TRUE BIBLICAL SABBATH, NOT MAN'S SABBATH
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why do you not post the verse in context Avinu?
WHO went home and "obeyed the COMMANDMENT?
after WHAT was done? can't we see what THIS IS REALLY ABOUT?
Luke 23
Jesus Before Pilate
1Then the whole company of them arose and brought him before Pilate. 2And they began to accuse him, saying, “We found this man misleading our nation and forbidding us to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that he himself is Christ, a king.” 3And Pilate asked him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” And he answered him, “You have said so.” 4Then Pilate said to the chief priests and the crowds, “I find no guilt in this man.” 5But they were urgent, saying, “He stirs up the people, teaching throughout all Judea, from Galilee even to this place.”
Jesus Before Herod
6When Pilate heard this, he asked whether the man was a Galilean. 7And when he learned that he belonged to Herod’s jurisdiction, he sent him over to Herod, who was himself in Jerusalem at that time. 8When Herod saw Jesus, he was very glad, for he had long desired to see him, because he had heard about him, and he was hoping to see some sign done by him. 9So he questioned him at some length, but he made no answer. 10The chief priests and the scribes stood by, vehemently accusing him. 11And Herod with his soldiers treated him with contempt and mocked him. Then, arraying him in splendid clothing, he sent him back to Pilate. 12And Herod and Pilate became friends with each other that very day, for before this they had been at enmity with each other.
13Pilate then called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people, 14and said to them, “You brought me this man as one who was misleading the people. And after examining him before you, behold, I did not find this man guilty of any of your charges against him. 15Neither did Herod, for he sent him back to us. Look, nothing deserving death has been done by him. 16I will therefore punish and release him.”a
Pilate Delivers Jesus to Be Crucified
18But they all cried out together, “Away with this man, and release to us Barabbas”— 19a man who had been thrown into prison for an insurrection started in the city and for murder. 20Pilate addressed them once more, desiring to release Jesus, 21but they kept shouting, “Crucify, crucify him!” 22A third time he said to them, “Why, what evil has he done? I have found in him no guilt deserving death. I will therefore punish and release him.” 23But they were urgent, demanding with loud cries that he should be crucified. And their voices prevailed. 24So Pilate decided that their demand should be granted. 25He released the man who had been thrown into prison for insurrection and murder, for whom they asked, but he delivered Jesus over to their will.
The Crucifixion
26And as they led him away, they seized one Simon of Cyrene, who was coming in from the country, and laid on him the cross, to carry it behind Jesus. 27And there followed him a great multitude of the people and of women who were mourning and lamenting for him. 28But turning to them Jesus said, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. 29For behold, the days are coming when they will say, ‘Blessed are the barren and the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!’ 30Then they will begin to say to the mountains, ‘Fall on us,’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us.’ 31For if they do these things when the wood is green, what will happen when it is dry?”
32Two others, who were criminals, were led away to be put to death with him. 33And when they came to the place that is called The Skull, there they crucified him, and the criminals, one on his right and one on his left. 34And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”b And they cast lots to divide his garments. 35And the people stood by, watching, but the rulers scoffed at him, saying, “He saved others; let him save himself, if he is the Christ of God, his Chosen One!” 36The soldiers also mocked him, coming up and offering him sour wine 37and saying, “If you are the King of the Jews, save yourself!” 38There was also an inscription over him,c “This is the King of the Jews.”
39One of the criminals who were hanged railed at him,d saying, “Are you not the Christ? Save yourself and us!” 40But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41And we indeed justly, for we are receiving the due reward of our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.” 42And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”
The Death of Jesus
44It was now about the sixth hour,e and there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour,f 45while the sun’s light failed. And the curtain of the temple was torn in two. 46Then Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!” And having said this he breathed his last. 47Now when the centurion saw what had taken place, he praised God, saying, “Certainly this man was innocent!” 48And all the crowds that had assembled for this spectacle, when they saw what had taken place, returned home beating their breasts. 49And all his acquaintances and the women who had followed him from Galilee stood at a distance watching these things.
Jesus Is Buried
50Now there was a man named Joseph, from the Jewish town of Arimathea. He was a member of the council, a good and righteous man, 51who had not consented to their decision and action; and he was looking for the kingdom of God. 52This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 53Then he took it down and wrapped it in a linen shroud and laid him in a tomb cut in stone, where no one had ever yet been laid. 54It was the day of Preparation, and the Sabbath was beginning.g 55The women who had come with him from Galilee followed and saw the tomb and how his body was laid. 56Then they returned and prepared spices and ointments.
On the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment.
WHO went home and "obeyed the COMMANDMENT?
after WHAT was done? can't we see what THIS IS REALLY ABOUT?
Luke 23
Jesus Before Pilate
1Then the whole company of them arose and brought him before Pilate. 2And they began to accuse him, saying, “We found this man misleading our nation and forbidding us to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that he himself is Christ, a king.” 3And Pilate asked him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” And he answered him, “You have said so.” 4Then Pilate said to the chief priests and the crowds, “I find no guilt in this man.” 5But they were urgent, saying, “He stirs up the people, teaching throughout all Judea, from Galilee even to this place.”
