Transformational Marxism Has Influenced the Christian Churches

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Transformational Marxism Has Influenced the Christian Churches

God Made Man A Living Soul

Genesis 2: 7-9: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the
ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man
became a living soul.
8. And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he
put the man whom he had formed.
9. And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is
pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the
midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil."

When Adom and Eve Fell, Satan Got Some Dominion Over Man's Flesh;
Satan Lured Eve Into a Dialogue And Overthrew God's Patriarchal
Authority By Use of the Dialectic.

The Carnal Mind, The Mind of the Flesh, Wars Against the Spirit of God

"For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under
sin." Romans 7: 14

"Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject
to the law of God, neither indeed can be." Romans 8: 7

"For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is
life and peace." Romans 8: 6

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:for
they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they
are spiritually discerned." I Corinthians 2; 14

"For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the
flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot
do the things that ye would." Galatians 5:17

Another scripture is Mark 7: 20-23, which is a list of the behaviors
of the carnal mind of man, and what is meant in scripture by the flesh
can be said to be the same as that carnal mind, the human mind without
Christ in it.

"And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
21. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts,
adulteries, fornications, murders, 22. Thefts, covetousness,
wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride,
foolishness: 23. All these evil things come from within, and defile
the man .
Christ includes covetousness, deceit and pride as thoughts and
behaviors which defile a man, that is, thoughts and behaviors of the
carnal mind, which is the fleshly mind. Pride is a work of the flesh,
just as is adultery. To covet or have a very strong desire for money,
material things, and high self-esteem is a work of the flesh, as is
the use of deception, and pride is self-esteem. The carnal or fleshly
mind is the human mind which leans to its own understanding and is not
directed by God.

I John 2: 15-17: "Love not the world, neither the things that are in
the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in
him. 16. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the
lustof the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is
of the world. 17. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof:
but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."

You MUST Be Born Again In Order To Enter the Kingdom of God

"Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he
cannot see the kingdom of God....That which is born of the flesh is
flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." John 3: 3, 6

To become born again is a process, though this process can receive a
large boost all at once, and big boosts at other times in life. In
being born again we receive some of the mind of Christ in our carnal
mind, to replace it. "To whom God would make known what is the riches
of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in
you, the hope of glory:" Colossians 1: 27

When we are born again in the Spirit, we do not lose all of our carnal
or fleshly mind; it has to replaced ever day with the mind of Christ.
When we are born again we receive a love of the truth (II
Thessalonians 2: 10), and having the Holy Spirit within us, he does
not lead us to sin by the carnal mind. This is what Paul is talking
about in Romans 8, that when we are led by the Spirit, we are no
longer in condemnation for sin. But being in the Spirit and having
some of the mind of Christ is something that has to be renewed quite
often for many people..

But Transfomational Marxism, Knowing Only Man's Flesh, Has Invaded the Churches

Barry Soetoro a.k.a. Barack Obama is not the only Transformational Marxist, or Cultural
Marxist, or Political Correctionist running around influencing American society. Our institutions have been increasingly under influence from this movement since the fifties.

News with Views Store: Cultural Marxism: The corruption of America - DVD
"Cultural Marxism: The corruption of America - DVD..Produced by James Jaeger, the documentary shows how a group of Marxist theoreticians, calling
themselves The Frankfurt School, plotted the corruption and overthrow of non-Communist nations
by systematically undermining their cultures. Called Cultural Marxism, its goal is the use of
art, music, education, and media to condition people to accept the essential elements of
Marxism without identifying them as such. After a few generations of this conditioning,
Marxism becomes the new reality without a violent revolution and even without awareness
that a revolution has occurred."

"The film's opening statement by Pat Buchanan prepares the viewer for what is to follow:
"The United States has undergone a cultural, moral, and religious revolution. ... We are
two countries now. We are two countries morally, culturally, socially, and theologically.
Cultural wars do not lend themselves to peaceful co-existence. One side prevails, or the
other prevails. The truth is that, while we won the Cold War with political and economic
Communism, we lost the war with cultural Marxism, which now is dominant. Those of us who
are traditionalists, we are the counterculture."

