Three Days and Three Nights

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The New Testament Church

Had Jesus Christ kept the Passover on the wrong day, how could He still be our Savior?
Could He be a Lamb without blemish?


Christ instructed the Apostle Paul about the symbols that had been changed on that last Passover
before His crucifixion (Matthew 26:26-30; Luke 22:15-20). Paul explained to the Corinthians that
Christ was our Passover. Notice 1 Corinthians 5:7: “Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may
be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us.”

Paul further explains the Passover in 1 Corinthians 11:23. “For I have received of the Lord that which
also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread.”

Paul and God’s people at that time were to eat the bread and drink the wine. When? On “the same night
in which he Christ was [betrayed]” (verse 23): the beginning part, the evening of the 14th.

Again, the time setting is the evening of the 14th—the night Jesus was betrayed by Judas.
Paul goes on to explain the changed symbols. “And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said,
Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same
manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood:
this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me” (verses 24-25).

There can be no doubt that what Paul is talking about is the Passover Christ kept with His disciples.
Paul instructed God’s Church to keep the Passover at the same time and the same way that Christ
kept it. It was to be kept in remembrance of Christ.

Now notice the next verse which makes it very plain. “For as often as ye eat this bread,
and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come” (verse 26).

Some assume that, since Christ was crucified on the afternoon of the 14th, the lamb must have been
slain in the afternoon of the 14th in the Old Testament and that the Passover meal must have been
that night on the 15th.

The night Christ was betrayed, which He plainly called the Passover, they ate the bread and drank
the wine for what? To “show the Lord’s death till he come”! Paul’s group followed that example
precisely. In the New Testament, Christ changed the symbols, not the day.

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The Church After the Apostles
But what about after the time of Christ and the New Testament apostles?

Is there any proof that the Church after the apostles kept the Passover on the 14th?
On page 141 of Eusebius Ecclestical History, it mentions that Polycarp went to Rome to discuss
with Anicetus, the head of the Roman church, a topic concerning the day of the Passover.

Polycarp had been instructed by the apostles and had been appointed head of the Church at Smyrna
by the apostles. Eusebius writes that “he [Polycarp] always taught what he had learned from the
apostles,what the Church handed down and what is the only true doctrine.” He mentions there was
considerable discussion about the difference of opinion concerning the Passover:

“The churches of all Asia guided by a remoter tradition supposed that they ought to keep the 14th day
of the moon for the festival of the Savior’s Passover.” This was around a.d. 154, when Polycrates,
who followed Polycarp, stated, “We observe the exact day: neither adding, nor taking away.”

Notice they kept the 14th day for the Passover. So here is historical evidence that the apostles and
the New Testament Church kept the Passover on the 14th, also indicating there was still controversy
on which day to observe it, the 14th or the 15th.

Remember, the Jews kept it a day later than Christ, and later Jewish converts could have brought
this controversy into the New Testament Church when they were converted to Christianity.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartodecimanism
Many have heard of what is called the “quartodeciman controversy.” Quarto means four,
and deciman means ten; together that totals 14.

In the early New Testament Church, after Christ died, there arose this quartodeciman controversy.
The Christians who were keeping the 14th Passover were called into question about their beliefs.

It appears that the Jews began to make division concerning the 14th or the 15th Passover observance.
There is evidence that this movement began right after the fall of Jerusalem, and the Jews could no
longer offer a temple sacrificial lamb on the evening before the 15th because the temple had been
destroyed. The Jewish passover at that point became exclusively a 15th of Nisan Passover.
It is still that way today. the Passover Christ kept with His disciples was the 14th.


Notice again in 1 Corinthians 11:23: “For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered
unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread.”
This is the day the Apostle Paul taught Christians to observe the Passover.

the night Jesus Christ observed His last Passover was on the 14th! the traditional Jewish Passover
(15th observance), is traditions of men, which are contrary to the truth of God.

The Apostle Paul in Galatians 2 soundly and publicly rebuked Peter and the other Jews for making
the Gentiles Judaize by following the tradition of the Jews in place of the teachings of God.

Jesus, without reservation, totally rejected the Jews’ religious traditions, because in holding
to their traditions, they rejected and set aside the commandments of God. (Mark 7:7-9).

The Passover only pictures the death of Christ for the remission of sins that are past (Romans 3:25).
The seven days of Unleavened Bread following Passover picture to us the complete putting away of sin

To what extent shall we put away sin? Not partially, but completely! And, as leaven is also a type of sin
(1 Corinthians 5:8)—leaven puffs up, and so does sin, and seven is God’s number symbolizing completeness
 
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I count all of Saturday being a requirement to fulfill the period of
3 days and 3 nights. That would mean all 12 hours of the daytime of Saturday.
I agree

That would mean Jesus rose sometime after Saturday. Thus to keep claiming a Saturday
for when He rose is to leave logic and instead shows an attempt to keep a tradition of men.
He arrose after the Sabbath, and before the first day of the week.

Twilight: this is an interesting time of night to day, or day to night.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight

from my post #322


-Wednesday 14 th passover day<---- Buried just before sunset,
tomb sealed marks clock, the phrase [in the earth] and,
[between] dusk and dark[at twilight]


start clock, ending of the 14th, after tomb is sealed

-Thursday 15 th<---- First day of Unleavened Bread
one evening , one morning.

