UN vote What does it mean

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kaylagrl

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What would that prove? Any source could potentially be called out for being biased. Myself, I do my best to put bias aside when I go to do research, BUT, there are none so blind.
Yes but there has to be proof of what someone is saying. You cant just throw out something as fact and expecting others to just believe it.
 
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Yes but there has to be proof of what someone is saying. You cant just throw out something as fact and expecting others to just believe it.
What do you want me to do? Beam you up passports and receipts from those exchanges six plus decades ago that were most likely non-existent or phony anyway just so you can tell me that you have no way to verify that they're official documents?

At any rate, the UN resolution means nothing because those people are going to do what they want anyway. The UN military is busy and who is going to police those guys if not the UN?
 
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Nothing unbiblical or IGNORANT about the statement. Give an example of God putting unrepentant God haters back in the land then I might agree with you.
Sure it was.....and it states a lot about your understanding..........and is tragic!
 
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IMHO it is a mistake to confuse the actual Jews living in Israel with the Israeli government.

Would it upset you if someone told you that Israel is supported by the Jesuits?
I really could acre less who supports them....they in the past have made the same mistake over and over again...does not change the fact that there is a remnant that will be brought into the land, prospered, and their sin does not in any way shape or form disannul the agreement and covenant that god has made with the Apple of His eye.....they will pay for their current sin dia the Great tribulation, will be whittled down and the remnant will acknowledge JESUS.....any who say that they have stolen the land are ignorant.....YOU cannot steal what you have already been given freely.........going to be a few pay for their anti-Israel stance.....I suppose God seeks to destroy ALL nations that meddle with JERUSALEM because is it not actually the CAPITAL of ISRAEL and belongs unto the SON OF DAVID who will rule as the LION of JUDAH on the throne of HIS FATHER DAVID.....

SUCH ignorance and insolence will be met with heat from GOD!
 
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What do you want me to do? Beam you up passports and receipts from those exchanges six plus decades ago that were most likely non-existent or phony anyway just so you can tell me that you have no way to verify that they're official documents?

At any rate, the UN resolution means nothing because those people are going to do what they want anyway. The UN military is busy and who is going to police those guys if not the UN?[/QUOTE}


So you're saying there is no proof of what you stated?
 
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I really could acre less who supports them....they in the past have made the same mistake over and over again...does not change the fact that there is a remnant that will be brought into the land, prospered, and their sin does not in any way shape or form disannul the agreement and covenant that god has made with the Apple of His eye.....they will pay for their current sin dia the Great tribulation, will be whittled down and the remnant will acknowledge JESUS.....any who say that they have stolen the land are ignorant.....YOU cannot steal what you have already been given freely.........going to be a few pay for their anti-Israel stance.....I suppose God seeks to destroy ALL nations that meddle with JERUSALEM because is it not actually the CAPITAL of ISRAEL and belongs unto the SON OF DAVID who will rule as the LION of JUDAH on the throne of HIS FATHER DAVID.....

SUCH ignorance and insolence will be met with heat from GOD!
There is an awards thread going on in another forum. You just got my nomination the "laying it on the line" award! I appreciate your stand brother.
 
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Quote "Do you know of any bibllical instances where God brought Israel back into their land while they still rejected God?"

KJV this has been answered again and again in another forum. You refuse to accept the answer because its against your belief. And thats up to you. But for others to know,this question has been answered.
It hasn't been proven and if it had been then I would agree with it. There is not a single story in the OT where God brought the Jews back into the land and then they repented. The deal was REPENT and turn BACK to God THEN go back into the land.
 
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Quote "Do you know of any bibllical instances where God brought Israel back into their land while they still rejected God?"

KJV this has been answered again and again in another forum. You refuse to accept the answer because its against your belief. And thats up to you. But for others to know,this question has been answered.
God was clear about gathering them from all the places he had driven them and then establishing their place in history...numerous verses teach this.....some directly, some allude to it........tells me all I need to know about their understanding...I should say a lack thereof!
 
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There is an awards thread going on in another forum. You just got my nomination the "laying it on the line" award! I appreciate your stand brother.

 
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Sure it was.....and it states a lot about your understanding..........and is tragic!
Maybe you could explain the verses below to help me see where I'm wrong. The childern of the flesh ARE NOT the children of God. I take that to mean FLESH descendants aren't the children of God and ARE NOT counted for the seed.

