Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

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And what your sinful "refeed day"? Is that not considered gluttony? If i get purged from here, I'm taking you with me... :p lol JK


LOL...I shall never "repent" from my refeed day.

Begone "accuser of the brethren!"...:rolleyes:

...just because I eat around 6,000 calories on Fridays doesn't make it that "big" of a sin....lol
 

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Suuuurrrreee... You heretic, trying to justify your sin.. :p


LOL...I shall never "repent" from my refeed day.

Begone "accuser of the brethren!"...:rolleyes:

...just because I eat around 6,000 calories on Fridays doesn't make it that "big" of a sin....lol
 
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it seems to me that this contention is not that far apart, it is all in the semantics. On the one hand, I don't think there is anyone who believes that as a Christian they have lived a totally sinless life, if they actually believe that then they need to get saved because they do not have the convicting power of the Holy Spirit in their life. On the other hand, to make the bold statement, that we have to sin, is extremely misleading because the truth is that we do not HAVE TO SIN. I see it this way, we should never promote the idea that we have to sin, at the same time we should never promote the idea that we are living a sinless life. In other words, we live for the Lord and stay away from sin and be humble, accepting that we can sin.
 
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it seems to me that this contention is not that far apart, it is all in the semantics. On the one hand, I don't think there is anyone who believes that as a Christian they have lived a totally sinless life, if they actually believe that then they need to get saved because they do not have the convicting power of the Holy Spirit in their life. On the other hand, to make the bold statement, that we have to sin, is extremely misleading because the truth is that we do not HAVE TO SIN. I see it this way, we should never promote the idea that we have to sin, at the same time we should never promote the idea that we are living a sinless life. In other words, we live for the Lord and stay away from sin and be humble, accepting that we can sin.

Pull up a quote showing the bolded please
 

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Let us look at the crowns that saints shall receive,which they believe they are a reward,and whether they get them,or not,they still have salvation,for they are not crowns applying to salvation,but a reward.

But the crowns are given to all the saints.

1Co 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
1Co 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
1Co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

No saint is corruptible,for they would not be in heaven if they were corruptible,so this crown uncorruptible is given to all saints,and applies to salvation,for we cannot have salvation if we are corruptible.

Paul also said if he does not keep under his body,and bring it in to subjection,which he is saying to keep it in check,and cease from sinning by not wanting sin,allowing the Spirit to lead him,he would be a castaway.

Castaway.

adokimos
ad-ok'-ee-mos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.

2Ti 4:7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
2Ti 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

The crown of righteousness is given to all who love Jesus' appearing,which would apply to all the saints,so they all receive this crown.

Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Jas 1:16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

The crown of life is given to all those who love Jesus,so the crown of life is given to all the saints,and pertains to eternal life,salvation.

Also notice that the ones who receive this crown are the ones who endure temptation,for when he is tried,he will receive the crown of life,which obviously means that the ones who endure temptation,to not play upon it,beat the temptation,and do not sin,they are the ones that receive the crown of life,which is eternal life given to all the saints who love Jesus,for the only way you can love Jesus is to allow the Spirit to lead you,and abstain from sin,which if you honestly do not want sin by the Spirit you will not sin,and will you say the Spirit will fail,and the fruit of the Spirit that is displayed when a person is led of the Spirit,has no ways of the flesh there,and the Spirit will not lead anyone unless they give up all sin,and do not want any sin,and if a person holds unto sin they are not led of the Spirit.Give up all sin,not the big ones,and keep the little ones,but give up all sin,and all sin is unrighteousness.

Also when it states that the person that endures temptation,and beats it,shall receive the crown of life,then God tells us that He does not tempt us,but we are tempted by our lusts,and enticed,and if we play upon that temptation and sin,then it leads to death.

And then God gives us a big warning worthy to be heeded of the upmost importance,far greater than the finest diamonds,more precious than the purest gold,better than all the riches,and treasures,in the whole world,both possessed,and lost.

God said,do not be deceived.

The person that endures temptation,and does not play upon it,beats it,and does not sin,they shall receive a crown of life,which is not a reward for some and not others,for it is given to all who love Jesus,and is eternal life,and God warns us that if we are tempted,and enticed,and sin,it leads to death,do not be deceived,I repeat,do not be deceived.

