TONGUES is a precious gift from God
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Indeed KarynLouise, this internet is a medium where we cannot experience the 80% of communication which is non-verbal, I handle this by giving the benefit of the doubt, or asking for clarity, or ignoring the dork.
His own have a hunger and thirst for the things of God, such as yourself, and you know when the bitterness and arguing begin it is not by Holy Spirit and there are only 2 kingdoms.
The BDF can be rough, our Lafftur and others do a lot to lighten it up. it gets to where we seek out and follow the other spirit filled brothers and sisters.
His own have a hunger and thirst for the things of God, such as yourself, and you know when the bitterness and arguing begin it is not by Holy Spirit and there are only 2 kingdoms.
The BDF can be rough, our Lafftur and others do a lot to lighten it up. it gets to where we seek out and follow the other spirit filled brothers and sisters.
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I was on another forum where I saw 2 people arguing about something. They argued all day. The next day they where still arguing about the same thing. They argued for weeks about the same thing! As Mr. Spock would've said, there was no logical explanation for it!
Sometimes things are just stupid and not meant to be understood...I guess.
Sometimes things are just stupid and not meant to be understood...I guess.
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I have been working with Christian leaders/missions..
- In 'unreached regions' & 'restricted' countries.
- For many years..
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They request.. basic 'Bible Study Course & Training books' for new converts/ Christian workers.
- We send..'Bibles & Bible Study books/courses'..
- On 'Foundation Course/Study & important Biblical issues.'
- Very helpful..to those frontline leaders & workers.
- To equip/ train.. new converts & Christian workers.
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Those Christian missions/ministries are..
- Spirit-filled & accept/into..spiritual gifts.
- In 'unreached regions' & 'restricted' countries.
- For many years..
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They request.. basic 'Bible Study Course & Training books' for new converts/ Christian workers.
- We send..'Bibles & Bible Study books/courses'..
- On 'Foundation Course/Study & important Biblical issues.'
- Very helpful..to those frontline leaders & workers.
- To equip/ train.. new converts & Christian workers.
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Those Christian missions/ministries are..
- Spirit-filled & accept/into..spiritual gifts.
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Imagine that
.......... This Great End Time Deception we seem to be living through is separating His sheep, from the adversaries goats.
Reminds me of the part in Romans where people were given over to a depraved mind.
Imagine that
.......... This Great End Time Deception we seem to be living through is separating His sheep, from the adversaries goats.Reminds me of the part in Romans where people were given over to a depraved mind.
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I just had to go find these and post them....lol!
Mr. Spock, how will the "natural man" understand God's Holy Spirit's gift of speaking in tongues?
Mr. Spock, how will the "spiritual man" understand God's Holy Spirit's gift of speaking in tongues?
@Oblio - if I get in trouble, I'm going to say it's your fault! LOL! Not really, I take full responsibility!
Mr. Spock, how will the "natural man" understand God's Holy Spirit's gift of speaking in tongues?
Mr. Spock, how will the "spiritual man" understand God's Holy Spirit's gift of speaking in tongues?
@Oblio - if I get in trouble, I'm going to say it's your fault! LOL!
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I just had to go find these and post them....lol!
Mr. Spock, how will the "natural man" understand God's Holy Spirit's gift of speaking in tongues?
Mr. Spock, how will the "spiritual man" understand God's Holy Spirit's gift of speaking in tongues?
@Oblio - if I get in trouble, I'm going to say it's your fault! LOL! Not really, I take full responsibility!
Mr. Spock, how will the "natural man" understand God's Holy Spirit's gift of speaking in tongues?
Mr. Spock, how will the "spiritual man" understand God's Holy Spirit's gift of speaking in tongues?
@Oblio - if I get in trouble, I'm going to say it's your fault! LOL!
Not really, I take full responsibility!
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That's a fair line of questions and I feel Wansvic did a good job of describing it. I basically agree and will just add a few things because I was the one talking about praying an hour in tongues. You are invited to ask for as many details as you like and I will do my best to answer you honestly and without pettiness.
Speaking in tongues (the babbly 'unknown' kind) is something that once you have, you can do more or less at your choosing... otherwise it couldn't be done at inappropriate times... and there would be no reason for Paul to give instructions as to how they can CHOOSE to use what they have "decently and in order". There would be no reason to say those things if speaking in tongues could ONLY be done under direct control of God.
There would also be no reason for Jude 20 to instruct us to "build yourselves up (edifies himself per 1 Cor 14:4) on your most holy faith praying in the Holy Ghost (in the Spirit / speaking in tongues, per 1 Cor. 14:14) if building yourself up by praying in the Holy Ghost wasn't available to be done at your choosing.