Romans 9:6-8 KJV
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
[7] Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
[8] That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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It hasn't been proven and if it had been then I would agree with it. There is not a single story in the OT where God brought the Jews back into the land and then they repented. The deal was REPENT and turn BACK to God THEN go back into the land.
Lets see.

Isreal was allowed to rebuild the temple and city after Babylonian and persian exhile.. They did not repent.

Thank you for offering the chance to clear this up.
 
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Maybe you could explain the verses below to help me see where I'm wrong. The childern of the flesh ARE NOT the children of God. I take that to mean FLESH descendants aren't the children of God and ARE NOT counted for the seed.

Romans 9:6-8 KJV
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
[7] Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
[8] That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
been there done that, Please lets not turn another OP upside down..

we can not help it if you understand it or not. We do understand it, and have shared our view. If you disagree, that is fine, MOVE ON!!!
 
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Maybe you could explain the verses below to help me see where I'm wrong. The childern of the flesh ARE NOT the children of God. I take that to mean FLESH descendants aren't the children of God and ARE NOT counted for the seed.

Romans 9:6-8 KJV
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
[7] Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
[8] That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
The children of promise are neither JEW nor GENTILE as the TWO have been made ONE...regardless, this does not ALLEVIATE all the verses that SPEAK to GOD bringing the JEWS back into their OWN LAND at the end of the age.....facing the GREAT TRIB, being preserved in the WILDERNESS, BEING whittled down and the HOUSE of JUDAH being as DAVID and the house of DAVID being as GOD and consuming all on the left and right and then the REMNANT that is left LOOKING upon him COLLECTIVELY and acknowledging HIM......

The bible is clear.....GOD gathers ALL nations to come against JERUSALEM because JESUS is the LION of JUDAH and will rule from HIS throne after he pours out his wrath upon ALL that are gathered against HIS PEOPLE HE WAS A JEW OF THE HOUSE OF DAVID OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH........
 
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I think he's right in his stance.
The problem that I see with the line of thinking that supports the official mainstream-media driven narrative is that it assumes that our governments (keep in mind that the US is Israel's closest ally - they just sent Israel 38 billion dollars in military aid not too long ago) do not lie to the public to mislead them.

But we know that this is garbage. They DO cover their tracks as best as possible under the circumstances, but we start asking questions when we know that we're being misled, so it's a problem for many (scary!) that logic starts to dismantle the official narrative completely when one takes the time to research and think, doing as much as possible to set personal bias aside (such as racism).

You think the wealthy elite and intelligence agencies aren't smart enough to keep their activities out of what the public sees on the TV and reads in the paper?

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kaylagrl

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The problem that I see with the line of thinking that supports the official mainstream-media driven narrative is that it assumes that our governments (keep in mind that the US is Israel's closest ally - they just sent Israel 38 billion dollars in military aid not too long ago) do not lie to the public to mislead them.

But we know that this is garbage. They DO cover their tracks as best as possible under the circumstances, but we start asking questions when we know that we're being misled, so it's a problem for many (scary!) that logic starts to dismantle the official narrative completely when one takes the time to research and think, doing as much as possible to set personal bias aside (such as racism).

You think the wealthy elite and intelligence agencies aren't smart enough to keep their activities out of what the public sees on the TV and reads in the paper?

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You're entitled to think what you like. But the troll meme was out of place.
 
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kaylagrl

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I'll just leave this here...

https://globalnews7.wordpress.com/2...uments-show-u-s-israel-created-islamic-state/

(This was no secret to the community in the know. Snowden confirmed it... again...)

So I looked at your link and find it has two posts. I follow them it to Facebook and there is pretty much nothing there. See this is what I mean about facts.

ISIS Is an American Plot to Destabilize the Region, says Iran

Bloggers: Edward Snowden leaked NSA documents show U.S., Israel created Islamic State | PunditFact




"The only lucid defense of the idea that Western intelligence agencies created the Islamic State intentionally comes from the Center for Research on Globalization (CRG), a Canadian website that bills itself as an alternative news source, but has advanced specious conspiracy theories on topics like 9/11, vaccines and global warming."

In other words they are a false news,conspiracy theory site. What they have said has been debunked by facts.



 
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kaylagrl

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Quote "What terrorist group HASN'T been started by the US and Israel."


​Again, there are no facts to back up this claim.