If the world cannot get away with sin,then the saints cannot get away with it even more,and if you hold unto sin and do not want to get rid of it,you are in the position of losing you soul,for it leads to death.

Do not be deceived.

The crowns are given to all the saints,for the uncorruptible crown is given to all the saints,for there will be no corrupted saint in heaven.

The crown of righteousness is given to all the saints,who love His appearing,so of course it applies to all saints,for they want to be with Jesus.

The crown of life is given to all saints,for it is given to all who love the Lord,which no one can be in heaven unless they love the Lord.

Some say there are a reward,and some will receive them,and some not,whichever ones they receive,or do not receive,and not pertaining to eternal life,but they are given to all the saints,and do pertain to eternal life,for if you do not receive the uncorruptible crown,then you are corrupted,so how can you be saved,and if you did not receive the crown of righteousness,you did not love Jesus' appearing,and you did not put on the righteousness of Christ,then how are you saved,and if you did not receive the crown of life,you did not love Jesus,so how are you saved.

If they are a reward,and does not pertain to eternal life,will an angel announce before the saints in heaven,attention all saints,welcome to your first day in heaven with your glorified bodies,they feel good don't they,so get used to it for they are yours for eternity,and they never have to be washed.

All saints who love the Lord,loved His appearing,and is uncorrupted,report to the west wing.

All saints who did not love the Lord,did not love His appearing,and was corrupted,report to the east wing,but hey at least you have salvation.

That will not happen,so the crowns are given to all saints,and applies to eternal life,and not a reward that some might get,and some might not get.

And God said,you hold unto sin,it beings forth death,do not be deceived.

Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Which this is a good message seeing that so many people that say,I am chosen,hang unto sin,which this is by physical observation,and not hearsay,or a rumor,or heard it through the grapevine,one guy they call the million dollar Mike,that is stingy for money,and heaps it to himself,and likes giving the ladies a hug at Church,and holds unto those things,but in that position he is saved,when God said do not be deceived.

But there is no arguing I suppose,because they will say that OSAS,so they will get rid of all sin before they depart from this earth,but then they have this to contend with,for when they did hold unto sin,at that time they were not led of the Spirit,they were in the position of receiving death of the soul,they erred from the truth,and they were not converted,which means for a period they were not right with God,and lost their relationship with Christ,for they were fleshy,so if it is OSAS how could they ever obtain that position,when they should always be right with God for spiritual salvation at all times,which then that would open up the possibility that it is not OSAS.

Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully(hold unto sin,and not give it up) after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins(the blood of Christ cannot wash it away),
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning(if they actually do repent of their sins,and do not want sin,and go for a time,but then go back to the sins,which some did not actually give up sin when they confessed Christ).
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Tell me a story--will ya, will ya
A real good story, I won't leave till ya
Spill your guts old man
Leave out any secrets, hiding in the closet.

Any skeletons, and all your other sins
Any skeletons, in the closet

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

But they will ignore scriptures,and click their heels three times,and say there's no thing like faith alone,there's no thing like faith alone,there's no thing like faith alone.

I know some people before they read the post,and click on it,will probably think,now what does this numbskull got to say.
I have to disagree.. While I do think some parents go overboard. I am thankful my parents, and my God did not spare the rod.

While I agree, many do not understand the chastening of the Lord. Those of us who have been trained by it do understand the pain it causes..

The reason for chastening is to understand our actions causes consequences. And to train us to do what is good, and not things which are damaging to us and others.
What what??? You disagree with me.

Excuse me for 10 whilst I cry and throw a tantrum :cool:

What I was trying to say is that people who have had negative experiences of discipline will relate to God as a harsh God.

Discipline in my childhood ranged from being called things I wouldn't call my worst enemy, to slaps and fists to my face and the buckle of the belt being used, this was the case for even the minor offence committed.

That's the type of discipline I meant. It took me a long long time to believe that God would not be like to me.

As for your post with this I agree.
 