Includes testimony from G. Edward Griffin, Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Edwin Vieira, and Ted Baehr. "

What this DVD calls Cultural Marxism is the same movement which has substantially taken over our institutions, especially government, education, the media and the big corporations that Dean Gotcher calls Transformational Marxism. Its stealth Marxism, and few people know how it developed out of the German Frankfurt School, who mixed Marx with Freud. The movement got its foot in the American door in 1950 with the publication of The Authoritarian Personality, by Theodor W. Adorno of the Frankfurt School. In 1956 a follower of Adorno, Benjamin Bloom, began the publication of his educational goal taxonomies, by which every public school teacher must be certified.

Dean Gotcher's audios and writings can be found at: Radio shows

2009 radio shows:
Diaprax
Abraham Maslow
Carl Rogers
Irvin Yalom
Theodor Adorno
Erick Fromm
Norman O. Brown
Herbart Marcuse.

Theodor Adorno posed as a personality and social psychologist, and with the possible exception of Frankfurter Herbert Marcuse, all these guys are psychologists or psychiatrists. Normon O. Brown's 1959 book, Life Against Death: The Psychoanalytic Meaning of History, and Herbert Marcuse's Eros and Civilization: A Philosophical Inquiry into Freud (1955) had a large influence upon the counterculture of the sixties and seventies. Adorno's The Authoritarian Personality (l950) had an indirect influence on the counterculture, and the work of Benjamin Bloom in transforming the educational system began to have increasing effects on the Baby Boomers, and others after the early sixties. But Gotcher spends most of his time in each broadcast talking about the basic difference between the
patriarchal paradigm underlying the word of God and the family as
opposed to the dialectic paradigm of Hegel, Marx and these 20th
century change agents. .

Transformational Marxism has also been called Political Correctness. Gotcher is convincing in pointing out that Transformational Marxism, as a more extreme form of humanism, knows only man's flesh, and has invaded the Christian churches. The dialectic process of attitude and belief change has also invaded all of our society, replacing "It is written," fact-based education, and absolute truth and absolute morality.

If Transformational Marxism, by use of the dialectic dialogue process,
can get you into dialogue, it can lead you to become so fixated
upon your carnal or fleshly mind that you no longer believe the moral
law. It can also lead you to believe false doctrines, so you no
longer love the truth. That is, the dialectic process can lead you
out of your faith in "it is written," the absolute truth and absolute
morality of God the Father and of Jesus Christ who is obedient to the
Father.

If the dialectic can lead you out of your faith, it does not
necessarily have to cause you to become an atheist. However,
Transformational Marxism comes out of an ideology which is atheist.
So are theories of Freud atheist, which are part of the Frankfurt
School of Transformational Marxism. American psychology is fixated
upon the carnal mind and there are no "Christian psychologists."

The dialectic church promotes group cohesiveness, so that church
members develop a relationship with the preacher and with the
congregation, which is a process making it possible for many to come
to accept the same false doctrines and a lukewarm kind of "faith."

The preacher, the congregation of the church and friends within it with which one has a relationship, become the authority which in the dialectic process moves
toward replacing the absolute authority of God, "it is written." And
-when "it is written" is the absolute authority, as in the present day
Remnant of Israel, then one becomes more interested in and concerned
about which Greek text and which translation is the word of God
preserved as inspired by the Holy Spirit (Psalm 12: 6-7, Psalm 119:
89, Matthew 4: 4, II Peter 1: 21, II Timothy 3: 16).

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Anyone who truly follows Jesus Christ, Yeshua, is at the left hand side of Marx, and at the right hand side of God. Have you ever known any ideology of man that truly works? Is there any that endures eternally? If you know of one, by all means entwine yourself and become a part of it. The only eternal ideology is not an ideology at all, it is Yeshua.
 

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Thanx texian for exposing and informing about soul-damning antichrist-marxism. Its influence is far bigger and wider than most people imagine. One should never forget about the masonic-satanic roots of this poison. Many marxist leaders were/are still masons.
 

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Thanx texian for exposing and informing about soul-damning antichrist-marxism. Its influence is far bigger and wider than most people imagine. One should never forget about the masonic-satanic roots of this poison. Many marxist leaders were/are still masons.
Again, I will pose this question. Have you ever seen or do you know of any ideaology or political system that is eternal? Or even long-lasting? Other than the Kingdom of God of course. I have yet to see any country or people who truly practice the Marx Manifesto, not that I would like to. If one follows the Lord closely, he will make any ideology pale in comparison.
 

