Three Days and Three Nights

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rstrats

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JaumeJ,

re: "How did you get that? I believe Yeshua was crucified on the sixth day..."


Because you said: " I can only allow myself the common sense Yahweh gives me in counting three days and three nights, and that would have to inlude each one of them.." How is a third night included?
 
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How did you get that? I believe Yeshua was crucified on the sixth day because it is written He had to be taken down before sunset because it was to be the Sabbath. At least this is what I have always thought.
I've always thought that too until recently when I just couldn't understand how Jonah, in the belly of the fish, could relate in time as Christ being in the grave. Where the difference came, I found that there were 2 Sabbaths observed by the Jews during the week of Christ's crucifixion. One Sabbath was the annual (Passover) and the other was the weekly 2 days later. See post #50 where I describe this in more detail. I can endorse scripture if that will help, but it needs to be coupled with the Jewish calender which some might reject. Just sayin
 
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JaumeJ

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First, what difference does it make? Man has mistranslated things in the Word for centuries without detecting the error, yet it makes no difference in what Yeshua did nor in our faith. Second, because one believes He was crucified on the sixth day does not mean He rose before three days and three nights. Third, it is quite possible it was not the Sabbath but the holy day of Passover, which is moveable regarding day of the week.
Man errs, Yahweh does not. If He says the Lord was in the belly of the earth three days and three nights, then He was. If it was Friday, then He rose on Monday, if it was Monday, He rose on Thursday. Faith tells me He was crucified and was in the earth three days, and He rose from the dead.
Leave the disputes to those who put their faith in intellectualisms, but keep your faith in the promises of Yahweh, fulfilled in Yeshua. All will be revealed when we are all together in the Kingdom, that is if it is important to eternity.


I've always thought that too until recently when I just couldn't understand how Jonah, in the belly of the fish, could relate in time as Christ being in the grave. Where the difference came, I found that there were 2 Sabbaths observed by the Jews during the week of Christ's crucifixion. One Sabbath was the annual (Passover) and the other was the weekly 2 days later. See post #50 where I describe this in more detail.
 

john832

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Is it possible 1 BC to the end of 1 AD is two years? 0 would neither augment nor diminish the time.
That does seem logical to me.
But it is not mathematical...

On the number line the difference between -1 and 1 is 2, here's how...

-1 to 0 = 1 and 0 to +1 = 1 so we have a unit between -1 and 0 and a unit between 0 and +1. Since there is no year zero, we go directly from -1 to +1. Only one unit. Units in this case are years. There is only one year between 1BC (-1) and 1AD (+1).
 

john832

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How did you get that? I believe Yeshua was crucified on the sixth day because it is written He had to be taken down before sunset because it was to be the Sabbath. At least this is what I have always thought.
Let me give you a little insight here, my friend...

Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

The "High Day" was the annual Sabbath of the First Day of Unleavened Bread. It occurred from sunset Wednesday evening to sunset Thursday evening.
 

JaumeJ

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If a person is born 2 BC when 1 AD is completed he is 3 years old.........then the math is wrong somewhere along theline. I believe it is because we are counting time and not units of hard goods. -1 bottle +1 bottle cancels out the first, but one year, counting it as before being minus does not function as a minus number, simply a designation of previous.......there 1 BC to 1 AD is two years.
 

john832

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First, what difference does it make? Man has mistranslated things in the Word for centuries without detecting the error, yet it makes no difference in what Yeshua did nor in our faith. Second, because one believes He was crucified on the sixth day does not mean He rose before three days and three nights. Third, it is quite possible it was not the Sabbath but the holy day of Passover, which is moveable regarding day of the week.
Man errs, Yahweh does not. If He says the Lord was in the belly of the earth three days and three nights, then He was. If it was Friday, then He rose on Monday, if it was Monday, He rose on Thursday. Faith tells me He was crucified and was in the earth three days, and He rose from the dead.
Leave the disputes to those who put their faith in intellectualisms, but keep your faith in the promises of Yahweh, fulfilled in Yeshua. All will be revealed when we are all together in the Kingdom, that is if it is important to eternity.
The problem with that is that we read...

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

This is very significant because we see a little later thtat He ascended to His Father on that day...

Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

And then a little later that day...

Joh 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Joh 20:20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
Joh 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
Joh 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
Joh 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
Joh 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
Joh 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

They could now touch Him. Why were they not to touch Him before?

Lev 23:9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Lev 23:12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
Lev 23:14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

The Wave Sheaf was cut loose from the earth at sunset at the close of Sabbath, prepared through the night and offered about 9:00am on the day after the Sabbath contained within the Days of Unleavened Bread. This Wave Sheaf offering was the shadow of Jesus Christ, perfect Offering given for us.

Here is an article you will find interesting...

Wave Sheaf -- What We Found

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
 

JaumeJ

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Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

This was touched upon. It could well be it was the eve of the Passover Sabbath, and that could have been any day of the week, but you will have to research this. The "last supper" is said to be a seder, however it could not have been part of the holy celebration the following day. I believe if some smart person who knows how to calculated the times were to look into it, he would be able to determine the year our Savior was crucifed easily with these variable factors included. This would indicate the crucifixion was on the fifth day. This would make the sixth day the sabbath of Passover, not to be confused with the Seventh Day Sabbath.
 