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it seems to me that this contention is not that far apart, it is all in the semantics. On the one hand, I don't think there is anyone who believes that as a Christian they have lived a totally sinless life, if they actually believe that then they need to get saved because they do not have the convicting power of the Holy Spirit in their life. On the other hand, to make the bold statement, that we have to sin, is extremely misleading because the truth is that we do not HAVE TO SIN. I see it this way, we should never promote the idea that we have to sin, at the same time we should never promote the idea that we are living a sinless life. In other words, we live for the Lord and stay away from sin and be humble, accepting that we can sin.
an example of how people change a few words. and division and contention and confusion is spread.

The contention is much deeper than this,, If you just got the belief systems right and what people actually say, You might see how bad it really is.
 
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Suuuurrrreee... You heretic, trying to justify your sin.. :p

Don't you know that your sin takes you to hell...but my sin doesn't? ( it's because I don't see it or don't acknowledge it as sin...shhhhh..don't tell anyone - it's "secret squirrel stuff" ) C'mon get with the program.
 
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What what??? You disagree with me.

Excuse me for 10 whilst I cry and throw a tantrum :cool:

What I was trying to say is that people who have had negative experiences of discipline will relate to God as a harsh God.

Discipline in my childhood ranged from being called things I wouldn't call my worst enemy, to slaps and fists to my face and the buckle of the belt being used, this was the case for even the minor offence committed.

That's the type of discipline I meant. It took me a long long time to believe that God would not be like to me.

As for your post with this I agree.

Join the crowd bro...My dad was killed when I was three...had three abusive steps dads and one of them tried to kill my brother and I for the Social Security checks.......may God have mercy on them.....One who was particularly abusive I wrote a letter to and witnessed of JESUS and forgave him....now I pity him and his lost state!
 
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What what??? You disagree with me.

Excuse me for 10 whilst I cry and throw a tantrum :cool:

I know the world is going to end isn't it??

i pray you did not break anything.
:p

What I was trying to say is that people who have had negative experiences of discipline will relate to God as a harsh God.

Discipline in my childhood ranged from being called things I wouldn't call my worst enemy, to slaps and fists to my face and the buckle of the belt being used, this was the case for even the minor offence committed.

That's the type of discipline I meant. It took me a long long time to believe that God would not be like to me.

As for your post with this I agree.

I agree,, It can be rough, Many do not realize God is not like our parents, Who are not perfect.. And some worse than others.

It takes some time to realise when he chastens you, He knows the exact thing he needs to do to get our attention.. and never acts out of anger..
 
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an example of how people change a few words. and division and contention and confusion is spread.

The contention is much deeper than this,, If you just got the belief systems right and what people actually say, You might see how bad it really is.

I really like the "bold statement that we have to sin" statement....I asked for him to pull up an example and even said please.....still waiting for that quote
 
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Hi dcon: Sigh! The statement that we have to sin, becomes a bold statement, because it takes a bold person to presume such a thing.
 
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Hi dcon: Sigh! The statement that we have to sin, becomes a bold statement, because it takes a bold person to presume such a thing.
HEY SAMUEL.....again I ask who has said that WE HAVE TO SIN.....no one has said that...so...why would you make that comparison?
 
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What what??? You disagree with me.

Excuse me for 10 whilst I cry and throw a tantrum :cool:

What I was trying to say is that people who have had negative experiences of discipline will relate to God as a harsh God.

Discipline in my childhood ranged from being called things I wouldn't call my worst enemy, to slaps and fists to my face and the buckle of the belt being used, this was the case for even the minor offence committed.

That's the type of discipline I meant. It took me a long long time to believe that God would not be like to me.

As for your post with this I agree.

I agree...God disciplines us through His word. We subject ourselves unto the Father of spirits. His words are spirit and they are life to us.

If we want to see how our Father disciplines us - look to Jesus while He was on this earth. He came to reveal the Father and to do His will. Jesus said "it is the Father in Me doing His works".

Watch how Jesus interacted with the disciples and see how He disciplined them - He used His words.

God doesn't hold our hands in the fire to be burned to show us that playing with fire can cause trouble. We wouldn't do that to our children and we would be thrown in jail for such a thing and yet some in the religious world says that's the very thing God does to "teach us things or to discipline us."

