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@Kavik
May you find Christ seated at the right hand of the Father and in peace come home to eternal salvation.
From a bard.
Accusation
Before this cause did once besought my youth,
Undoubted measure in measure full conceived.
Betided truth of nothing left for gain or hope,
Complete the fall that fall did make to press.
Refrain
Rise up my chosen child of hope rise up
Rise up, and in thy supplication flee to Christ.
If now to rise on wings of faith in Him.
In hope to fly on eagle’s wings.
Lament
Hail grief bespoken pressed and sorrow known.
In fixtures made of certain hope and purpose.
In shadows long and darkness passed away.
The mountains of thy hidden cart and all thy bed.
Thy valleys formed, thy seams thy sockets made.
Thy gaze that once did worship cause to draw.
In all thy labours pressed and tore His service due.
Retort
Hail Christ and all His works have crushed thy head.
Laid bear now you dread fame, laid bear your fables.
Cast down capricious naive your crown of shame.
Your kingdom set by fire within, consumed and lost.
This gain in Christ is full and all complete in Him.
Victory
Thy loss is gain beneath His feet, and gain for Christ.
Thy works undone, His light made light of life.
His light shines on and Truth is ample made.
The fruit of faith, eternal hope and hopes new song.
Jubilation
Rise up my chosen child of hope rise up.
Rise up and in thy supplication flee to Christ.
At last to fly and rise on wings of faith in Him.
By faith to fly on eagle’s wings.
Rhomphaeam
May you find Christ seated at the right hand of the Father and in peace come home to eternal salvation.
From a bard.
Accusation
Before this cause did once besought my youth,
Undoubted measure in measure full conceived.
Betided truth of nothing left for gain or hope,
Complete the fall that fall did make to press.
Refrain
Rise up my chosen child of hope rise up
Rise up, and in thy supplication flee to Christ.
If now to rise on wings of faith in Him.
In hope to fly on eagle’s wings.
Lament
Hail grief bespoken pressed and sorrow known.
In fixtures made of certain hope and purpose.
In shadows long and darkness passed away.
The mountains of thy hidden cart and all thy bed.
Thy valleys formed, thy seams thy sockets made.
Thy gaze that once did worship cause to draw.
In all thy labours pressed and tore His service due.
Retort
Hail Christ and all His works have crushed thy head.
Laid bear now you dread fame, laid bear your fables.
Cast down capricious naive your crown of shame.
Your kingdom set by fire within, consumed and lost.
This gain in Christ is full and all complete in Him.
Victory
Thy loss is gain beneath His feet, and gain for Christ.
Thy works undone, His light made light of life.
His light shines on and Truth is ample made.
The fruit of faith, eternal hope and hopes new song.
Jubilation
Rise up my chosen child of hope rise up.
Rise up and in thy supplication flee to Christ.
At last to fly and rise on wings of faith in Him.
By faith to fly on eagle’s wings.
Rhomphaeam
Just some practical insight when discussing….
When the “spiritual” man speaks to a “spiritual” man, they will clearly understand each other and agree.
When a “natural” man speaks to a “natural” man, they will clearly understand each other and agree.
When a “spiritual” man speaks to a “natural “ man, it will be as one with sight speaking to one born blind - the “natural “ man will not see no matter how hard he tries because as long as he remains “natural” then he remains blind.
(Ponder what Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3)
When a “spiritual” or “natural” man are both walking in their “flesh” they will NOT agree on anything and part ways as enemies having no compassion on each other - even though one can see and the other is blind.
It is our Father in Heaven’s Will that we all be born again “spiritual” man that know how to walk by the Spirit so we do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh which is FULL of pride.
So what’s my point?
When discussing, know what manner of “man” you are and know what manner of “man” you are speaking to and AVOID the flesh at all costs.
When the “spiritual” man speaks to a “spiritual” man, they will clearly understand each other and agree.
When a “natural” man speaks to a “natural” man, they will clearly understand each other and agree.
When a “spiritual” man speaks to a “natural “ man, it will be as one with sight speaking to one born blind - the “natural “ man will not see no matter how hard he tries because as long as he remains “natural” then he remains blind.
(Ponder what Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3)
When a “spiritual” or “natural” man are both walking in their “flesh” they will NOT agree on anything and part ways as enemies having no compassion on each other - even though one can see and the other is blind.
It is our Father in Heaven’s Will that we all be born again “spiritual” man that know how to walk by the Spirit so we do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh which is FULL of pride.
So what’s my point?
When discussing, know what manner of “man” you are and know what manner of “man” you are speaking to and AVOID the flesh at all costs.
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So much a perfect work restrains this carnal flesh,
Imprisons all, though inward shines.
If not the garment torn by willing cross to bear,
If all its purpose pressed conceive no blessing.
The end to dust return, our wait as sons of God.
In Christ, a child by faith cries, ‘Abba Father’
Awake! And fruitful make the time, a wait no more.
This barren form conceived by purpose known.
The summer heat, its flower scorched and lost.
Treasure now present, cry out, cry hope!
Let all the parts to cleave, if parts to form.
Once again corruption set aside, eternal vessel.
A faithful wait! The kingdom of our Lord.
Rhomphaeam
Imprisons all, though inward shines.
If not the garment torn by willing cross to bear,
If all its purpose pressed conceive no blessing.
The end to dust return, our wait as sons of God.
