TIme has change .Why ?

[Isdaniel]

Exo 12:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,
Exo 12:2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.
Exo 12:3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:
Exo 12:4 And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.
Exo 12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
Exo 12:6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

During their captivity, gentile Rome did not want to have anything in common with the children of Israel. The former had named their months after their many gods (this was and still is a polytheistic society). January, for example, takes its name from the Roman god Janus, who had faces both at its back and its front; the back of the face looked back at the old year, while the frontal face looked into the new year. Yet the Biblical first month is not Janus, but Nisan! The 12th month is not December but Adar (Esther 3:7). Tebeth is the tenth month (Esther 2:8), and not October. Sivan is the third month, and not March (Esther 8:9). Ethanim is the seventh month, and not July (Julius Caesar). 1 Kings 8:2.

Est 2:8 So it came to pass, when the king's commandment and his decree was heard, and when many maidens were gathered together unto Shushan the palace, to the custody of Hegai, that Esther was brought also unto the king's house, to the custody of Hegai, keeper of the women.

Est 3:7 In the first month, that is, the month Nisan, in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot, before Haman from day to day, and from month to month, to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar.

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]The Birth of Christ[/h]This research paper was design to edify anyone with an open mind and to help understand the birth of Christ. -Author: WebMaster

Research broken down into 4 steps:

Step 1 - Will give us an idea of which month is the first month of the Biblical calendar. With this in mind, it will help us calculate the month of Christ's birth.

Step 2 - Shows that Christ is six months younger than his cousin John the Baptist. Elisabeth (John the Baptist's mother) became pregnant during the time her husband served as priest. We will link this time to the Old Testament to find out what month that is.

Step 3 - Knowing the time of year that both Mary and Elisabeth (cousins) became pregnant, we then calculate the birth of Christ.

Summary - This will summarize the entire research.

[h=3]1. The beginning of the Biblical year[/h]A. Our modern day calendar starts with January which is the middle of winter. According to history, late March to early April is the first of the year, which is around springtime.

March (month), third month of the Gregorian year, according to the present calendar. March was the first month of the Roman year, named for Mars, the god of war. In England, until the Gregorian calendar was adopted in 1752, March was considered the first month with the legal year beginning on March 25. -MS Bookshelf 98

Months names and definition (according to the American Heritage Dictionary):

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[TD]Month[/TD]
[TD]Latin Name[/TD]
[TD]Definition[/TD]
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[TD]September[/TD]
[TD]septem[/TD]
[TD]Seven[/TD]
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[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]October[/TD]
[TD]octo[/TD]
[TD]Eight[/TD]
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[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]November[/TD]
[TD]novem[/TD]
[TD]Nine[/TD]
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[TD]December[/TD]
[TD]decem[/TD]
[TD]Ten[/TD]
[/TR]
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This table shows that December (the last month of our modern day calendar) is really the 10th month of the Biblical calendar. This will then make January and February the 2 last months of the year. March will then fall in the place of the first month of the year.

 

[Isdaniel]

B. According to Biblical times, the first month given to the Children of Israel is called Abib or which is now called Nisan in the Hebrew Calendar. This month is a remembrance to them when God took them out of the land of Egypt and into the Promise Land. This they would have to do every year as the Passover.

Exodus 13:4
This day came ye out in the month Abib.

Exodus 23:15
Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty

Exodus 34:18
The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib : for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.

Leviticus 23:5
In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

Deuteronomy 16:1
Observe the month of Abib, and keep the passover unto the LORD thy God: for in the month of Abib the LORD thy God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.

With our modern day calendar, Easter and Passover are celebrated during the months of late March and early April.

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]2. Linking the births to the Old Testament[/h]Now having an idea of when the new year begins, throughout the course of time, Christ was born at a certain time of the year. Christ was 6 months younger than John "The Baptist" (his cousin). John was conceived around the time when his father Zacharias completed his term in office as priest.

Luke 1:5
There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.

This chart shows us how King David divided up the priest's office accordingly, starting from the beginning of the year to the end. Zacharias served the 8th term of the year, which was around the time of early July.

[h=5]Table 1: Order of High Priest's Offices and Courses assigned by King David[/h][TABLE="width: 500"]
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[TD]Month[/TD]
[TD]Order[/TD]
[TD]1st to 2nd Week[/TD]
[TD]Order[/TD]
[TD]3rd to 4th week[/TD]
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[TD]March[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Jehoiarib[/TD]
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[TD]April[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Jedaiah[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Harim[/TD]
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[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]May[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Seorim[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Malchijah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]June[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Mijamin[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Hakkoz[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]July[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Abijah[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Jeshua[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]August[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Shecaniah[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Eliashib[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]September[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Jakim[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Huppah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]October[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Jeshebeab[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Bilgah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]November[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]Immer[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]Hezir[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]December[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]Aphses[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Pethahiah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]January[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]Jehezekel[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]Jachin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]February[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]Gamul[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Delaiah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]
[TD]March[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Maaziah[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


These verses will define the table above.