The heart of man was not designed to trust such a being as this. It is contrary to the very life and nature of God.

Sometimes people are not rejecting God - they are rejecting the "god" that we are projecting onto them with our wrong beliefs about His true character.
 

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Let us look at the crowns that saints shall receive,which they believe they are a reward,and whether they get them,or not,they still have salvation,for they are not crowns applying to salvation,but a reward.

But the crowns are given to all the saints.

1Co 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
1Co 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
1Co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

No saint is corruptible,for they would not be in heaven if they were corruptible,so this crown uncorruptible is given to all saints,and applies to salvation,for we cannot have salvation if we are corruptible.

Paul also said if he does not keep under his body,and bring it in to subjection,which he is saying to keep it in check,and cease from sinning by not wanting sin,allowing the Spirit to lead him,he would be a castaway.

Castaway.

adokimos
ad-ok'-ee-mos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.

2Ti 4:7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
2Ti 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

The crown of righteousness is given to all who love Jesus' appearing,which would apply to all the saints,so they all receive this crown.

Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Jas 1:16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

The crown of life is given to all those who love Jesus,so the crown of life is given to all the saints,and pertains to eternal life,salvation.

Also notice that the ones who receive this crown are the ones who endure temptation,for when he is tried,he will receive the crown of life,which obviously means that the ones who endure temptation,to not play upon it,beat the temptation,and do not sin,they are the ones that receive the crown of life,which is eternal life given to all the saints who love Jesus,for the only way you can love Jesus is to allow the Spirit to lead you,and abstain from sin,which if you honestly do not want sin by the Spirit you will not sin,and will you say the Spirit will fail,and the fruit of the Spirit that is displayed when a person is led of the Spirit,has no ways of the flesh there,and the Spirit will not lead anyone unless they give up all sin,and do not want any sin,and if a person holds unto sin they are not led of the Spirit.Give up all sin,not the big ones,and keep the little ones,but give up all sin,and all sin is unrighteousness.

Also when it states that the person that endures temptation,and beats it,shall receive the crown of life,then God tells us that He does not tempt us,but we are tempted by our lusts,and enticed,and if we play upon that temptation and sin,then it leads to death.

And then God gives us a big warning worthy to be heeded of the upmost importance,far greater than the finest diamonds,more precious than the purest gold,better than all the riches,and treasures,in the whole world,both possessed,and lost.

God said,do not be deceived.

The person that endures temptation,and does not play upon it,beats it,and does not sin,they shall receive a crown of life,which is not a reward for some and not others,for it is given to all who love Jesus,and is eternal life,and God warns us that if we are tempted,and enticed,and sin,it leads to death,do not be deceived,I repeat,do not be deceived.

If the world cannot get away with sin,then the saints cannot get away with it even more,and if you hold unto sin and do not want to get rid of it,you are in the position of losing you soul,for it leads to death.

Do not be deceived.

The crowns are given to all the saints,for the uncorruptible crown is given to all the saints,for there will be no corrupted saint in heaven.

The crown of righteousness is given to all the saints,who love His appearing,so of course it applies to all saints,for they want to be with Jesus.

The crown of life is given to all saints,for it is given to all who love the Lord,which no one can be in heaven unless they love the Lord.

Some say there are a reward,and some will receive them,and some not,whichever ones they receive,or do not receive,and not pertaining to eternal life,but they are given to all the saints,and do pertain to eternal life,for if you do not receive the uncorruptible crown,then you are corrupted,so how can you be saved,and if you did not receive the crown of righteousness,you did not love Jesus' appearing,and you did not put on the righteousness of Christ,then how are you saved,and if you did not receive the crown of life,you did not love Jesus,so how are you saved.

If they are a reward,and does not pertain to eternal life,will an angel announce before the saints in heaven,attention all saints,welcome to your first day in heaven with your glorified bodies,they feel good don't they,so get used to it for they are yours for eternity,and they never have to be washed.

All saints who love the Lord,loved His appearing,and is uncorrupted,report to the west wing.

All saints who did not love the Lord,did not love His appearing,and was corrupted,report to the east wing,but hey at least you have salvation.