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Again, I will pose this question. Have you ever seen or do you know of any ideaology or political system that is eternal? Or even long-lasting? Other than the Kingdom of God of course. I have yet to see any country or people who truly practice the Marx Manifesto, not that I would like to. If one follows the Lord closely, he will make any ideology pale in comparison.
We are here discussing marxist influence in particular. I don't see the marxian manifesto as "good" in nature. The roots of it are evil and rebellion against God.
 

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We are here discussing marxist influence in particular. I don't see the marxian manifesto as "good" in nature. The roots of it are evil and rebellion against God.
Please reread my post as not opposing anyone else's post. I know Marxism is a blight on mankind and history as it has been practiced, and were this Marx truly knowledgeable, he would never have written this so-called manifesto, since all proper conduct is taught much better in the Gospels of our Lord.
 

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The Bible tells us the agenda is to deceive people.

There are many ways they will go about deceiving us.

Remember to make "democracy" look "good" you need many other alternatives to have people believe the answer is "democracy".....


Good guy, bad guy scenario is how the deception is sold.

And you will find the the 666 man will be from a democratic background...............

It will seem like the only answer to mankind to be "united" in "peace and safety"


It will be sold to the people who survive unto that moment as the "light" in the darkness of things that will come to pass to put the world in the correct state to accept this........

Only those in the darkness would view it as a "light" those that know the true light will see only fire and brimstone being offered......

The stage is set, we already have two sides and many in the middle...

Those of us that make Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah our foundation will call to those in the middle to come.

Those against Yahvah God will call them into accepting their evil agenda.



So let us put on the full Armour of Yahvah God and remember all we receive, remember how Yahshua the Messiah did not resist the evil before us, to save us so that we can continue in the truth to give Glory of our Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

To show how truth and good will always overcome the deception.

You may be killed for the truth you share and remember these words.


33Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
They have only power to take our flesh, there is nothing in this world that can compensate losing our eternal life....

So until the last breath leave your mortal body, witness the truth to the world and give Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.
 
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The Frankfurt School of Transformational Marxism, and its allied psychologists and psychitrists - Abraham H. Maslow, Carl R. Rogers, Eric Fromm. Normon O. Brown and others, helped to inspire the counterculture of the sixties and seventies. The counterculture spread into the larger American culture over the decades of the 20th century. One of the major attractions of the counterculture for young people, in addition to drugs, was sex outside of marriage. In the fifties church Christianity had been seen as opposing sexuality. And so the Transformational Marxists, in their mission to diminish Christian faith and get rid of both Christianity and the family, in the name of psychology, advocated being one's self, becoming "fully functioning, fulfilling one's hierarchy of "needs," which were desires of the flesh, including sex, hit upon a way of leading young people out of Christianity. The hippies, drug users, art bohemians, followers of the self psychology of Rogers and Maslow, feminists - and soon the homosexuals and lesbians - all rebelled against the Christian churches because the church Christians opposed sex outside of marriage.

But scripture does not seek to diminish sexuality within the structure God ordained for it. Its that God ordained a structure, called marriage in the Bible, for the expession of sex, as one of its functions. But the flesh, including sex, was not to completely take over us. Only one of the functions of the permanent heterosexual relationship God ordained for men and women is sexual expression. Hebrews 13: 4 says "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."

"Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency." I Corinthians 7: 2-5

There was another part of the flesh that self psychology, as part of Transformational Marxism, promoted. This is pride, called self-esteem by Rogers and Maslow, and others in the self psychology movement. The object of the person in self-psychology is to seek to fulfill as many "needs" as possible to build up one' self-esteem. Self-esteem, as pride, became a major goal of American society as it and the self-actualization of Maslow was taught by education. So, the shrink (clinical and personality-social psychologists) allies of Adorno and Marcuse, the Frankfurters, taught American society to be fixated upon sensual needs, such as sex, and on self-esteem, which is also of man's carnal mind, his flesh.
 
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The Frankfurt School of Transformational Marxism, and its allied psychologists and psychitrists - Abraham H. Maslow, Carl R. Rogers, Eric Fromm. Normon O. Brown and others, helped to inspire the counterculture of the sixties and seventies. The counterculture spread into the larger American culture over he decades of the 20th century. One of the major attractions of the counterculture for your people, in addition to drugs, was sex outside of marriage. In the fifties church Christianity had been seen as opposing sexuality. And so the Transformational Marxists, in their mission to diminish Christian faith and get rid of both Christianity and the family, in the name of psychology, advocated being one's self, becoming "fully functioning, fulfilling one's hierarchy of "needs," which were desires of the flesh, including sex, hit upon a way of leading young people out of Christianity. The hippies, drug users, art bohemians, followers of the self psychology of Rogers and Maslow, feminists - and soon the homosexuals and lesbians - all rebelled against the Christian churches because the church Christians opposed sex outside of marriage.