In Christ, a child by faith cries, ‘Abba Father’
Awake! And fruitful make the time, a wait no more.
This barren form conceived by purpose known.
The summer heat, its flower scorched and lost.
Treasure now present, cry out, cry hope!
Let all the parts to cleave, if parts to form.
Once again corruption set aside, eternal vessel.
A faithful wait! The kingdom of our Lord.
Rhomphaeam
Behold, the Lord does a NEW thing…the OLD is passed away and ALL things are new…. The Old is the “natural” man and the New is the “spiritual” man.
Our Lord puts New Wine (The Holy Spirit) in New Vessels…The Old man must be born again, become a New Creation even though it does not yet appear what we shall be…yet, we shall be like Him (Jesus Christ) when He appears.
And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old. And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish. But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.
Luke 5:36-39 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=Luke 5:36-39&version=KJV
The Old man will not desire the Holy Spirit or spiritual things, nor understand them.
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Christ said, If you are Ashamed of him, He will be ashamed of You before all of Heaven.
Mark and Luke share a similar Verse:
If anyone is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.
This is what bothers me when people, on a Christ Based Site, refuse to acknowledge their belief.
We [ALL] fall into the Category and Stipulation and Condition of this Verse [If anyone is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.]
Christ gives us a Parameter and Gage in how to View someone that falls into this Definition. And for someone to claim, they are being Judged unfairly by refusing to acknowledge their belief, NO, they are already JUDGING THEM SELF, and we just are Witnesses to it.
Mark and Luke share a similar Verse:
If anyone is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.
This is what bothers me when people, on a Christ Based Site, refuse to acknowledge their belief.
We [ALL] fall into the Category and Stipulation and Condition of this Verse [If anyone is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.]
Christ gives us a Parameter and Gage in how to View someone that falls into this Definition. And for someone to claim, they are being Judged unfairly by refusing to acknowledge their belief, NO, they are already JUDGING THEM SELF, and we just are Witnesses to it.
If I had been intending to post regarding the issue of being born again sister I would have posted this poem.
The meaning would have been clear in that regard:
I looked and saw the Potters’ clay.
Conceived in all its worth and purpose.
To comprehend such fine intent, was made.
Behold in all that beauty measured true,
The Workman did with skill to labour all.
Its lovely hues and colours set to good.
The outer garment bright, its form well hewn.
Its detail all mosaic laid and true it was
Then chanced to test its purpose known.
And in an instant hope was need and waste.
Such form by sin did break it all and loss.
Until that day would come when promised seed,
Being lifted up and pierced did bear the cost.
That in this earthen vessel, now death and ruin,
Receive that treasure which was priceless made.
Not now outward can its worth be known.
Nor eye can yet behold its beauty more.
The gift of life His very own is given now.
A broken vessel yet, the proof is set within.
The sweet aroma rises in hopes new song.
Rhomphaeam
I posted on another matter that lies at the heart of the contention in this thread. And neither is that matter of the contention to do with being empowered by the Holy Spirit or drinking new wine. No the first poem @#851 is another meaning entirely than the one you prophetically proclaim for us to have regard to.
The meaning would have been clear in that regard:
I looked and saw the Potters’ clay.
Conceived in all its worth and purpose.
To comprehend such fine intent, was made.
Behold in all that beauty measured true,
The Workman did with skill to labour all.
Its lovely hues and colours set to good.
The outer garment bright, its form well hewn.
Its detail all mosaic laid and true it was
Then chanced to test its purpose known.
And in an instant hope was need and waste.
Such form by sin did break it all and loss.
Until that day would come when promised seed,
Being lifted up and pierced did bear the cost.
That in this earthen vessel, now death and ruin,
Receive that treasure which was priceless made.
Not now outward can its worth be known.
Nor eye can yet behold its beauty more.
The gift of life His very own is given now.
A broken vessel yet, the proof is set within.
The sweet aroma rises in hopes new song.
Rhomphaeam
I posted on another matter that lies at the heart of the contention in this thread. And neither is that matter of the contention to do with being empowered by the Holy Spirit or drinking new wine. No the first poem @#851 is another meaning entirely than the one you prophetically proclaim for us to have regard to.
Oh @VARob, isn’t it silly or even foolish to argue over the rapture?
Isn’t knowing and loving God and loving people more needful than understanding the rapture?
What the “natural” man and the “spiritual” man concern themselves with is completely different.
One that can see will not argue, nor agree with one born blind because the one that can see understands the condition of the blind and will show compassion and tell them about Jesus Christ- the One that gives sight to the blind.
The “spiritual” man agrees with the “spiritual” man.
The “natural” man agrees with the “natural” man.
The “spiritual” man and “natural” man will NOT agree.
….and NO BODY (“spiritual” or “natural”) agrees, if they are operating in their Flesh.
Isn’t knowing and loving God and loving people more needful than understanding the rapture?
What the “natural” man and the “spiritual” man concern themselves with is completely different.
One that can see will not argue, nor agree with one born blind because the one that can see understands the condition of the blind and will show compassion and tell them about Jesus Christ- the One that gives sight to the blind.
The “spiritual” man agrees with the “spiritual” man.
The “natural” man agrees with the “natural” man.
The “spiritual” man and “natural” man will NOT agree.
….and NO BODY (“spiritual” or “natural”) agrees, if they are operating in their Flesh.
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