"this generation will not pass away" - until the second coming of Jesus?

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Dino246

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You remove my presented scripture in your response, why?

Because it Clearly Presents The Truth :)

The (Second Coming)!
I removed the Scripture you quoted because the Scripture does not say what your comments say.
 

Dino246

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No it does not. The Greek word genea which has been literally translated as "generation" can also me a nation or a race. It is a reference to the nation of Israel, which was revived in 1948 and is still there in spite of all the hatred from Arabs and Muslims. It also applies indirectly to all Jews worldwide, who will be gathered to Israel after the Second Coming of Christ.
None of which applies to Jesus' words in Matthew 24.
 

JaumeJ

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#24
Please understand, "this generation" most likely refers to the generation of mankind from Adam until our Savior's return.
 

Truth7t7

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Matthew 24:27-31; Mark 13:24-27; Luke 21:25-28:
[explains about second coming of Jesus]

Matthew 24:34; Mark 13:30; Luke 21:32:
"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."

Does it mean that, the second coming (as explained in Matt 24:27-31) was expected during the same generation when Jesus lived?
(This Generation) is the (Future) generation that will witness the events of Daniels Abomination, The Great Tribulation, and The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.
 

Dino246

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(This Generation) is the (Future) generation that will witness the events of Daniels Abomination, The Great Tribulation, and The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.
The chapter begins with Jesus' prophecy that the temple would be destroyed. It was destroyed about 40 years later... many of the people who were alive at the time He spoke those words would still have been alive in 70 AD.

Jesus said "This generation", not "That generation". I find quite humorous the mental gymnastics people invent to make it mean something other than what the plain text means.
 

JaumeJ

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Here are some mental gymnastics. The chief and the corner stone of the Tmple was rejected of men and taken up to heaven. The living stones of the Temple were left behind to continue in the good works of our Father. The Master will return to rebuild the Temple.

We are the Living Stones, and our Savior is the Chief and the Corner Stone. We are warned that those in Yeshua will be scattered until He returns to rebuild the Temple.

Perhaps there are still some of the living stones together but not for long.

The Greatest Tribulation ever has yet to occur. You see our Savior has not yet returned. But soon Lord, Soon, amen.
 

Truth7t7

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The chapter begins with Jesus' prophecy that the temple would be destroyed. It was destroyed about 40 years later... many of the people who were alive at the time He spoke those words would still have been alive in 70 AD.

Jesus said "This generation", not "That generation". I find quite humorous the mental gymnastics people invent to make it mean something other than what the plain text means.
The chapter begins with the question when the (Second Coming) and (End Of The World) will take place, the entire chapter is devoted to these topics.

The Second Coming and End Of The World are future events unfulfilled.

Matthew 24:3KJV

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
 

TheDivineWatermark

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Matthew 24:34; Mark 13:30; Luke 21:32:
"Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Does it mean that, the second coming (as explained in Matt 24:27-31) was expected during the same generation when Jesus lived?
Notice that Luke 21:32's "UNTIL ALL these things take place [/ TILL ALL shall have taken place / TILL ALL be fulfilled]" necessarily MUST INCLUDE those items which verse 24 had already JUST MENTIONED :

--24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword,

--and will be led captive into all the nations;

--and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

[note that "the TIMES of the Gentiles" started in 606/605bc, think: 'Gentile domination over Israel' (with Neb as 'head of gold'), and will not be CONCLUDED until Christ's Second Coming to the earth, yet future (per Dan2:35, Dan7:25,27, Rev11:2, and Matt24:29-31/Isa27:12-13 [<--note here the OPPOSITE of their being "LED AWAY CAPTIVE INTO ALL THE NATIONS" which was the 70ad events ;) , [... and other related passages]; being "led away captive into all the nations" cannot be the same as "gathered... TO worship the Lord in the holy mount AT JERUSALEM"... and again, recall that Lk21:32's "TILL ALL be fulfilled" MUST INCLUDE the items listed in what verse 24 had ALREADY just said. ;) )




Hope this helps. = )
 

Dino246

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The chapter begins with the question when the (Second Coming) and (End Of The World) will take place, the entire chapter is devoted to these topics.

The Second Coming and End Of The World are future events unfulfilled.

Matthew 24:3KJV
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
It's quite strange that you claim "The chapter begins..." at verse 3.
 

Truth7t7

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No. He was clearly referring to the stone temple, about which the disciples had marveled.
Jesus Christ did destroy the temple, it was totally removed.

He wasn't talking about an actual temple made of stones, but the operations spiritually within the temple.

At the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the temple was (Demolished) non-existent, removed as useless, gone!

Yes Jesus Said This Very Same Thing To His Discuss In Matthew 24:1-2

Matthew 26:59-61KJV
59 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death;
60 But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses,
61 And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

John 2:19-22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
 

Truth7t7

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It's quite strange that you claim "The chapter begins..." at verse 3.
It's quite strange how you believe that Jesus Christ was talking about actual stones, when he was clearly talking about the temple being destroyed in the spiritual.

It appears that you are sitting on the sidelines with the Pharisees in believing it's a literal temple, that took 46 years to build, smiles!

Yes Jesus Christ told his disciples the temple would be destroyed in Matthew 24:1-2, and yes in John 2-22, these very same words are seen in a Parallel teaching.

Matthew 24:1-2
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Matthew 26:59-61KJV
59 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death;
60 But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses,
61 And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

John 2:19-22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
 

Dino246

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Jesus Christ did destroy the temple, it was totally removed.

He wasn't talking about an actual temple made of stones, but the operations spiritually within the temple.

At the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the temple was (Demolished) non-existent, removed as useless, gone!

Yes Jesus Said This Very Same Thing To His Discuss In Matthew 24:1-2

Matthew 26:59-61KJV
59 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death;
60 But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses,
61 And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

John 2:19-22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Again, John 2 is not Matthew 24. Matthew 26 is not Matthew 24 either. The text in those two passages clearly tells us that, when talking to the Council, Jesus was talking about His physical body. That is not the case in Matthew 24. The disciples asked about the stone temple; Jesus' answer in no way hints that He was talking about anything other than the stone temple. The temple was indeed torn down, stone by stone, within that generation. The reader must engage in eisegesis to make Jesus' words about anything but the stone temple.