Three Days and Three Nights

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Jesus died at the ninth hour, there was still 3 hours left in that day, you can’t just wipe that off the map, so what are those three hours of being dead after the ninth hour that day ended at 6pm.
 
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No it did not...it shows whatever your interpretAtion of that sign...you will still end up counting part day/part night. Cos Jesus have risen early in the morning.
And Jesus died at the ninth hour with three hours left in that day
 
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Maybe a rewording of the OP will make my request a little clearer: Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a "discussion" with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently suggest that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows an example from the first century or before regarding a period of time that is said to consist of a specific number of days as well as a specific number of nights where the period of time absolutely doesn't/can't include at least a part of each one of the specific number of days and at least a part of each one of the specific number of nights?
Do you have anything that says it isn’t , you openly post gives no reason to why it’s not your just disputing that part of day is not Jewish idiom
 
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Ive read into about 5 or 6 pages of nothing but disputes and no example of what does the OP think it is nothing is given just dispute after dispute this thread is odd.

To dispute the six day crucifix one needs to show why it is not, if you can’t do that you don’t have a leg to stand on.
 
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I’m not going to try and find somewhere were you have stated your belief but if you didn’t then if your going to ask people to show why the believe in something then it’s proper to show what you believe is the correct days and nights it’s only fair.
 

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watcher2013,
re: "No it did not..."

But that is what this topic is about. Why would you post a video which deals with different issues?
 

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JamOn,
re: "Jesus died at the ninth hour, there was still 3 hours left in that day, you can’t just wipe that off the map..."

If you're addressing your comment to me, where have I done that?


re: "...so what are those three hours of being dead..."

I'd say they were three hours of being dead. What is your point in so far as it applies to this topic?
 

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JamOn,
re: "Do you have anything that says it isn’t , you openly post gives no reason to why it’s not your just disputing that part of day is not Jewish idiom."

Where have I done that?
 

rstrats

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JamOn,
re: "To dispute the six day crucifix one needs to show why it is not..."

And that is an issue for a different topic.
 

rstrats

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JamOn,
re: "I’m not going to try and find somewhere were you have stated your belief..."


If your comment is directed to me, where have I asked you to do that? And my beliefs have nothing to do with the ability for someone who believes the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week, and who thinks that the "heart of the earth" refers to the tomb, and who tries to explain the lack of a third night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech, to provide examples to support their assertion of commonality.
 

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Since it's been awhile, perhaps someone new visiting this topic may know of examples.
 

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Since it's been awhile, perhaps someone new visiting this topic may know of examples.
Well this is my first reply to this topic.. So you can call me New.. :) What examples are you seeking? Of what?
 
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Since it's been awhile, perhaps someone new visiting this topic may know of examples.
Examples and foundations as purposes differ. They can lead to different goals . One can satisfy the need of the flesh and other the unseen Spirit. by faith we can seperate the things of God from those of men .he gives us those tools so we can rightfully divide. So that we can hear what he says to the churches giving us his understanding from with our hidden treasure .

What's the purpose of the parable? What does three represent? etc.

Depending on the foundation and end goal . . like for instance. What is meant by the "heart of the earth".? Is it in reference to being corrupted as in pains to be changed into the incorruptible?

There are many things to consider if we are to find the mysteries hid in that parable . Using Jonas as a comparison to find the gospel understanding. The last sign and wonder which was fulfilled in the Son of man.. .

Seeing the three days and nights were not underground or even in the breathable tomb there must be other parts of the one demonstration. Like the cross remnant of that three day demonstration or the opening in the garden Gethsemane when he began to feel the wrath of the father unto death (not dead never to rise) performed alone with the Son and the father the work of one. . How does that affect the other two parts as one work of one faith ? ETC .

From my experience I would say the dividing wall is in how men interpret the word "hell'. Some would use it a false tool of some sort of boast that they had good wisdom and made the wise choice condemning other who did not hold to the same opinion. Like if you do not obey you will go to hell and never get out. A wile of devil the accuser of the brethren. .
Christians yoked with Christ have a lighter load of hell a living sufferings.

Once the word hell is defined properly then the rest of the doctrine falls into place. Then the turning thing right-side up inspired from heaven can do its work . . . .not after the oral traditions of mankind.

Some say its a living work mankind performs after we take our last breath. We suffer with Christ today If we mix faith in the things seen and heard.

But the bible teaches us that along with the temporal flesh subject to the letter of the law death, it returns to the lifeless faithless dust and the same letter of the law exposes the temporal spirit subject to the letter returns to father who gave it as law.

The letter of the law death will be cast into the judgment of God never to rise and condom to death through corruption ever again .

Why a person would desire another suffer for ever and ever? That's a mystery not know .At least not of myself.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
 

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Adstar,
re: "What examples are you seeking?"

See post #987.
 

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garee,
re: "What is meant by the 'heart of the earth'?"

For the purpose of this topic it is the tomb. See post #987.
 

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watcger2013,
re: "You are basing your question on what."

OK, let me repeat once again:

The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights in the "heart of the earth"

There are those who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.

Of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.

A 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.

To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who say that the Messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language.

I simply wonder if anyone who falls in that group of believers could provide examples to support that belief; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime and/or no part of a night time could have occurred.

So again, the topic request for examples is with regard to the commonality of forecasting a daytime or a night time when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could occur.



re: "Are you talking about Jesus death and Resurrection?..."

No, at least not for the purpose of this topic.
Ok i do not fall into this group of believers.. I believe Jesus spent 3 nights and 3 days in the tomb.. 72 hours in total.. from sundown wednesday to sundown saturday..
 

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In order to fulfill the prophecy of our Savior being crucified and being raised on the third day, we should use the system employed then and there by Israel since before Moses.

He was crucified on the day before a Sabbath Which Sabbath is a question for we are not certain whether it was the Seventh Day Sabbath or the Sabbath of Passover, a special Sabbth. Anyone who knows, bby all means let me know.

It was not lawful for the Jews to leave His Body on the cross during a Sabbath, so He was taken down and to the tomb as soon as He was dead to be buried before sundown.

The Lunar counting of days would be the first night and the day were the first of three days. The next nightfall an d day were the second day, and the following night and day cycle would have been the third day. To fulfill prophecy He would have been raised after dawn the third day. Now you tell all which day our Savior was raised, I know, do you_
 

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JaumeJ,

Your comments deal with issues for a different topic. Perhaps you could start one.
 

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Adstar,
re: "...i do not fall into this group of believers.."

OK, you are the only one who seems to understand what this topic is about.
 
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garee,
re: "What is meant by the 'heart of the earth'?"

For the purpose of this topic it is the tomb. See post #987.
Hi thanks.

It would seem you are using tomb to represent "heart of the earth." as to how the earth is used . It is corrupted like a hard heart and is said to moan as in suffering. That I think could apply as part of the reasoning. .

The demonstration was three days and nights.

Many time three is used to denote the end of the matter. The demonstration of the lamb slain from before the foundation of the world could of been performed in a minute. .. twinkling of the eye. Just like creation. three days seems to give the complete view or revelation.,

The first part of the three part demonstration began in the garden. It was then moved to the cross and then the tomb .Its all one work, between the Father and Son .