But scripture does not seek to diminish sexuality within the structure God ordained for it. Its that God ordained a structure, called marriage in the Bible, for the expession of sex, as one of its functions. But the flesh, including sex, was not to completely take over us. Only one of the functions of the permanent heterosexual relationship God ordained for men and women is sexual expression. Hebrews 13: 4 says "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."

"Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency." I Corinthians 7: 2-5

There was another part of the flesh that self psychology, as part of Transformational Marxism, promoted. This is pride, called self-esteem by Rogers and Maslow, and others in the self psychology moovement. The object of the person in self-psychology is to seek to fulfill as many "needs" as possible to build up one' self-esteem. Self-esteem, as pride, became a major goal of American society as it and the self-actualization of Maslow was taught by education. So, the shrink (clinical and personality-social psychologists) allies of Adorno and Marcuse, the Frankfurters, taught American society to be fixated upon sensual needs, such as sex, and on self-esteem, which is also of man's carnal mind, his flesh.
Another top post. Thanks for sharing and I believe it is better to send the messages in shorter portions, like this one above- Keep the good work up!
 
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Marxism/Communism may be a direct force against Christianity and thus is a danger to every mans life, but i say liberalism is the current cunning force that is slowly, but is more effectively destroying the lives of millions and Christianity. If one had to compare Communism and liberalism's negative affect on Christianity, hands down liberalism has done the most damage. Yes communism has taken lives straight with the sword but liberalism has taken lives through the spirit. So better to me to be struck down by a Marxist that be brainwashed by a liberal.
 
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http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html

Georg Lukács and "Aufhebung der Kultur," Abolishment of Culture

On Georg Bernhard Lukács (1885-1971) , this site says "...Lukacs was secreted into Germany in 1922, where he chaired a meeting of Communist-oriented sociologists and intellectuals. This meeting founded the Institute for Social Research. Over the next decade, the Institute worked out what was to become the Comintern's most successful psychological warfare operation against the capitalist West."

"Lukacs identified that any political movement capable of bringing Bolshevism to the West would have to be, in his words, "demonic"; it would have to "possess the religious power which is capable of filling the entire soul; a power that characterized primitive Christianity." However, Lukacs suggested, such a "messianic" political movement could only succeed when the individual believes that his or her actions are determined by "not a personal destiny, but the destiny of the community" in a world "that has been abandoned by God [emphasis added-MJM]." Bolshevism worked in Russia because that nation was dominated by a peculiar gnostic form of Christianty typified by the writings of Fyodor Dostoyevsky. "

"What differentiated the West from Russia, Lukacs identified, was a Judeo-Christian cultural matrix which emphasized exactly the uniqueness and sacredness of the individual which Lukacs abjured. At its core, the dominant Western ideology maintained that the individual, through the exercise of his or her reason, could discern the Divine Will in an unmediated relationship. What was worse, from Lukacs' standpoint: this reasonable relationship necessarily implied that the individual could and should change the physical universe in pursuit of the Good; that Man should have dominion over Nature, as stated in the Biblical injunction in Genesis. The problem was, that as long as the individual had the belief—or even the hope of the belief—that his or her divine spark of reason could solve the problems facing society, then that society would never reach the state of hopelessness and alienation which Lukacs recognized as the necessary prerequisite for socialist revolution."

"The task of the Frankfurt School, then, was first, to undermine the Judeo-Christian legacy through an "abolition of culture" (Aufhebung der Kultur in Lukacs' German); and, second, to determine new cultural forms which would increase the alienation of the population, thus creating a "new barbarism." To this task, there gathered in and around the Frankfurt School an incredible assortment of not only Communists, but also non-party socialists, radical phenomenologists, Zionists, renegade Freudians, and at least a few members of a self-identified "cult of Astarte." The variegated membership reflected, to a certain extent, the sponsorship: although the Institute for Social Research started with Comintern support, over the next three decades its sources of funds included various German and American universities, the Rockefeller Foundation, Columbia Broadcasting System, the American Jewish Committee, several American intelligence services, the Office of the U.S. High Commissioner for Germany, the International Labour Organization, and the Hacker Institute, a posh psychiatric clinic in Beverly Hills."