-Friday 16 th <---- Preparation day for the weekly Sabbath

second evening, second morning.

-Saturday 17th <---- In the grave both evening and morning

third evening, third morning.

Resurrection happened just as Sabbath ended,
[between] dusk and dark he arrose, exactually [between] the days,
makes 3 days 3 nights, if Gods word is to stand.


the rock did not have to be removed for God to raise up our Christ

This is exactly 72 hour just as Christ said it would be (Mat 12:39-40)
 
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Someone new looking in may know of examples.
 

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RStrats,
Do you believe JESUS is SOVEREIGN over all created and temporal things?
I'm wondering if you've had a chance think about that and if maybe you can answer that question?
 

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miknik5,

re: "Do you believe JESUS is SOVEREIGN over all created and temporal things?"


That's an issue for a different topic. Perhaps you could start one.
 

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miknik5,

re: "Do you believe JESUS is SOVEREIGN over all created and temporal things?"


That's an issue for a different topic. Perhaps you could start one.
No. I'll wait for you to decide to answer

either here on this thread
or there on that other forum under the same named thread

it was a very easy question

Is JESUS Sovereign over all things?
yes?
or no?
 

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Is JESUS Sovereign over all things?
1 Corinthians 15:27 (KJV)
For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put
under him, it is manifest that he is excepted which did put all things under him.

Hebrews 2:8 (KJV)
Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under
him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

1 Corinthians 15:28 (KJV)
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject
unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
 

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And yet RStrats is having a very hard time committing himself to this TRUTH
 

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He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.




what would "inherit all things" entail ?


 

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I agree



He arrose after the Sabbath, and before the first day of the week.

Twilight: this is an interesting time of night to day, or day to night.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight

from my post #322


-Wednesday 14 th passover day<---- Buried just before sunset,
tomb sealed marks clock, the phrase [in the earth] and,
[between] dusk and dark[at twilight]


start clock, ending of the 14th, after tomb is sealed

-Thursday 15 th<---- First day of Unleavened Bread
one evening , one morning.

-Friday 16 th <---- Preparation day for the weekly Sabbath

second evening, second morning.

-Saturday 17th <---- In the grave both evening and morning

third evening, third morning.

Resurrection happened just as Sabbath ended,
[between] dusk and dark he arrose, exactually [between] the days,
makes 3 days 3 nights, if Gods word is to stand.


the rock did not have to be removed for God to raise up our Christ

This is exactly 72 hour just as Christ said it would be (Mat 12:39-40)
I don't want to be 'nit-picking here but it was indeed a 'very fine line between sunset and the rising of sunday morning, which as you describe was 'twilight.
When we look back at the burial we see that Joseph of Aramethia and Nikodemus had to 'hasten the burial to get it completed before sunday Lk 23v52-54. Consequently He would also rise before sunday 3 days later !!! A sunday resurrection is not an option as some try to cut it.
 

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Beta, you are under the impression that the physical (and lifeless and empty) shell of CHRIST's body had to FIRST be physically laid in the tomb

which is why your 3 day (starting from that point) is a miscalculation

THE SPIRIT left (and descended ) when JESUS breathed HIS last

that is where the 3 days/3 nights in (the tomb of) the earth should be calculated
 
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Not to overlook the portion where "darkness" fell upon the earth

When it shouldn't have been "dark"
 

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sorry, correction to above post ---it should read
buried before sunset and also risen before sunset or during twilight, but in any case BEFORE the next day had started. To 'draw on' does not mean it was already the next day.
 

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sorry, correction to above post ---it should read
buried before sunset and also risen before sunset or during twilight, but in any case BEFORE the next day had started. To 'draw on' does not mean it was already the next day.
Still doesn't change the TRUTH that it was until THE SPIRIT had left HIS BODY that HE was in the "belly of the earth" and not when HIS lifeless flesh was taken down and placed in the tomb
 

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Is GOD's SPIRIT different from CHRIST's SPIRIT? Is THE SON separate.from THE FATHER

Was THE SPIRIT in CHRIST's precrucified BODY the same SPIRIT in HIS post and resurrected BODY?
 

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Beta, you are under the impression that the physical
(and lifeless and empty) shell of CHRIST's body had to FIRST be physically laid in the tomb

which is why your 3 day (starting from that point) is a miscalculation

THE SPIRIT left (and descended ) when JESUS breathed HIS last

that is where the 3 days/3 nights in (the tomb of) the earth should be calculated

so everyone saw him in the middle of the day be killed, you say starting clock.

exactualy 3 days 3 nights would be the same time of day three days later.

so why did everyone not see him rise at the middle of the day?
 

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In which case is HE SOVEREIGN over all things?
 

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dear miknik, people are alltogether TOOOO spiritual !
first learn to cope with the physical---then the spiritual 1Cor 15....it is a 'template for the spiritual, ignore it and you grope in the dark. God procedes in orderly fashion.
 

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so everyone saw him in the middle of the day be killed, you say starting clock.

exactualy 3 days 3 nights would be the same time of day three days later.

so why did everyone not see him rise at the middle of the day?
Everyone saw HIM "give up THE GHOST" when HE breathed HIS last

not everyone saw HIM rise because if I remember it is written HE showed HIMSELF to be alive to those whom HE chose to show HIMSELF to
 

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Has anything changed?

HE will manifest HIMSELF to those whom HE chooses to manifest HIMSELF to