As far as knowing what your thinking you asked her why she prayed a prayer for salvation knowing that he gave testimony to being saved that is what I was refering to, while I do not know why she worded it in the way she did I know her well enough to know her intent. Now as for it being prophetic and whether or not it is or isn't that remains to be seen but It could have been. Prophesy is not always about proclaiming something often times especially for the church it is a form of building and strenthening what is already there this particular prayer may also have been for the salvation of him perhaps I misunderstood but I do think it was meant to be an anointing
Forgive me for being rational.
I read what people say and I also trust my reasonable mind in Christ to discern what the direction of words mean when I read them. So whilst I can ask you how you know my thoughts - and you can tell me that my words indicate what I am thinking and then you openly say that you know the author of the
contentious words (those words being contended over) you are not after all speaking about what I think - because if what I wrote is what I was thinking - then no need to change your mind about how you can tell me in your first response to myself what the
contentious words mean (those words being contended over) when you say:
Perhaps it was prophetic just not for the reason you think, sometimes prayers such as this are like pouring oil over your head it is an anointing prayer
In this second post to myself (as cited at the head of this comment now) you explain that you don't know what the author of the
contentious words (those words being contended over) mean in the sense that you may have misunderstood - but that remains to be seen as you say - and you predicate that on the idea that prophecy is not always about proclaiming something "
often times especially for the church it is a form of building and strengthening what is already there" - but you also say that
this prayer (meaning those words being contended over) - may be for his salvation - which you say may be a misunderstanding - but you do think that the prayer (meaning those words being contended over) was meant as an anointing.
Being rational is galling isn't it brother.
Thats why some brethren simply express positive assertions which when unchallenged or challenged may transport into prophetic speech. It is no different to sorcery - yet it is a directing others for God when we say
pray and then give them a form of words.
. Those who make such intentional speech - so as to direct a man to pray to the Father as an encouragement - yet predicate on undoubted substance of a meaning to the body and blood of Christ - must account for their words.
In the church I fellowship in they would be challenged by myself and I have done so many times and seldom found a clear meaning. Just endless flip flopping from one precept to another as though it were somehow difficult to understand that we can encourage one another - or else we can ask questions and then offer prayer - or else we can desire to bless a brother or sister. What we have no authority to do is set our speech into a prophetic guise being the authoritative basis - meaning to speak for God or to be led of the Holy Spirit - and then incite a mistaken claim which rationally could not be mistaken when we say:
"Now, with the Blood and Body of Jesus Christ I make Jesus Christ my Savior, Lord and KING - I have no other savior, lord or king, or god. I belong to Jesus Christ."
The gift of speaking in tongues goes hand in hand with the gift of prophecy when it is interpreted and the belief that we are led by the Holy Spirit when we say things in the Lord's name. How will we account for that unless we are willing to be tested? And how will we prevent others faltering because they nervously say that they are not worthy to receive a gift that is for children and babes in Christ - when we assert such strong claims that even includes their salvation?
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