UFOs and Aliens
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Do a word study on chariots as applied unto the angels....and study the vision of God's throne in Ezekiel.....
4 living creatures on the ground NEXT to the wheel and when the WHEEL goes up the 4 living creatures go up because they are IN the WHEEL....
They move like the lightning
They leap from hill to hill
Elijah going up in a flaming CHARIOT.....
The word chariot is translated form about 4 to 6 different words in the Hebrew and is not necessarily indicative of what we automatically think of when we hear the word Chariot
....not all places are like BEN HUR
Etc.......
Very interesting concepts fund when the word is studied as applied unto the angels of God....
4 living creatures on the ground NEXT to the wheel and when the WHEEL goes up the 4 living creatures go up because they are IN the WHEEL....
They move like the lightning
They leap from hill to hill
Elijah going up in a flaming CHARIOT.....
The word chariot is translated form about 4 to 6 different words in the Hebrew and is not necessarily indicative of what we automatically think of when we hear the word Chariot
....not all places are like BEN HUR
Etc.......
Very interesting concepts fund when the word is studied as applied unto the angels of God....
Since the Anunnaki were an advanced civilization, able to traverse the vastness of space to reach this planet, to colonize it, and exploit its resources, and transfer these metals by freighter to their orbiting ship, surely there must be some evidence in the religious and secular literature that refers, at least obliquely, to the skyborne vehicles used by these ancient astronauts.
The obvious allusion which comes to mind is the "fiery chariot" of Ezekiel. It is graphically described several times in the "Book of Ezekiel" so that it cannot be dismissed as merely an aberration of the text or even a hallucination of the prophet.
[Comment: An inventor’s life-size replica of the Ezekiel Airship is on permanent display in Warrick’s Restaurant in Pittsburg, Texas, a few miles south of Interstate Highway 30, in case you are ever passing through Northeast Texas and would wish to see it - as well as have lunch or dinner in this wonderful Cajun restaurant. The replica now on display is the second rendition. The first model actually flew for a short distance before crashing. The second model has never been flown. This "sculpture" looks much like a gigantic hang-glider.]
Ezekiel is not an exception for these aerial machines appear throughout the Scriptures, although they are usually interpreted in religious and mystical terms. It is indicative of the mind-set of these translators that they refuse to recognize them for what they are.
[Comment: It should be noted that one who did not understand the principles of air travel could not have known to interpret them in any other way than by "religion" or "mysticism."]
In Ezekiel’s case it is called a fiery chariot, as if somehow this term is more acceptable, perhaps because it has mythological connotations and is the most innocuous way of dismissing a troublesome reference. Nowhere have Biblical scholars translated or referred to the various appearances of these unusual vehicles as aircraft, airships, or even space ships.
Along this vein it is interesting to note that the land-locked Hebrews referred to the airships as "chariots" while the sea-going Egyptians called them "boats of heaven."
What is not commonly perceived is that there are numerous references to airborne craft in the Scriptures, but their appearances have been masked through theological interpretation and in many cases just plain false translations.
There are various names used for the vehicles of the ancient astronauts, and we shall try to identify them and separate them by function. The space capsule or personal housing of the gods is referred to as either a "shekinah" or as a "kabod" in the Scriptures. In the books of Exodus and Ezekiel, the personal craft is called a "kabod," while in the works of the Pseudepigrapha and the Haggadah the craft is called a "shekinah." The terms seem to be interchangeable since both rest on a larger vehicle or booster platform called "cherubim."
To leave the orbiting space ship or to travel about on Earth, the composite craft or command capsule and the booster platform was sufficient, although the capsule could independently travel by itself for short distances, as seen in the case of Ezekiel.
In order to leave the Earth’s gravity and reach the orbiting space ship, the command capsule was mounted on a larger booster rocket called a "shem" in the Old Testament and "shumu" in the Sumerian literature.
The personal command capsule - the "shekinah" or "kabod" - has taken on a special significance among the ancient peoples of the Middle East, since it was considered to be the actual residence of the gods; and each civilization revered the cone-shaped object in different ways according to its own traditions.
This cone-shaped command capsule is,
The obvious allusion which comes to mind is the "fiery chariot" of Ezekiel. It is graphically described several times in the "Book of Ezekiel" so that it cannot be dismissed as merely an aberration of the text or even a hallucination of the prophet.
[Comment: An inventor’s life-size replica of the Ezekiel Airship is on permanent display in Warrick’s Restaurant in Pittsburg, Texas, a few miles south of Interstate Highway 30, in case you are ever passing through Northeast Texas and would wish to see it - as well as have lunch or dinner in this wonderful Cajun restaurant. The replica now on display is the second rendition. The first model actually flew for a short distance before crashing. The second model has never been flown. This "sculpture" looks much like a gigantic hang-glider.]
Ezekiel is not an exception for these aerial machines appear throughout the Scriptures, although they are usually interpreted in religious and mystical terms. It is indicative of the mind-set of these translators that they refuse to recognize them for what they are.
