TITHES

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Dino246

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Well, i have provided reference a tithing thing of money, course, pieces of silvers or a coin perhaps being conversion as a rule due to proximity
Nothing in the text supports the idea of "tithing your money". An oblique reference to money is a long way from scriptural support for Christians tithing money today.
 

fredoheaven

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Nothing in the text supports the idea of "tithing your money". An oblique reference to money is a long way from scriptural support for Christians tithing money today.
Umm, of course, we are no longer living in their world as much of the o.t. did tithe more on agricultural thing but the principle of giving the tenth is still there. The scripture proves that there is once a money thing for the tithe. Tithe is given for one thing to supply the needs of the Levites and the simple reason why agri and not money in their time is that they cannot eat money.
 

Dino246

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Umm, of course, we are no longer living in their world as much of the o.t. did tithe more on agricultural thing but the principle of giving the tenth is still there.
"Still there"? Still where? There is NO instruction in the NT for Christians to tithe. That something is obliquely mentioned does not make it supportive for the practice today.

The scripture proves that there is once a money thing for the tithe.
No it doesn't! Tithes were not payable on money... ever! Under the Law, they were paid on agricultural produce, and that produce could be sold for money for the convenience of travel... period. When the people got to the Temple, they were to use that money to buy goods again.

Tithe is given for one thing to supply the needs of the Levites and the simple reason why agri and not money in their time is that they cannot eat money.
Actually, there are three purposes to the tithe, all identified in the chapter you referenced.
 

fredoheaven

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"Still there"? Still where? There is NO instruction in the NT for Christians to tithe. That something is obliquely mentioned does not make it supportive for the practice today.


No it doesn't! Tithes were not payable on money... ever! Under the Law, they were paid on agricultural produce, and that produce could be sold for money for the convenience of travel... period. When the people got to the Temple, they were to use that money to buy goods again.


Actually, there are three purposes to the tithe, all identified in the chapter you referenced.
And there's no n.t. refrence that abolished tithe either.
 

fredoheaven

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"Still there"? Still where? There is NO instruction in the NT for Christians to tithe. That something is obliquely mentioned does not make it supportive for the practice today.


No it doesn't! Tithes were not payable on money... ever! Under the Law, they were paid on agricultural produce, and that produce could be sold for money for the convenience of travel... period. When the people got to the Temple, they were to use that money to buy goods again.


Actually, there are three purposes to the tithe, all identified in the chapter you referenced.
The conversion to money made it possible as tithe.
 

ResidentAlien

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Yes, the principle of giving of the tenth as referenced in the N.t.
Even if a principle from the OT is referenced in the NT, that doesn't necessarily mean it's intended for Christian instruction.

"By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,"—Hebrews 11:17

Maybe now we should think about offering child sacrifices. The message in this passage is faith, not child sacrifice.

"By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, lest he who destroyed the firstborn should touch them."—Hebrews 11:28

Maybe we should all keep the Passover and apply lamb's blood to our doorposts. Likewise, this also is about faith, not keeping the Passover.

The passage in Hebrews 7 isn't about Christians giving a tenth. It's about the superiority of Christ's priesthood over the Levitical priesthood.
 
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Oblio

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Maybe we should make up our own minds about these things and agree to disagree, instead of arguing all the time.
I really enjoy speaking about what I believe, and hearing about what others believe. I don't enjoy it when I'm around others who are determined to prove themselves right and if I don't agree with their way of seeing things, seem to take a sadistic delight in proving me wrong!
 

fredoheaven

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As far as i read many of the post that says, we have no hint in the n.t., the bible hints. As far as the the post is concerned that there's is no money is concerned, there is, as far there's no faith about the tithe, there is. The principle which we glean from father Abraham is that he tithe without a single commands from God. He did it by faith.
 

fredoheaven

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Even if a principle from the OT is referenced in the NT, that doesn't necessarily mean it's intended for Christian instruction.

"By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,"—Hebrews 11:17

Maybe now we should think about offering child sacrifices. The message in this passage is faith, not child sacrifice.

"By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, lest he who destroyed the firstborn should touch them."—Hebrews 11:28

Maybe we should all keep the Passover and apply lamb's blood to our doorposts. Likewise, this also is about faith, not keeping the Passover.

The passage in Hebrews 7 isn't about Christians giving a tenth. It's about the superiority of Christ's priesthood over the Levitical priesthood.
The o.t. were written for our learning Romans 15:4
 
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Today most every traditional valued interpretation of scriptures...is under attack ......by the new age religion group.
Thus the new interpretations, and newly written slanted versions of the bible published to support the new interpretations .....all since the 1960's.
 
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Oblio

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Religious demons of old promote flawed versions of God's word...from the 1500s...not really, but how does it feel?
 
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Religious demons of old promote flawed versions of God's word...from the 1500s...not really, but how does it feel?
Not a good feeling.
God must feel a great deal of disappointment with His creations.
I feel terrible to think that ANY human being will be tormented for eternity. Yes, including Hitler, Osama Bin......, the one in Africa and the like. Not that they don't deserve it.
Scripture tells us that ..only a few will find the path to eternal salvation.
 

Dino246

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Today most every traditional valued interpretation of scriptures...is under attack ......by the new age religion group.
Thus the new interpretations, and newly written slanted versions of the bible published to support the new interpretations .....all since the 1960's.
The Pharisees said the same kinds of things.

Tithing is not a "traditional valued interpretation" but a legalistic error promoted by the greedy, the ignorant, and those who refuse to examine the Scriptures to see what is true.
 
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Oblio

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Not a good feeling.
God must feel a great deal of disappointment with His creations.
I feel terrible to think that ANY human being will be tormented for eternity. Yes, including Hitler, Osama Bin......, the one in Africa and the like. Not that they don't deserve it.
Scripture tells us that ..only a few will find the path to eternal salvation.
Well, when I get to the New Jerusalem, I hope I'll see you there!
 
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The Pharisees said the same kinds of things.

Tithing is not a "traditional valued interpretation" but a legalistic error promoted by the greedy, the ignorant, and those who refuse to examine the Scriptures to see what is true.
How did they turn out? Do you think they are in Heaven?

Not a smart comparsion.