the way HAHAHHA boom boom boom boom boom boom/////boom boom boom boom boom boom boom HAHAH funny...can almost smell the cordite HAHAH c-4 and spent 5.56 rounds hHAHHHAHA
 
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Not so sure about the Paul thing.... But Moses was rebuked/punished right? When he hit the rock in anger he was told he would not enter the promised land and he died on top of the mountain not entering the promised land. I think that was a rebuke/punishment.
Yes that was for sure as he was told to SPEAK to the rock and it cost him under the law....but the point cited was not met with rebuke and Paul was speaking to the Corinthian Church if I remember right.....
 
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pastac

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Lameduck this is xray lima do you copy...lameduck this is xray lima do you copy....we have a bird on station...pop green smoke and direct fire accordingly....c-130 Spectre Charlie 5 Bravo ready to assist...105's on the way HAHAHHA boom boom boom boom boom boom/////boom boom boom boom boom boom boom HAHAH funny...can almost smell the cordite HAHAH c-4 and spent 5.56 rounds hHAHHHAHA
copy that xraylima follow green smoke repeat follow greensmoke taking fire hostiles unknown, sniper in the treeline location secure ammo low repeat ammo low
 
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pastac

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I don't condone the misuse of these words..... yes, yer letting off steam..... you should have done it privately. This was uncalled for.

You cannot expect "proper" attitudes from a "popular" site..... not gonna happen.

What can we expect from a popular site? Popular teachings (many false), popular lifestyles of modern church members (many sinful), popular trends (worldly), & so on. This is not a church with a pastor & board that keeps spiritual order. This is a public chat site for anyone that minds basic manners.

You cannot simply expect something not holy to act holy. It won't comply. Athiests, Mormons, JW's, hypocrites, & just plain 'ole sinners can't be holy.

Expect only the proper fruit from the proper tree.

Matthew 7:15-20 (KJV) [SUP]15 [/SUP]Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Most of your reply made sense except for condone the use of what words? and exactly what was uncalled for? Maybe you meant some of the personal remarks made directed at me instead of taking the scripture approach. You at least made an effort to tell me your thoughts in a civil way. Maybe we are not to use dam and hell in any context maybe I'm missing something. I see corrupt and ravening wolves related to men correct? So why cant I use damn and hell in the proper context of damnation. Don't the dammed go to hell? if you put a hyphen between dam isn't nation the only portion of that word left? In anywise this is not the direction I anticipated yet it seems to be the direction it was drug to. Peace to you.
 
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pastac

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I admit I get angry, I get very angry when someone especially a Christian is attacking someone or judging them because I guess I am very protective and i make sure to tell them what they are doing is wrong and that I will not stand by and let them do this.
Of course I regret it afterwards but i dont know if there is such thing as righteous anger. My anger was out of protection and love but still I cannot see that as righteous or justified in any way.
even the most loving and humble Christians have that one weak spot that makes them infuriated, but don't make the same mistake I did and act on that anger because even if you did it for a good reason you will regret it afterwards. God has righteous anger because he is righteous but us?
Blain re read the post in its proper context remove preconceived ideas and see the real intent behind the very clear post you may be presently surprised if yore not already! Peace to you.
 

crossnote

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Shock threads amuse me as much as shock jocks...just sayin.
Most christians have been around the block several times.
 
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pastac

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well I guess most threads are shocking. I am shocked too!
 

pickles

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Pastac, I learned long ago that if I want to see the perfect, I will not see it in others, for we all fall short.
We are called to seek Him who is perfect, Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
The amazing thing is?
That when I look first and always to Jesus, that His perfect shines brightly in all who seek Him, it is then that one sees the perfect in all who seek Jesus.
First we see darkly through the mirror, then we shall see face to face!
For there are three things that last, faith, hope and love, the greatest of these being love. :)

God bless
pickles
 
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pastac

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Pastac, I learned long ago that if I want to see the perfect, I will not see it in others, for we all fall short.
We are called to seek Him who is perfect, Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
The amazing thing is?
That when I look first and always to Jesus, that His perfect shines brightly in all who seek Him, it is then that one sees the perfect in all who seek Jesus.
First we see darkly through the mirror, then we shall see face to face!
For there are three things that last, faith, hope and love, the greatest of these being love. :)

God bless
pickles
Your words ring forth with truth and clarity sometime lately this has been a rarity. Yes I hear you and I do understand. I carry a heavy burden speak or keep silent. Be ridiculed for being obedient or keep silent.
Cry LOUD and spare not or keep silent. And I have to do that humbly and with no regard for my well being! Whew I wonder is it worth it sometimes then I remember. My trial sermon twenty years ago my wife attended with me she was moved by the word the Lord spoke through me and gave her life to Christ because I was obedient to his word and did not keep silent.
I am still married to her still love her and still not keeping silent.
I can't risk not trying to reach souls because folks get offended for that I pray earnestly. Jesus has the most profound effect on many and has yet to affect some due to the sin infection. I love the Lord whole heartily not to suggest others don't, and try to stay focused on his leading. I will continue to believe one man can make a difference, his name is Jesus and I am his servant as are you,I thank you for your words.
 

pickles

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After I posted, I could not help but consider that the frustration you feel and speak to, is maby a small taste of the same that God Our Father felt for us all.
Consider, all that He created for us, all He gave to us, from the garden of eden to His comandments, all are made in the love He has for us.
Yet again and again, we continued to sin, to reject Him, His love.
So what did God do?

He loved us even more, by sending His son, Jesus , to suffer the cross for us, taking all our sins upon Himself for our sake, because of the love God Has for us. :)
And yet, we still fail , so He set His gift of grace upon us, so sin would not have any hold on us.