That will not happen,so the crowns are given to all saints,and applies to eternal life,and not a reward that some might get,and some might not get.

And God said,you hold unto sin,it beings forth death,do not be deceived.

Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Which this is a good message seeing that so many people that say,I am chosen,hang unto sin,which this is by physical observation,and not hearsay,or a rumor,or heard it through the grapevine,one guy they call the million dollar Mike,that is stingy for money,and heaps it to himself,and likes giving the ladies a hug at Church,and holds unto those things,but in that position he is saved,when God said do not be deceived.

But there is no arguing I suppose,because they will say that OSAS,so they will get rid of all sin before they depart from this earth,but then they have this to contend with,for when they did hold unto sin,at that time they were not led of the Spirit,they were in the position of receiving death of the soul,they erred from the truth,and they were not converted,which means for a period they were not right with God,and lost their relationship with Christ,for they were fleshy,so if it is OSAS how could they ever obtain that position,when they should always be right with God for spiritual salvation at all times,which then that would open up the possibility that it is not OSAS.

Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully(hold unto sin,and not give it up) after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins(the blood of Christ cannot wash it away),
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning(if they actually do repent of their sins,and do not want sin,and go for a time,but then go back to the sins,which some did not actually give up sin when they confessed Christ).
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Tell me a story--will ya, will ya
A real good story, I won't leave till ya
Spill your guts old man
Leave out any secrets, hiding in the closet.

Any skeletons, and all your other sins
Any skeletons, in the closet

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

But they will ignore scriptures,and click their heels three times,and say there's no thing like faith alone,there's no thing like faith alone,there's no thing like faith alone.

I know some people before they read the post,and click on it,will probably think,now what does this numbskull got to say.

I know the world is going to end isn't it??

i pray you did not break anything.
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I agree,, It can be rough, Many do not realize God is not like our parents, Who are not perfect.. And some worse than others.

It takes some time to realise when he chastens you, He knows the exact thing he needs to do to get our attention.. and never acts out of anger..
my reply to your post for some reason has included a post above your quote and this one is doing the same.
Just so you know I have not added it so no idea why it was added and also added to this post.
 

BillG

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Join the crowd bro...My dad was killed when I was three...had three abusive steps dads and one of them tried to kill my brother and I for the Social Security checks.......may God have mercy on them.....One who was particularly abusive I wrote a letter to and witnessed of JESUS and forgave him....now I pity him and his lost state!
Very hard my friend.

I spent years being sexually abused by my foster dad. I too forgave.

God bless you my friend
 

BillG

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I sinned this morning. I got frustrated with something that wouldn't work properly, and 2 swears popped outta my mouth. :( Lord, please forgive me for swearing. Amen.

See how easy it is to ask forgiveness? ;) :eek:
You potty mouth you.
 

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What what??? You disagree with me.

Excuse me for 10 whilst I cry and throw a tantrum :cool:

What I was trying to say is that people who have had negative experiences of discipline will relate to God as a harsh God.

Discipline in my childhood ranged from being called things I wouldn't call my worst enemy, to slaps and fists to my face and the buckle of the belt being used, this was the case for even the minor offence committed.

That's the type of discipline I meant. It took me a long long time to believe that God would not be like to me.

As for your post with this I agree.
And look at you now with a heart of gold! I say that sincerely...

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Very hard my friend.

I spent years being sexually abused by my foster dad. I too forgave.

God bless you my friend
I know of quite a few believers who went through similar circumstances......seems that those who are of the devil like to persecute the heirs of salvation.....
 
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Originally Posted by blue_ladybug

I sinned this morning. I got frustrated with something that wouldn't work properly, and 2 swears popped outta my mouth. :( Lord, please forgive me for swearing. Amen.

See how easy it is to ask forgiveness? ;) :eek:


You potty mouth you.

We need to "purge" her from our midst. I say "burn the bug"!...lol
 

Magenta

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my reply to your post for some reason has included a post above your quote and this one is doing the same.
Just so you know I have not added it so no idea why it was added and also added to this post.
You can always edit it out before posting. You must have clicked the multiple post icon...