Jesus Before Herod
6When Pilate heard this, he asked whether the man was a Galilean. 7And when he learned that he belonged to Herod’s jurisdiction, he sent him over to Herod, who was himself in Jerusalem at that time. 8When Herod saw Jesus, he was very glad, for he had long desired to see him, because he had heard about him, and he was hoping to see some sign done by him. 9So he questioned him at some length, but he made no answer. 10The chief priests and the scribes stood by, vehemently accusing him. 11And Herod with his soldiers treated him with contempt and mocked him. Then, arraying him in splendid clothing, he sent him back to Pilate. 12And Herod and Pilate became friends with each other that very day, for before this they had been at enmity with each other.
13Pilate then called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people, 14and said to them, “You brought me this man as one who was misleading the people. And after examining him before you, behold, I did not find this man guilty of any of your charges against him. 15Neither did Herod, for he sent him back to us. Look, nothing deserving death has been done by him. 16I will therefore punish and release him.”a
Pilate Delivers Jesus to Be Crucified
18But they all cried out together, “Away with this man, and release to us Barabbas”— 19a man who had been thrown into prison for an insurrection started in the city and for murder. 20Pilate addressed them once more, desiring to release Jesus, 21but they kept shouting, “Crucify, crucify him!” 22A third time he said to them, “Why, what evil has he done? I have found in him no guilt deserving death. I will therefore punish and release him.” 23But they were urgent, demanding with loud cries that he should be crucified. And their voices prevailed. 24So Pilate decided that their demand should be granted. 25He released the man who had been thrown into prison for insurrection and murder, for whom they asked, but he delivered Jesus over to their will.
The Crucifixion
26And as they led him away, they seized one Simon of Cyrene, who was coming in from the country, and laid on him the cross, to carry it behind Jesus. 27And there followed him a great multitude of the people and of women who were mourning and lamenting for him. 28But turning to them Jesus said, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. 29For behold, the days are coming when they will say, ‘Blessed are the barren and the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!’ 30Then they will begin to say to the mountains, ‘Fall on us,’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us.’ 31For if they do these things when the wood is green, what will happen when it is dry?”
32Two others, who were criminals, were led away to be put to death with him. 33And when they came to the place that is called The Skull, there they crucified him, and the criminals, one on his right and one on his left. 34And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”b And they cast lots to divide his garments. 35And the people stood by, watching, but the rulers scoffed at him, saying, “He saved others; let him save himself, if he is the Christ of God, his Chosen One!” 36The soldiers also mocked him, coming up and offering him sour wine 37and saying, “If you are the King of the Jews, save yourself!” 38There was also an inscription over him,c “This is the King of the Jews.”
39One of the criminals who were hanged railed at him,d saying, “Are you not the Christ? Save yourself and us!” 40But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41And we indeed justly, for we are receiving the due reward of our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.” 42And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”
The Death of Jesus
44It was now about the sixth hour,e and there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour,f 45while the sun’s light failed. And the curtain of the temple was torn in two. 46Then Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!” And having said this he breathed his last. 47Now when the centurion saw what had taken place, he praised God, saying, “Certainly this man was innocent!” 48And all the crowds that had assembled for this spectacle, when they saw what had taken place, returned home beating their breasts. 49And all his acquaintances and the women who had followed him from Galilee stood at a distance watching these things.
Jesus Is Buried
50Now there was a man named Joseph, from the Jewish town of Arimathea. He was a member of the council, a good and righteous man, 51who had not consented to their decision and action; and he was looking for the kingdom of God. 52This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 53Then he took it down and wrapped it in a linen shroud and laid him in a tomb cut in stone, where no one had ever yet been laid. 54It was the day of Preparation, and the Sabbath was beginning.g 55The women who had come with him from Galilee followed and saw the tomb and how his body was laid. 56Then they returned and prepared spices and ointments.
On the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment.
You do know there are types and shadows in the old testament right??? They don't say they are types and shadows but we know this to be true. Jesus says my yoke is easy and my burden is light. sabbath means rest. I don't think it is twisting scripture to say that Old Testament following of sabbath is a type and shadow of following Jesus.
The bible clearly says that our righteousness is like dirty rags to the Lord. The bible clearly states that we are saved by grace and NOT by works. When you try to convince people, through clever picking and choosing and manipulation of scripture, that they are to keep the law you are placing them under that heavy yoke and heavy burden that Jesus already took off of us. You are especially dangerous to christians because you say you have "proven through the scriptures" that they must be put back under this heavy yoke. I keep responding to you because I know that Jesus saved us from having to work for our salvation. He gives us rest. We can rest in Him.
The Law demands. Do this and recieve this. Don't do that and these things won't happen. Grace gives freely. Grace gives us the things we don't deserve by our works.