In other words, Transformational Marxism was not Bolshevism since it did not try to take over Western Europe and the United States by violence, by shooting all those who did not accept Bolshevism. But Transformational Marxism is Marxist though it was first mixed with Freud and later with American personality and social psychology, clinical psychology and Group Dynamics as well as the encounter group movement.

In its drive to "abolish culture" Transformational Marxism set out to destroy the type of Christianity that Lukács said involved the believer having a close relationship with God and who might discern the will of God which Lukács thought was the basis for Western culture. Christian forms other than protestantism which were not purely Christian, such as the Eastern Orthodox Church in Russia, could more easily be taken over by violence and the "slow march through the institutions" of Transformational Marxism would not be necessary.

Transformational Marxism would have to destroy the culture of the West, bringing it down to a "new barbarism." In this process it would destroy the family, which is also a basis for Western culture and its form of Christianity. Transformational Marxism, in order to bring Western society's foundational structures of Christianity and the family down so that an atheist community based on Marxist theory could be established would destroy the economy, Christianity, the family, the constitutional form of government, absolute morality, and absolute truth in all areas. The result would be a dog eat dog society, or a new barbarism, where individuals are so without morality, so physically sick and so dumbed down that they cannot organize themselves to resist the tyranny of total takeover by a ruling elite, or killer elite.

When the vast majority of Christians in the churches are led by hireing preachers trained in false doctrines and in the dialectic procedure in the seminaries so that most Christians are in false teachings and do not love the truth or the scriptures, or "it is written," and are in luke warm faith, then they will obey the "higher powers" and not God - and not give the ruling elite much opposition.
 
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"You are hinting all around to something that is MUCH DEEPER:

Please read and contribute to the thread on christianchat.com:
THE PROTOCOLS OF [THE LEARNED ELDERS OF] Zion
Link -->> THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION"

Avoid single source scapegoating. Examples of this are the claim that the Catholics, especially
the Jesuits, are behind almost all problems. Another example is the belief that the Jews are the single source of all evil movements in recent history.

In the list of Transformational Marxist change agents that Dean Gotcher focuses on - Abraham Maslow, Carl Rogers, Irvin Yalom, Theodor Adorno, Erick Fromm,Norman O. Brown and Herbart Marcuse - two are not likely Jews. I knew Carl Rogers at the University of Wisconsin as one of my professors, and he was a WASP, White Anglo Saxon Protestant, out of Oak Park, Illinois. Norman O. Brown does not sound like a Jewish name either, yet he as a Gentile was an important change agent who inspired the counterculture with his 1959 book, Life Against Death: The Psychoanalytic Meaning of History. Brown was a professor of humanities at the University of California, Santa Cruz. But Brown studied Marx as well as Freud. Apparently Brown was not a professional psychologist or psychiatrist like Rogers, Maslow, Yalom, or Fromm. Adorno posed as a personality-social psychologist but had much broader interests as a leader of all the change agents. Marcuse was kind of a Marxist sociologist.

Marx provided the theory for the dialectic of society and of groups, while Freud offered the theoretical framework for the dialectic of the individual. Marx and Freud gave the Transformational Marxists their basic theory which knows nothing but man's flesh and exalts that above man as a living soul. Marx and Freud were both atheists in spite of being Jewish.

One might propose the hypothesis that Marx and Freud were influenced by the Freemasons to some extent. Albert Pike in his 1871 book, Morals and Dogma, gives credit to the Jewish Kaballa for many doctrines and rituals of Freemasonry. Pike was an important 19th century leader of the Masons in America. Yet that influence on Marx and Freud from both the Jewish sources, the Talmud and the Kaballa, and the Freemason influnce needs to be documented as well as possible, and not just assumed to be true. Assuming the influnce to be true would be part of Single Source Scapegoating.