I Chronicles 24:
1. Now these are the divisions of the sons of Aaron. The sons of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]3. Christ's age difference to John the Baptist[/h]The angel appeared unto Zacharias during his ministration to let him know his wife will bear him a son.

Luke 1:13
But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

Elisabeth became pregnant after her husband Zacharias executed his term as priest. In the 6th month the Angel appeared unto Mary to also give her a message …

Luke 1:
24. And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,

25. Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.

26. And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

27. To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

28. And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

29. And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

30. And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

31. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33. And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

34. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

35. And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

36. And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

37. For with God nothing shall be impossible.

38. And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

* The biblical term "to know" someone means to have laid with that person.
Example: According to Matthew 1:24-25 Mary was a virgin until Christ was born.

Matthew 1:
24. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

25. And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]4. Summary[/h]Here's a summary of all materials mentioned above.

The calendar used in the Bible starts around Spring time which is in the time period of late March to early April.

Knowing when the Biblical year starts, we see how King David divided up the priests office during his time. When Zacharias became priest, he served in the stead or in the same month of Abija (or Abia - which is called in the New Testament). This month was around early July (being the late 4th month of the Bible calendar).

Mary became pregnant 6 months after John was conceived. This will make Jesus 6 months younger than John the Baptist. Six months after John was conceived will be around the time of early January (being the late 10th month in the Bible calendar).

A normal pregnancy will last for 9 months. Nine months after Jesus was conceived will be around the time of early October (being the late 7th month in the Bible calendar).

Our modern day calendar is not accurate because of so many modifications, but it gives us an idea of the time when JESUS was born, which was around early October.

 

[Karraster]

Thanks for posting all this. Shows that we need to be careful about what (or who) we worship!

 

[Karraster]

Seems no one is debating that Christmas started in the Roman Catholic Church then spread to her daughters.



Knowing where it came from...is not an eye opener I don't know what is...

 

[Isdaniel]

Thanks for posting all this. Shows that we need to be careful about what (or who) we worship!

If persons will only study Daniel 7 :25

They will not be talking nonsense and worshiping God the wrong way

 

[Isdaniel]

Seems no one is debating that Christmas started in the Roman Catholic Church then spread to her daughters.

hmm I wonder if protestants and some sabbath Churches know this hmmm

 

[Isdaniel]

[video=youtube;-IyR6RZ49Co]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IyR6RZ49Co[/video]

 

[2Thewaters]

No need for all that,
The Census would not have been taken in harvest time
just after the harvest when people had money would make sense to have a census for everyone to travel to their birth city

they would in no way ever make them travel on the shortest days of the year.

 

[Karraster]

We live in the age of knowledge. If anyone wants to know it's not hard to find. I guess it comes down to how much the want to obey God and not society and mans traditions.

 

[Isdaniel]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Moses Law[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Ten Commandments[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Called "Law contained in ordinances"[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Called "the Royal law"[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]JAMES 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: [/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Written by Moses in a book[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]2 CHRON. 35:12 And they removed the burnt offerings, that they might give according to the divisions of the families of the people, to offer unto the LORD, as it is written in the book of Moses. And so did they with the oxen. [/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Written by God on stone[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]EXO. 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone,written with the finger of God.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]EXO. 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Placed in the side of the ark[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]DEUT. 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the arkof the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.[/FONT]​

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[TD]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Placed inside the ark[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]EXO. 40:20 And he took andput the testimony into the ark, and set the staves on the ark, and put the mercy seat above upon the ark: [/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Ended at the cross[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace. [/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Will stand forever[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]LUKE 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Added because of sin[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]GAL. 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Points out sin[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]ROM. 7:7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
ROM. 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Contrary to us, against us[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]COL. 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Not grievous[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]1 JOHN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and hiscommandments are not grievous.[/FONT]​

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[Isdaniel]

Then we have Colossians 2:16 which says let no one judge you in meat or drink, feast day, new moon or a Sabbath days. (plural) All these things just mentioned are called the ordinances that were practiced for sin, which is breaking one of the Ten Commandments of which the Lord's Sabbath is one. It is NOT a sacrificial law and was NOT written in the sacrificial law and was NEVER practiced when one sinned. But everything in Colossians 2:16 was practiced before the cross when one sinned. Besides these facts, Paul says in Colossians 2:14 that what is in verse 16 are the ordinances. The Strong's and Thayer dictionaries also inform us that the ordinances are the sacrificial law of Moses. You cannot take one of the Ten Commandments which God wrote in stone and say that it belongs to the Mosaic Law which was written on paper and was for sacrifices when one sinned. Thou shalt not murder and shedding the blood of a lamb are NOT the same thing! The Sabbath days in Colossians 2:16 are the sacrificial Sabbaths such as Passover Sabbath and the Day of Atonement Sabbath and five others which were added because of sin and which were practiced because of sin. The Lord's Sabbath was NEVER practiced when one sinned. Compare Colossians 2:16 and Ezekiel 45:17 which shows what was practiced to make reconciliation for sin. Here are two Bible Commentaries from Adam Clarke and Albert Barnes for expert support. Please read Colossians 2:16 for more on this passage.