The Law didn't save me. The Law didn't justify me. The Law didn't sanctify me. The Law didn't pull me out of my pit. Jesus Saved me. Jesus Justified me. Jesus Sanctified me. Jesus pulled me out of my pit. How could you let someone convince you that you must remain righteous in your own works after all the wonderful things Jesus does for you?? I trust in Jesus. I don't trust in myself to keep the Law. The Law kills. I choose Life!!
God Bless You
The bible clearly says that our righteousness is like dirty rags to the Lord. The bible clearly states that we are saved by grace and NOT by works. When you try to convince people, through clever picking and choosing and manipulation of scripture, that they are to keep the law you are placing them under that heavy yoke and heavy burden that Jesus already took off of us. You are especially dangerous to christians because you say you have "proven through the scriptures" that they must be put back under this heavy yoke. I keep responding to you because I know that Jesus saved us from having to work for our salvation. He gives us rest. We can rest in Him.
The Law demands. Do this and recieve this. Don't do that and these things won't happen. Grace gives freely. Grace gives us the things we don't deserve by our works.
The Law didn't save me. The Law didn't justify me. The Law didn't sanctify me. The Law didn't pull me out of my pit. Jesus Saved me. Jesus Justified me. Jesus Sanctified me. Jesus pulled me out of my pit. How could you let someone convince you that you must remain righteous in your own works after all the wonderful things Jesus does for you?? I trust in Jesus. I don't trust in myself to keep the Law. The Law kills. I choose Life!!
God Bless You
Grandpa I completely agree with you. The problem is you're not listening to what is being said here. Show me in one post where I've said we have to work for our salvation, in fact show me one place that I said keeping Sabbath and God's Commandments has anything to do with getting salvation. You have to pay attention to what I've written to have a subtantial arguement, so I'll say it again, Yeshua is our salvation, not by works. But even Yeshua said IF you love me keep my Father's Commandments. It's pretty clear, at least for those who are truly seeking to be obedient to God. God Bless you too.
but avinu.
you are free to worship the Lord as you feel convicted and led.
and so am i.
i have my instructions. they are in the teachings of The Apostles.
NOT ONE TAUGHT MOSAIC SABBATH. NOT ONE.
if the Sabbath in Moses was given to differentiate the children of Israel who the Lord delivered out of Egypt, what differentiates us from the jews?
gentiles weren't called until AFTER Pentecost (for the most part).
Paul taught in the synagogues because that's where the UNBELIEVING JEWS WERE!
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If you agreed with me you would see that the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ gave us a new law. You would see that new law is Grace. You wouldn't try to put christians under the jewish yoke of keeping the law. You would instead be teaching that the law is kept when we follow the Spirit, when we follow Jesus. Its all about Jesus all the time. Its never about us or what we keep or don't keep. Thank you Jesus for saving me. Hallelujah.
God Bless You
God Bless You
When God rested from His works on the (7th) day, when did that day become the sabbath or the day of rest?
Did Adam, who was created before the (7th) day, observe the (7th) day that became the sabbath?
Is there any evidence that we can deduce from the scriptures that this (7th) day was observed in the garden of Eden or even after they were removed from the garden?
Did Cain or his brother Abel or Seth practice keeping or observing this day?
The only prohibition that God gave Adam was not to eat from the tree of knowledge in the midst of the garden, but nothing concerning no labour on any of the seven day week
Who was the first to observe the sabbath and why did they observe it?
Did Adam, who was created before the (7th) day, observe the (7th) day that became the sabbath?
Is there any evidence that we can deduce from the scriptures that this (7th) day was observed in the garden of Eden or even after they were removed from the garden?
Did Cain or his brother Abel or Seth practice keeping or observing this day?
The only prohibition that God gave Adam was not to eat from the tree of knowledge in the midst of the garden, but nothing concerning no labour on any of the seven day week
Who was the first to observe the sabbath and why did they observe it?
[QUOTEplease list all 1100 imperitives in the New Testament and tell me if you keep them all.
you misquoted Jesus Avinu.....He said something different and it is the key to resolving this issue. ][/QUOTE]
Please show me where I misquoted Yeshua and I'll fix it and apologize, for I would never do it on purpose. No one keeps all the Commandments perfect, that is why we have grace and mercy, (why do I have to keep repeating myself) but it still does not release us from having to keep the commandments.
one of my favorite proofs Rev. 22:14 Blessed are those who do HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
1John 5:3 For this is the LOVE of God, that WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. AND HIS COMMANDMENTS ARE NOT BURDENSOME.
Shalom
you misquoted Jesus Avinu.....He said something different and it is the key to resolving this issue. ][/QUOTE]
Please show me where I misquoted Yeshua and I'll fix it and apologize, for I would never do it on purpose. No one keeps all the Commandments perfect, that is why we have grace and mercy, (why do I have to keep repeating myself) but it still does not release us from having to keep the commandments.
one of my favorite proofs Rev. 22:14 Blessed are those who do HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
1John 5:3 For this is the LOVE of God, that WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. AND HIS COMMANDMENTS ARE NOT BURDENSOME.
Shalom