In the fifties and sixties within American personality and social psychology, the questionnaire work of the Theodor W. Adorno group at the University of California, Berkeley, drew a lot of interest and the two questionnaire scales of Adorno, the F Scale and the E Scale, were much used in research, which was sloppy methodology. Then Milton Rokeach began, as early as 1952. a criticism of the theory and research methods of the Adorno group, whose book, The Authoritarian Personality, came out in 1950.
Rokeach pointed out that the dogmatism and opinionation described by the Adorno group for the political right, in other words, the fascists who the Marxists opposed - in the dialectic process - applies equally to the political left. The transformational Marxists, who appealed mostly to the left in the early days, in the fifties and sixties, were equally dogmatic and opinionated. Rokeach created his Dogmatism Scale to measure both right and left dogmatism.

So, following Rokeach's concepts, to say as a dogmatic assertion, as Single Source Scapegoating and not just as a hypothesis for investigation, is an example of dogmatism or opinionation. The political right versus the political left is a deception procedure used the elites to control the population. The ruling elite, mostly the financial elite, got the use of the left vs right, or Democrat vs. Republican, from the Hegelian Marxists, or from Hegel alone. Rokeach, in the fifties, probably had not arrived at this insight about the manipulation of the masses of voters by the dialectic of the right versus the left, though he provided a beginning plank in that insight. In the use of the dialectic of political right vs political left, the elite uses the population's eventual dislike for example, for a president,
to manipulate the voters into electing the guy the elite wants elected. Then, when the voters come to dislike the person they elected to get rid of the earlier president they came to dislike, the elite trots out a new guy who appeals to the voters and he gets elected, and on and on. Obama got elected because the voters came to dislike George W. Bush. We don't know yet how this process may play out in the 2012 election.
 
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I agree with your anaylisis of the Frankfurt School and it's influence Texian. I am greived that so much of the "evangelical" Church has embraced it although many are not even aware of it's existence but it plays out in all the various examples of political correctness that the Church allows to come through it's doors. The Church has been utterly feminised by Frankfurt style feminism. The political elite in the West have shifted the goalposts. The latest issue of Gay ( what's remotley gay about sodomy) Marriage is the most recent expression of it.
 
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Inasmuch as we recognize the problem and understand its damning source, as a people, we don't take resovle.

The Christians are still watching TV, actually purchasing cable TV, satellite TV, purchasing tabloid magazines; the Christians are also contributing consumers.

Then there is education. Churches are hoarding bigger HDTV screens, bigger sound systems, bigger buildings with bigger auditoriums, with bigger cafeterias, while the children in Christian households are all sent to public school to learn trash from Puff the Magic Dragon.

Just imagine what would happen if ALL the children from all Christian households were removed from public school and where schooled in all these EMPTY church building by real Christian missionaries?

For one, all school districts within conservative Republican States would loose major Federal funding, and would encourage Federal vouchers for parents' choice of schooling.

For two, there would be the survival of the faith in the next generation. Or how else would doctrines survive if these are not taught to the children?

There is not one, no, not one public school in the entire Unites States of America that has any concept of ethical value in their school curriculum. All grades preK - 12, all these precious souls, are all being trained to rot big time, and we, as Christians, are not doing anything besides watch them rot.

The US system is broken and has been broken for a very long,

L-O-N-G time,

and we Christians are still being taxed for the sake of existing on American soil, yet we are no longer FREE to protect our precious faith from the tyrany of heathen libertines.

...and those are the facts. :(
 
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Avoid single source scapegoating. Examples of this are the claim that the Catholics, especially the Jesuits, are behind almost all problems. Another example is the belief that the Jews are the single source of all evil movements in recent history. .... etc ....
I appreciate the concern about "single source
scapegoating" (not that I scapegoat at all, but rather
point to the many and various sources). This is not an
attempt to single source, but rather to expose a much
larger and broader system than 'mere' Marxism (or any
other system by itself). These systems are indeed
subordinate to the Priory or Protocol Systems of
Sionism/Zionism. It goes to the pinnacle of power but
still only to the base of -- The Illuminati.

I do believe that if you study the Protocols of
[The Learned Elders of] Zion, you will begin to, and
quite quickly, see the broad and vast influence that it
has. Indeed, by controlling the systems and
organizations and by infiltrating those they do not yet
control, their influence is pervasive and ubiquitous.

Control of the Money Supply, the Educational
Institutions, The Media, The Major religions (Including
Catholicism), large parts of many government
organizations, unions and etc., gives great power to
such an approach to mind and behavior control.

I also want to say that I appreciate, respect and in most
cases agree with your assertions in your posts. You are
insightful and sober minded and weighty.


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Inasmuch as we recognize the problem and understand its damning source, as a people, we don't take resovle.