Yes there is much more, obedience ,speaking truth, repentance, perfect love.
And yet as Paul explained, it is in our weakness, that God's power is made perfect, glorified!
For His love surpasses all we can even imagine.
For He works all things to His good perpose.

God bless :)
pickles
 
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pastac

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For the record
Maybe its me I don't know but the Nation in which we live the city or state seems to be allowing more and more of the worlds ways and less and less of God ways. When thousands upon thousands of Christians don't believe anything is wrong with watching the walking dead the vampire diaries or any other godless show then I only see room for desensitizing the work of Christ for pleasure. Imagine that Christians watching that stuff thinking its ok and not affecting their walk! Wow. And that's called entertainment. I choose to live as separate as I can and I am selective very selective of what I feed my Spirit and even I may not get it right but my efforts surely don't include demonic influences that I can clearly see. But that is Just me and my calling.

When its ok for men to seek men to marry or women to seek women to marry I ask myself is this headed towards damnation? When hiv comes into the church from the pulpit we see the pulpit is not safe yet when one truly defends it they are met with ridicule and opposition.

This world is in bad shape if you look at any new report ebola, suicide bombers,wars, rumors of wars, famine, sickness and disease and many argue over how to fix it. Some don't even take a stance but slap those who do. This finger is pointed at the author of these problems. the devil ,satan, the enemy for anyone who is reading this he is the enemy not me or any other brother or sister. We are called to fight I do so with honor and integrity and fearlessness traits I did not always have. Yet I too had a Saul moment in my life and became who I am now. Gods servant pastac.
 
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After I posted, I could not help but consider that the frustration you feel and speak to, is maby a small taste of the same that God Our Father felt for us all.
Consider, all that He created for us, all He gave to us, from the garden of eden to His comandments, all are made in the love He has for us.
Yet again and again, we continued to sin, to reject Him, His love.
So what did God do?

He loved us even more, by sending His son, Jesus , to suffer the cross for us, taking all our sins upon Himself for our sake, because of the love God Has for us. :)
And yet, we still fail , so He set His gift of grace upon us, so sin would not have any hold on us.

Yes there is much more, obedience ,speaking truth, repentance, perfect love.
And yet as Paul explained, it is in our weakness, that God's power is made perfect, glorified!
For His love surpasses all we can even imagine.
For He works all things to His good perpose.

God bless :)
pickles
I agree, good post pickles
 
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pastac

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After I posted, I could not help but consider that the frustration you feel and speak to, is maby a small taste of the same that God Our Father felt for us all.
Consider, all that He created for us, all He gave to us, from the garden of eden to His comandments, all are made in the love He has for us.
Yet again and again, we continued to sin, to reject Him, His love.
So what did God do?

He loved us even more, by sending His son, Jesus , to suffer the cross for us, taking all our sins upon Himself for our sake, because of the love God Has for us. :)
And yet, we still fail , so He set His gift of grace upon us, so sin would not have any hold on us.

Yes there is much more, obedience ,speaking truth, repentance, perfect love.
And yet as Paul explained, it is in our weakness, that God's power is made perfect, glorified!
For His love surpasses all we can even imagine.
For He works all things to His good perpose.

God bless :)
pickles
You are truly amazing lifting the cloud that descended upon your brother> Keep it up I may just keep silent! Naw!!!! Words received with the Love sent forth.
Peace to you
 

pickles

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For the record
Maybe its me I don't know but the Nation in which we live the city or state seems to be allowing more and more of the worlds ways and less and less of God ways. When thousands upon thousands of Christians don't believe anything is wrong with watching the walking dead the vampire diaries or any other godless show then I only see room for desensitizing the work of Christ for pleasure. Imagine that Christians watching that stuff thinking its ok and not affecting their walk! Wow. And that's called entertainment. I choose to live as separate as I can and I am selective very selective of what I feed my Spirit and even I may not get it right but my efforts surely don't include demonic influences that I can clearly see. But that is Just me and my calling.

When its ok for men to seek men to marry or women to seek women to marry I ask myself is this headed towards damnation? When hiv comes into the church from the pulpit we see the pulpit is not safe yet when one truly defends it they are met with ridicule and opposition.

This world is in bad shape if you look at any new report ebola, suicide bombers,wars, rumors of wars, famine, sickness and disease and many argue over how to fix it. Some don't even take a stance but slap those who do. This finger is pointed at the author of these problems. the devil ,satan, the enemy for anyone who is reading this he is the enemy not me or any other brother or sister. We are called to fight I do so with honor and integrity and fearlessness traits I did not always have. Yet I too had a Saul moment in my life and became who I am now. Gods servant pastac.
It is heartbreaking to see the world's, flesh's hold on those who do not know Jesus.
Yet, scripture does say that God created the world with His wisdom.
When I first saw this scripture I was puzzled, but then as we are asked, I accepted in faith His word, and His peace filled.
Many here argue about which matters, isit all about one thing or another?
I wondered myself, then I came across a scripture that explained it all.

Some He called through understanding, thus making a differance.
Some He called through rightousness, despising the flesh that clings.

I saw then that it is not about what I decided, but God's work done in us and through us.
That yes we are called to serve and speak, but we need always to remain mindful, that it is His power, knowladge and love at work, through us.
We are but faithful servants, trusting all in Jesus to Him.
For we walk by faith, not by sight. :)

mind bogleing isnt it, to realise, it is not we who hold His mind , but His mind that holds us, providing all needed, as needed, for His good perpose.

God bless
pickles