tree of knowledge

[pittsburghjoe]

Genesis 11:4
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.

"make a name for ourselves" ..without GOD
"the whole earth" ..just like the flood

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Isaiah 26:2-3
Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in. 3Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

Why is a Jewish Prophet from the OT talking about opening a door to Truth?

If GOD's Presence is in your Life, He knows you.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

This reality is about choosing GOD's Will, choosing to have His Presence in your mind.

Free Will is from your point-of-view because GOD sees the outcome and makes the plan from the future, after you made your choices.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

death is the default, GOD is offering us The Way out of it.

 

[Gideon300]

The Circumcision of Christ is the replacement of the Sinful Nature with the Divine Nature. When Christ gives a person His Divine Nature, that is the moment that a human is no longer influenced by the mind of Satan. That influence is completely gone, for the Devil has been defeated. When the Devil is defeated, that is the moment that we have escaped corruption. Remaining sin is that of our mind; our habits . . . and these habits will be Purified, sometimes quickly and sometimes slowly. Below is the Biblical text to confirm these ideas:

Colossians 2:11, 13 NLT - "When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. ... 13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins."

How are we made alive? Above, the Sin Nature is cut out and removed, and below, that Old Nature is replaced by the New Nature, the Divine Nature of Christ. And it is through this Circumcision of Spiritual Flesh that we escape corruption.

2 Peter 1:4 NLT - "And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world's corruption caused by human desires."

We are Enabled to escape corruption itself (now reborn of Incorruptible Seed) . . . this is not something we choose, but are Enabled to do. Ezekiel 7:13 confirms that no one can make themselves Holy. This means that no one can choose the correct Path, but must be enabled to do so. Here are a plethora of translations for verse 13 (this is pretty amazing):

Part b of verse 13 clearly proves that no man can cleanse his own heart.

[Eze 7:13 KJV] "For the seller shall not return to that which is sold, although they were yet alive: for the vision is touching the whole multitude thereof, which shall not return; neither shall any strengthen himself in the iniquity of his life."
[Eze 7:13 NKJV] "For the seller shall not return to what has been sold, Though he may still be alive; For the vision concerns the whole multitude, And it shall not turn back; No one will strengthen himself Who lives in iniquity."
[Eze 7:13 NLT] "Even if the merchants survive, they will never return to their business. For what God has said applies to everyone--it will not be changed! Not one person whose life is twisted by sin will ever recover."
[Eze 7:13 ESV] "For the seller shall not return to what he has sold, while they live. For the vision concerns all their multitude; it shall not turn back; and because of his iniquity, none can maintain his life."
[Eze 7:13 CSB] "The seller will certainly not return to what was sold as long as he and the buyer remain alive. For the vision concerning her whole crowd will not be revoked, and because of the iniquity of each one, none will preserve his life.
[Eze 7:13 NET] "The customer will no longer pay the seller while both parties are alive, for the vision against their whole crowd will not be revoked. Each person, for his iniquity, will fail to preserve his life."
[Eze 7:13 DBY] "For the seller shall not return to that which is sold, even though he were yet alive amongst the living: for the vision is touching the whole multitude thereof; it shall not be revoked; and none shall through his iniquity assure his life."

It is impossible that Salvation is our free will choice. Impossible.

Satan has access to our mind and can, and does, inject thoughts into it. Doubt me? 2 Corinthians 10

…3For though we live in the flesh, we do not wage war according to the flesh. 4 The weapons of our warfare are not the weapons of the world. Instead, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5We tear down arguments and every presumption set up against the knowledge of God; and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.…

Many Christians have discovered that not every thought that enters their mind is of their choosing. If we did not choose to think, where did the thought come from? God does not speak directly to the mind. So it is Satan or at least his evil spirits, that attack us. We need to know this so that we do not get deceived. Note that Satan's attacks are veiled. He does not announce himself and will speak in the first person.

An example. A friend of mine was having a really hard time. She was much discouraged. She gave me a blast and told me she was going to jump in front of a car. She recanted a few minutes later. She knows enough to realise that the devil had planted that thought and she rejected it.

I suggest that you read "War on the Saints" by Jesse-Penn Lewis. It's a real eye opener.