The Christians are still watching TV, actually purchasing cable TV, satellite TV, purchasing tabloid magazines; the Christians are also contributing consumers.

Then there is education. Churches are hoarding bigger HDTV screens, bigger sound systems, bigger buildings with bigger auditoriums, with bigger cafeterias, while the children in Christian households are all sent to public school to learn trash from Puff the Magic Dragon.

Just imagine what would happen if ALL the children from all Christian households were removed from public school and where schooled in all these EMPTY church building by real Christian missionaries?

For one, all school districts within conservative Republican States would loose major Federal funding, and would encourage Federal vouchers for parents' choice of schooling.

For two, there would be the survival of the faith in the next generation. Or how else would doctrines survive if these are not taught to the children?

There is not one, no, not one public school in the entire Unites States of America that has any concept of ethical value in their school curriculum. All grades preK - 12, all these precious souls, are all being trained to rot big time, and we, as Christians, are not doing anything besides watch them rot.

The US system is broken and has been broken for a very long,

L-O-N-G time,

and we Christians are still being taxed for the sake of existing on American soil, yet we are no longer FREE to protect our precious faith from the tyrany of heathen libertines.

...and those are the facts. :(
I just hope Christians will open their eyes and stand together when the chance approaches to fix all of this wrong today. One needs to question if they are truly Christian and are willing enough to give up the cunning things in life they so adore to be with God.
 
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texian

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"I just hope Christians will open their eyes and stand together when the chance approaches to fix all of this wrong today. One needs to question if they are truly Christian and are willing enough to give up the cunning things in life they so adore to be with God."

Christians on the broad way described by Christ in Matthew 7:13 are not likely to open their eyes and fix the wrongs within the churches. But God always preserves a remnant, who come out from the broad way, and a few in the remnant were never part of that. Revelation 12 gives us a glimpse, in broad strokes of prophecy, of that remnant in the last days. The 144,000 of Revelation 7:.1-8 and 14: 1-5 are a remnant too and Daniel 11: 33 gives some information on the ministry of such a remnant, a text which can also be applied to the ministry of the Apostles in the First Century.

Revelation 12 shows in metaphoric language a women who flees to the metaphoric wilderness where she is nourished and protected from the dragon. She gives birth to a manchild. Who is this? It sounds like Christ in verse 5. In verse 17 the dragon goes to make war with the remnant seed of the woman, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. This is the last days remnant. Is it also the 144,000? It could include them, depending on what point in time is being seen. The remnant exists now scattered here and there over the world. The 144,000 will exist when their sealing is completed at some point in time before what metaphorically could be called the "earthquake" or the "twister" hits. In Revelation 7: 1 there are four angels seen as holding back or restraining the four winds of the earth - until the 144,000 are sealed. When the four winds of the earth are allowed to blow, what does this mean? It could include natural and man made physical disasters. It could include more severe economic problems, and a loss of social order. It could include a heightened spiritual battle between the remnant and those on the broad way, the spiritual wrestling of the last days.
 
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meecha

Guest
#19
Inasmuch as we recognize the problem and understand its damning source, as a people, we don't take resovle.

The Christians are still watching TV, actually purchasing cable TV, satellite TV, purchasing tabloid magazines; the Christians are also contributing consumers.

Then there is education. Churches are hoarding bigger HDTV screens, bigger sound systems, bigger buildings with bigger auditoriums, with bigger cafeterias, while the children in Christian households are all sent to public school to learn trash from Puff the Magic Dragon.

Just imagine what would happen if ALL the children from all Christian households were removed from public school and where schooled in all these EMPTY church building by real Christian missionaries?

For one, all school districts within conservative Republican States would loose major Federal funding, and would encourage Federal vouchers for parents' choice of schooling.

For two, there would be the survival of the faith in the next generation. Or how else would doctrines survive if these are not taught to the children?

There is not one, no, not one public school in the entire Unites States of America that has any concept of ethical value in their school curriculum. All grades preK - 12, all these precious souls, are all being trained to rot big time, and we, as Christians, are not doing anything besides watch them rot.

The US system is broken and has been broken for a very long,

L-O-N-G time,

and we Christians are still being taxed for the sake of existing on American soil, yet we are no longer FREE to protect our precious faith from the tyrany of heathen libertines.

...and those are the facts. :(



those are indeed the facts.