If a person can choose to pray in the spirit and can also choose to sing in the spirit (per 1 Cor. 14:15) then the person can also choose how long they want to pray or sing in the spirit. In my case and in the circumstances I described, I chose to pray for an hour.
Prophecy, miracles and some other manifestations of the gifts of the spirit...for lack of better wording... are subject to being shut off by the potential speaker, but are not as easily turned on.
The amount that what I just said sounds far fetched will likely be in proportion to how much you already do (or don't) function in the things we're talking about.... prophecy, miracles, healings, tongues. If you don't have these things operating in you yet, then it probably all sounds distant. If you've received speaking in tongues already, then it's likely you've already discovered that you can pray in tongues even at times that you don't feel the power of God on you... And likely that you've discovered that miracles and prophesies are not as liberally available.
But it's not surprising if you manifest little or none of these if you haven't been encouraged to even ask for them or try.
My advice = if you see that God gave something good in the bible, you should at least ask him if he'd like to give that same ability to you.
Do you know someone who needs to be edified? If so, then perhaps you should ask for prophecy seeing there is a commandment to "Covet to prophesy" <-- (that's the action, not the receiving OF a prophecy) and prophecy edifies the church...per 1 Cor. 14:4(b)
Do you need edified, or built up on your most holy faith? Then you should ask God how to pray in the Spirit (Tongues)... per 1 Cor. 14:4(a)
Do you have infirmities and sometimes don't know what to pray? Then again, you should ask God to give you the ability to pray in the spirit so the spirit can help your infirmites with groanings that cannot be uttered (spoken with understanding) because WE do NOT know what to pray for as we ought, but the spirit does....per Romans 8:26&27
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
Speaking in tongues (the babbly 'unknown' kind) is something that once you have, you can do more or less at your choosing... otherwise it couldn't be done at inappropriate times... and there would be no reason for Paul to give instructions as to how they can CHOOSE to use what they have "decently and in order". There would be no reason to say those things if speaking in tongues could ONLY be done under direct control of God.
There would also be no reason for Jude 20 to instruct us to "build yourselves up (edifies himself per 1 Cor 14:4) on your most holy faith praying in the Holy Ghost (in the Spirit / speaking in tongues, per 1 Cor. 14:14) if building yourself up by praying in the Holy Ghost wasn't available to be done at your choosing.
If a person can choose to pray in the spirit and can also choose to sing in the spirit (per 1 Cor. 14:15) then the person can also choose how long they want to pray or sing in the spirit. In my case and in the circumstances I described, I chose to pray for an hour.
Prophecy, miracles and some other manifestations of the gifts of the spirit...for lack of better wording... are subject to being shut off by the potential speaker, but are not as easily turned on.
The amount that what I just said sounds far fetched will likely be in proportion to how much you already do (or don't) function in the things we're talking about.... prophecy, miracles, healings, tongues. If you don't have these things operating in you yet, then it probably all sounds distant. If you've received speaking in tongues already, then it's likely you've already discovered that you can pray in tongues even at times that you don't feel the power of God on you... And likely that you've discovered that miracles and prophesies are not as liberally available.
But it's not surprising if you manifest little or none of these if you haven't been encouraged to even ask for them or try.
My advice = if you see that God gave something good in the bible, you should at least ask him if he'd like to give that same ability to you.
Do you know someone who needs to be edified? If so, then perhaps you should ask for prophecy seeing there is a commandment to "Covet to prophesy" <-- (that's the action, not the receiving OF a prophecy) and prophecy edifies the church...per 1 Cor. 14:4(b)
Do you need edified, or built up on your most holy faith? Then you should ask God how to pray in the Spirit (Tongues)... per 1 Cor. 14:4(a)
Do you have infirmities and sometimes don't know what to pray? Then again, you should ask God to give you the ability to pray in the spirit so the spirit can help your infirmites with groanings that cannot be uttered (spoken with understanding) because WE do NOT know what to pray for as we ought, but the spirit does....per Romans 8:26&27
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
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Imagine that.......... This Great End Time Deception we seem to be living through is separating His sheep, from the adversaries goats.
Reminds me of the part in Romans where people were given over to a depraved mind.
Imagine that
.......... This Great End Time Deception we seem to be living through is separating His sheep, from the adversaries goats.Reminds me of the part in Romans where people were given over to a depraved mind.
The sheep and the goats and the wheat and the tares got to grow up alongside each other. Sheep will make more sheep, wheat will make more wheat.... and goats make goats and tares make tares.
The Lord will sort us all out when He returns. There is a day of Harvest and a day of reckoning all accounts. This is why I don't like arguing too much with others....I can't make a goat a sheep or a tare wheat. Just got to "plant the Seed of Christ" and hope it was good ground. Keep sowing!!
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Reminds me of the phrase, "you can't pray a Twinkie into a Kale Chip".
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