[Comment: It should be noted that one who did not understand the principles of air travel could not have known to interpret them in any other way than by "religion" or "mysticism."]
In Ezekiel’s case it is called a fiery chariot, as if somehow this term is more acceptable, perhaps because it has mythological connotations and is the most innocuous way of dismissing a troublesome reference. Nowhere have Biblical scholars translated or referred to the various appearances of these unusual vehicles as aircraft, airships, or even space ships.
Along this vein it is interesting to note that the land-locked Hebrews referred to the airships as "chariots" while the sea-going Egyptians called them "boats of heaven."
What is not commonly perceived is that there are numerous references to airborne craft in the Scriptures, but their appearances have been masked through theological interpretation and in many cases just plain false translations.
There are various names used for the vehicles of the ancient astronauts, and we shall try to identify them and separate them by function. The space capsule or personal housing of the gods is referred to as either a "shekinah" or as a "kabod" in the Scriptures. In the books of Exodus and Ezekiel, the personal craft is called a "kabod," while in the works of the Pseudepigrapha and the Haggadah the craft is called a "shekinah." The terms seem to be interchangeable since both rest on a larger vehicle or booster platform called "cherubim."
To leave the orbiting space ship or to travel about on Earth, the composite craft or command capsule and the booster platform was sufficient, although the capsule could independently travel by itself for short distances, as seen in the case of Ezekiel.
In order to leave the Earth’s gravity and reach the orbiting space ship, the command capsule was mounted on a larger booster rocket called a "shem" in the Old Testament and "shumu" in the Sumerian literature.
The personal command capsule - the "shekinah" or "kabod" - has taken on a special significance among the ancient peoples of the Middle East, since it was considered to be the actual residence of the gods; and each civilization revered the cone-shaped object in different ways according to its own traditions.
This cone-shaped command capsule is,
- the "beth-el" of the Hebrews
- the "betyl" of the Canaanites and Phoenicians
- the "ben-ben" of the Egyptians
- the Greeks knew it as the "omphalos"
The ancient mystery religions also preserved a legend: When heaven and earth joined together, gods descended to earth. The gods possessed the knowledge of the
universe: the whole continuum of what can be known. They bestowed on men the art of civilization: government, agriculture and science, inventions that we in modern times hold to be human achievements. All science and learning was developed in the time when gods and man dwelt together. But the gods were said to
have also lived on earth in the time before man. Ancient historians chronicled the rule of intelligent prehumans on earth for millions of years. The gods existed from the formation of the solar system and traveled between its worlds. Their planetary civilization was unparalleled, their edifices and cities were magnificent. Then, at
some point in the dim past the realm of the gods was destroyed by a horrific cataclysm. Evidence of this civilization was not completely erased. The most extensive remains of the once great cities of the solar system were frozen in time on a decimated planet in the 4th orbit from the sun…Mars.
Modern space probes, Pioneer, Viking and recently the Mars Odyssey have sent images of Mars back to earth that reveal artificial structures on its surface. The images from the Martian region known as Cydonia are the most intriguing. Giant pyramids, a massive human like face and even remnants of the foundations of a city
arranged according to a geometric plan are seen in this region. Modern researchers cite this discovery as proof of the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life.
However pictures can lie, sun angles may create illusions; geologic anomalies unknown on earth may exist on Mars. Proving conclusively that these structures are artificial with satellite imagery may never become a reality. Advocates of the argument for the artificiality of the Cydonian monuments admit the debate will not end until man sets foot on Mars. But there is an alternative solution. The key to understanding the monuments of Cydonia remains on earth in the symbols given to men by the gods.
After the destruction of their kingdom the heavenly messengers did not die. They continued interaction with mankind and helped to shape the course of history. This
communication intensified during the period of several earth cataclysms. Knowledge lost after each destructive episode was subsequently resurrected with the help of the gods. Through time the symbols have endured, preserved in earth’s megalithic monuments and in systems of time and measurement, “hidden in plain sight.” They have been incorporated into the dogma of alchemy, Gnosticism, theurgy, philosophy and religion and used in modern society as emblems of trade, war and nationality. The illiterate man cannot understand the meaning of letters, even if he encounters them every day, year after year. The meaning of letters must be taught;
their use in words must be explained. Only through instruction can one use writing to communicate. The same is true of the myth and symbols of the ancient mystery
religions and the monuments of Cydonia.