 

[pottersclay]

I think whats over looked here is the fact of why they picked the forbidden fruit.
"You shall be as god knowing good and evil.
This knowledge could only be obtained by disobedience.
Its foundation is built upon a lie. Is man like God.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Satan has access to our mind and can, and does, inject thoughts into it. Doubt me? 2 Corinthians 10

…3For though we live in the flesh, we do not wage war according to the flesh. 4 The weapons of our warfare are not the weapons of the world. Instead, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5We tear down arguments and every presumption set up against the knowledge of God; and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.…

Many Christians have discovered that not every thought that enters their mind is of their choosing. If we did not choose to think, where did the thought come from? God does not speak directly to the mind. So it is Satan or at least his evil spirits, that attack us. We need to know this so that we do not get deceived. Note that Satan's attacks are veiled. He does not announce himself and will speak in the first person.

An example. A friend of mine was having a really hard time. She was much discouraged. She gave me a blast and told me she was going to jump in front of a car. She recanted a few minutes later. She knows enough to realize that the devil had planted that thought and she rejected it.

I suggest that you read "War on the Saints" by Jesse-Penn Lewis. It's a real eye-opener.

Verse four, which you provided and highlighted, states clearly, that strongholds are "destroyed." If they are destroyed, how are they an influence in the future? How are "they" ongoing? They aren't . . . and this is why Paul taught in Colossians 2:15 that Satan has been defeated in the life of a True Believer. Jesus also told His disciples, when they returned from their mission, that He saw Satan fall light lightning bolts from the sky when they cast out demons (the moment people were saved).

Luke 10:17-19 NIV - "The seventy-two returned with joy and said, "Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name." 18 He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you."

I'll stick with the Bible and allow the Bible to interpret the Bible. Unfortunately, I don't have time to read the words of men, but I stick with the Holy Words of our Father. The Word of God is all that I need. I need nothing else for the Bible to make rational, reasonable sense. Thanks, though.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

I think whats over looked here is the fact of why they picked the forbidden fruit.
"You shall be as god knowing good and evil.
This knowledge could only be obtained by disobedience.
Its foundation is built upon a lie. Is man like God.

temptation happens in the mind. eating the fruit is choosing good or bad. it's a tree about choices. It doesn't involve GOD in the choice when it is from the tree of knowledge

 

[pittsburghjoe]

You either have goggles of death/sin or goggles of The Gospel.

• death is your reality if you refuse Life. You are begging to keep spiritual death from the tree of knowledge (spiritual blindness).
• death is equating life with money. "You are not living if you don't have money."

 

[Oseas3]

 

[pittsburghjoe]

apostate religious system = pharisees

They did everything today's churches do ..and yet Jesus called them His enemy

 

[pittsburghjoe]

man always falls, asks to be about himself ..to sin. This place had to exist or we all would be going to the lake. We handed death authority over to satan so we could sin.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

WHAT?!?!

The "Axis of Evil" is a name given to an anomaly in astronomical observations of the cosmic microwave background (CMB). The anomaly appears to give the plane of the Solar System and hence the location of Earth a greater significance than might be expected by chance

• they called it the "Axis of Evil" because it ruins everything you know

"Data from the Planck Telescope published in 2013 has since found stronger evidence for the anisotropy. "For a long time, part of the community was hoping that this would go away, but it hasn’t," says Dominik Schwarz of the University of Bielefeld in Germany."

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The Universe Really Is Fine-Tuned, And Our Existence Is The Proof

https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...d-our-existence-is-the-proof/?sh=1180dcf54b87

 

[pittsburghjoe]

physical death reality of man's logic

vs

Virtual Life Reality of Faith

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Virtual is Truth of the Infinite Kingdom.

dead time anchors us to the tree of knowledge.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

satan doesn't create anything, you bought the truth/death he was selling from the tree of knowledge. A truth that doesn't involve GOD in the choices.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

the torture of the lake is Righteousness (compatibility) of Infinity. choosing to believe satan's lie is your ticket to the lake. sin becomes an illusion from the tree of knowledge after you know The Truth.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Jesus gave us The Way to be compatible with the Tree of Life.

That means The Way is Righteous. And the Tree of Life is Infinite Life.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

This reality isn't what you think it is.

It's about getting your death on The Cross.