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First, what difference does it make? Man has mistranslated things in the Word for centuries without detecting the error, yet it makes no difference in what Yeshua did nor in our faith. Second, because one believes He was crucified on the sixth day does not mean He rose before three days and three nights. Third, it is quite possible it was not the Sabbath but the holy day of Passover, which is moveable regarding day of the week.
Man errs, Yahweh does not. If He says the Lord was in the belly of the earth three days and three nights, then He was. If it was Friday, then He rose on Monday, if it was Monday, He rose on Thursday. Faith tells me He was crucified and was in the earth three days, and He rose from the dead.
Leave the disputes to those who put their faith in intellectualisms, but keep your faith in the promises of Yahweh, fulfilled in Yeshua. All will be revealed when we are all together in the Kingdom, that is if it is important to eternity.
1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
 

john832

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Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

This was touched upon. It could well be it was the eve of the Passover Sabbath, and that could have been any day of the week, but you will have to research this.
No I don't have to research this, I already have. Good Friday to Sunday morning was another myth taught by Methodism. He was crucified on the Passover and buried just before, right about sunset on the Passover. Passover was on Wednesday of the year 31 AD and He was in the tomb or grave, three days and three nights. His resurrection was just before, right about sunset on the weekly Sabbath. Scripture bears this out.
 
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No I don't have to research this, I already have. Good Friday to Sunday morning was another myth taught by Methodism. He was crucified on the Passover and buried just before, right about sunset on the Passover. Passover was on Wednesday of the year 31 AD and He was in the tomb or grave, three days and three nights. His resurrection was just before, right about sunset on the weekly Sabbath. Scripture bears this out.
Exactly, according to what I have found. The reason I believe that is because the Bible confirms this clear back to the first Passover. The time sequence in uncanny to say the least. Time sequences in the Word of God does much to confirm the truth as we read through the centuries, and history of the Hebrew children. I not saying the history and times are all we need to see the truth. It is small part of the overall picture that none will never be able to fully comprehend until the resurrection.
 

JaumeJ

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This is truly fantastic news. Again, it is important because Yeshua did this for us all, my knowing every little detail is not, but if this is one of them, it is truly wonderful. Thank you so very much for this.


No I don't have to research this, I already have. Good Friday to Sunday morning was another myth taught by Methodism. He was crucified on the Passover and buried just before, right about sunset on the Passover. Passover was on Wednesday of the year 31 AD and He was in the tomb or grave, three days and three nights. His resurrection was just before, right about sunset on the weekly Sabbath. Scripture bears this out.
 
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To cut to the chase;

I have independantly proven that the crucifixion was on Wed 25 April AD31 Julian Calendar

this link comes to the same conclusions

http://www.4angelspublications.com/Books/GCC/Chapter 5.pdf

This gives us ALL OF Wed Nite + Thurs Nite + Fri Nite (plus part of saturday nite)

and (part of Wed day plus) Thurs Day + Fri Day + Sat Day

AS with Jonah it was 3 full days and 3 full nites which was why the bible says day and nite to confirm these are 24 hour periods
 

iamsoandso

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the Adam was told "in the day ye eat thereof ye will die",,,,this is so 2nd peter 3;8,,,,so Adam died at 970 years old,withholding 70 years of the first day of creation.,,,,the lord was in the belly,,three days and came out,,,,around the bce/ad conversion,and then was in the grave three days and then rose. sets of 24? or sets of 1000 divided into 4 watches both day and night?

so is it possible x and or x is in the belly of Mary 3 days or 3000 years. and then in hell three days or 3000 years? mabey we are just stuburn and need for one reason to make it conform to 24 hours as we see it.,,,,maybe Christ came and died at the end of the second eon and rose in the third?,,,the man,the second time mentioned was created when,,,gen. 1;31,,,the sixth day or sets of thousand?,,,no,in the fifth day after the morning,,,and before the evening of the sixth came the man.

a day is to a man the length of time the earth rotates in a circle in front of the sun. and a year is how many times the earth does this in a circle.,,,we say 365. every 29 1/2 days the moon orbits the earth exposing every side of it's self to the light,but only one side of it's self to the earth. and since there are only 360 days in the Hebrew calender every 6 or 7 years an additional month is added depending on the grain.

and the evening and the morning was the fourth day. and from henceforth the times and the seasons went from the morning of the third to the evening of the forth,the earth spinning off an day in time and 360 an year but the moon the younger only 12.2 times per cycle around the sun but before the morning of the third to the morning of the first is reckoned by the darkness and the light.

since you cannot see time before the third day,,,you cannot see time after the Resurrection,,,,,
 

rstrats

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JaumeJ,

re: "... because one believes He was crucified on the sixth day does not mean He rose before three days and three nights."


It does if Mark 16:9 in the KJV is correct when it says that He rose on the first day of the week.
 

rstrats

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Someone new looking in may know of some writing.
 
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To cut to the chase;

I have independantly proven that the crucifixion was on Wed 25 April AD31 Julian Calendar

this link comes to the same conclusions

http://www.4angelspublications.com/Books/GCC/Chapter%205.pdf

This gives us ALL OF Wed Nite + Thurs Nite + Fri Nite (plus part of saturday nite)

and (part of Wed day plus) Thurs Day + Fri Day + Sat Day

AS with Jonah it was 3 full days and 3 full nites which was why the bible says day and nite to confirm these are 24 hour periods
You have 4 nights
 
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what if I do? but I dont!!!

the resurrection happened BEFORE SUNRISE



so sat nite is not a full nite!
Your theory is flawed because you have four nights. You may think it does not count But, Jews consider part of a day as a whole day.
 

rstrats

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Laodicea,

re: "You have 4 nights"


He also has 4 days.