These symbols demonstrate earth’s orientation in heaven, its appointed times and seasons and especially the incredible destiny of mankind. Mars preserves the evidence of an ancient kingdom hidden from our modern age. The symbols of the mysteries lead back to Mars. Symbols of the ancient mysteries are found in nearly every religion on earth. They are also inextricably linked to the ancient texts of the Bible. In Genesis chapter 3 the first knowledge was given to human beings in the form of a fruit. The fruit of the tree of knowledge is considered the foremost symbol of gnosis according to the mystery schools. It unravels the secrets of the monuments of Cydonia. The ancients believed that remnants of this symbolic fruit remained on earth. The heroes of legend sought the golden fruit. Mention of it occurs in the epics of Greece and Rome. In the Age of Enlightenment painters depicted it in the Garden of Eden as a quince, a fruit coined by the Gnostics with the scientific name: Pyrus Cydonia. Pyrus Cydonia is once again within the reach of man. The existence of an ancient civilization on Mars will be proven in the near future. This revelation will be a type of Rosetta stoneaiding in the decipherment of history. Cydonia is the lost word of knowledge of the illumined, the philosopher stone of the alchemist and the ultimate achievement of the scientific age. However questions remain, why was the civilization of the gods destroyed? Why has the earth endured cyclic destruction? Why would a superior extraterrestrial race concern itself so intimately with men? Is there a conflict in the realm of heaven in which humanity unwittingly plays a role? For thousands of years the gods have prepared for this time in history. But the truth will be established before the counterfeit revelation takes hold of the entire earth.
written by David Flynn
There is an incredibly complex number of variables that have to line up right for life to be able to exist. It is so complex that it is evidence for design, so even secular scientists have been faced with the issue of the existence of God. Some have resorted to absurdity to argue against it. One theory is tht there are parallel universes like in the Superhero comic books. If there were an infinite number of universes, the statistical probability of life existing becomes less of an issue for them.
I saw a documentary that argued that our solar system is in the middle of the observable universe, surrounded by concentric circles (or spheres?) of clusters of galaxies. If God made other intelligent life on other planets, He still chose to send His Son as a Man to die once for Mankind, not as a Klingon....or whatever...to die and rise again.
I am of the opinion that many of the encounters with alleged space aliens are actually encounters with demons. I saw a program from Hugh Ross, an astrophysicist and pastor, who has interviewed numerous people who have had encounters with UFOs. In his experience as a grad student, he clocked hundreds of hours looking at the sky. Certain individuals would come in and see UFOs after a brief time looking into the telescope. He came up with the hypothesis that seeing UFO's probably had more to do with the individuals than with what was in the sky. These individuals were involved in the occult.
Later, he found in interviewing those who claimed encounters with UFOs and aliens, that the more intense an individual's experience with the occult was, the more intense of a UFO encounter they had. Most encounters could be explained by natural phenomenon, government aircraft, weather baloons, reflections of chandiliers in the window, etc. But those that could not usually involved someone who was into the occult. The ones who actually saw and spoke with the aliens were typically very much into the occult. Also, during the Cold War, the Russian government encouraged their scientists to experiment with the occult. He said that some of them were demonized. Back in the 1980's, I think it was, he spoke to some Russian scientists, and he said 10 or 15 of them were demon-possessed, probably through their occult activity, and screamed curses against Christ while he went up to speak. He had some pastors pray at the next meeting, and the demonized scientists were silent.
On one of his shows on Christian TV in the 1990's, Reasons to Believe, he said that two agnostic scientists, one of whom gave a report to Congress on UFO activities, concluded that accounts of encounters with UFOs were similar to if not identical to accounts of encounters with demons.
I saw a documentary that argued that our solar system is in the middle of the observable universe, surrounded by concentric circles (or spheres?) of clusters of galaxies. If God made other intelligent life on other planets, He still chose to send His Son as a Man to die once for Mankind, not as a Klingon....or whatever...to die and rise again.
I am of the opinion that many of the encounters with alleged space aliens are actually encounters with demons. I saw a program from Hugh Ross, an astrophysicist and pastor, who has interviewed numerous people who have had encounters with UFOs. In his experience as a grad student, he clocked hundreds of hours looking at the sky. Certain individuals would come in and see UFOs after a brief time looking into the telescope. He came up with the hypothesis that seeing UFO's probably had more to do with the individuals than with what was in the sky. These individuals were involved in the occult.
Later, he found in interviewing those who claimed encounters with UFOs and aliens, that the more intense an individual's experience with the occult was, the more intense of a UFO encounter they had. Most encounters could be explained by natural phenomenon, government aircraft, weather baloons, reflections of chandiliers in the window, etc. But those that could not usually involved someone who was into the occult. The ones who actually saw and spoke with the aliens were typically very much into the occult. Also, during the Cold War, the Russian government encouraged their scientists to experiment with the occult. He said that some of them were demonized. Back in the 1980's, I think it was, he spoke to some Russian scientists, and he said 10 or 15 of them were demon-possessed, probably through their occult activity, and screamed curses against Christ while he went up to speak. He had some pastors pray at the next meeting, and the demonized scientists were silent.
On one of his shows on Christian TV in the 1990's, Reasons to Believe, he said that two agnostic scientists, one of whom gave a report to Congress on UFO activities, concluded that accounts of encounters with UFOs were similar to if not identical to accounts of encounters with demons.