Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning

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I would offer. One day equals 24 hours. 12 hours of day light called day, used to represent that which is good, and 12 hours of darkness called night to be used to represent evil . Together 24 Hours called one day.

Days 1-3, the glory of the lord was revealed for 12 hours and for 12 hours he concealed that light. Day four The switch came on . The temporal time clock started ticking Day four. and the Sun became the light to govern the day and the moon the reflected or reprepresntiive glory to govern the night.

Interestingly, it would seem the word three is used in the language of the bible to represent the end of the matter .It would seem to be the case in Genesis also, three days to establish his law. The Sun is not the source of spirit life. A common pagan tradition. .

And the evening and the morning were the third day.And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.Genesis1:13-19

In the new order it will revert back to the first three day order . But no darkness needed to be used to represent evil

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the "glory of God" did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maket Revelation 21:22-24
But you want to use 12 hour day and 12 hour night which wasn’t how they measured time back then that is modern terminology. they had no concept of a twelve hour night it was watches in the night of the stars not a clock.

And you say spiritual life and the first 3 days there was no sun so how come your adding those days to your 12 and 12 24 hour day makes no sense. And not saying those days are based on spiritual life. if those days you believe where hidden how come the first three days then they should remain hidden the invention of a modern clock doesn’t reveal those days.
 

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Here's how you reconcile the physical forming of Adam on the 3rd Day of Genesis"

Genesis 2:4-7 shows that man was formed of the dust the ground on the THIRD Day:

v4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

As you noticed, the Earth was made on the THIRD Day. Gen 1:9-10 These verses are documenting the events of the THIRD Day.

v5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
v6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.


Notice that these verses are continuing to identify the time on the THIRD Day BEFORE the plants, herbs, and Trees GREW. Gen 1:12-13

v7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

On the THIRD Day, the SAME Day the Earth was made but BEFORE the plants GREW, the LORD made man of the dust of the ground. Correct? Read the next verses which confirm once again that Scripture is speaking of the THIRD Day.

v8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom He had formed.
v9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.


Notice that the Trees were made AFTER the LORD made Adam on the THIRD Day in total agreement with Gen 1:12-13.

Also notice that man wasn't "created" but was formed out of dust becoming a natural living soul. In fact, Adam wasn't even created in the image and likeness of God until AFTER Eve was made from his rib on the 6th Day. Gen 2:22 .. and committed their “original sin by disobeying our Lord’s commandment.

IOW, Adam was physically formed on the 3rd Day and created in God's Image and likeness or Born Again Spiritually and Eternally on the 6th Day,…. after both A&E already have committed their original sin ; AFTER Cain had already killed Abel. In fact, the actual Creation Event took place during Seth’ generations… when men started to call upon the name of the Lord - Gen 4:26; Gen 5:1-2

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. v46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

Amen?
 
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evening dusk and morning dawn. Aka twilight. Unmeasurable without a modern clock.
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And those can be defined even smaller.

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Sorry brethren, but again, there was no 24 Hour Day and Genesis 1&2 do not state that there was a 24 hour Day during God's Creative Days. The Un-Scriptural idea, that the 6 Creative Days and the 1 Day of Rest in Genesis 1&2, are 24 hour periods of Time, is refuted by Scripture in sooooooo many ways. The 7th Day has no End.

Since God sees the end from the beginning, Isa 46:10 He wrote the complete HISTORY of His Seven Days in the first 34 verses of Genesis. ALL of the rest of the Bible refers BACK to One of the 7 Days of Creation, shown in it's Entirety. It opens up many of the mysteries which ancient men traditional view could NOT have understood and it reveals the Literal God because it shows us the FUTURE since No man of the time could have told us of the events at the end of the present 6th Day, which will NOT take place until AFTER Jesus returns to this planet.

Therefore, Today, we are still living at Gen 1:27 as we speak Today, and the rest of Genesis 1:28-31 takes place AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon.

Below, are few more Biblical Proof Texts for your perusal and serious study:

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

This is a Future event which will take place in the thousand year reign of Christ on this Earth. At that time, Humans will be given dominion or rule over EVERY living thing that moves on this Earth. That includes Mosquitoes, Viruses and Sharks. It is something which has NEVER taken place on Planet Earth Before, as the next verses show:

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, AND EVERY TREE, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Again this is a prophecy of the Future since we will NOT eat from the Tree of Life until All Christians are in the New Heaven. Rev 22:14

Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Another future happening, except the end of this prophecy is clearly shown in:

Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

When you read the verse in context, this event happens AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at Armageddon. Isa 11:1-7

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Finally God's Creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven is complete and Earth is Safe for a thousand years. Then, and only then, will the God, Who sees the end from the beginning, says, It is very good, at the end of the present 6th Day of labor in which God is making a perfect heaven and filling it with His Immortal Children, called Christians.

God bless
 
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The chronology of Adam's years as a "living"started counting only after he was Born Again spiritually in the Image and Likeness of God during Seth’ generations...
The Chronology I have posted is based literally in what the own Most High God and Almighty revealed to Moses, and Moses recorded it
in the book, as is described in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:


Genesis 5 (KJV) - God's Chronology


1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the Day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. (He died after 930 years after his desobedience)

6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:

7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:

8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.

9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:

10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:

11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.

12 And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel:

13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:

14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.

15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:

16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:

17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.

18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:

19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:


24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.

26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:

27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.


28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:

29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed. (Genesis 3:v.17: And unto Adam God said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; ...)

30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:

31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.


32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Adam's years as a "living"started counting only after he was Born Again spiritually ...
The age of Adam, as is written above, begins after the fall in the Garden of Eden, having him disobeyed the Word of God believing in the spirit of Devil, and automatically his celestial nature transformed itself in human and animal nature, and from Adam was born Cain, yes, first was born a son of Devil, a seed of the spirit of the Devil, the former Cherub and ruler of Eden, understand? By the way, Cain was of the Devil.

I think it is impossible to contest the Chronology revealed by own God Almighty to Moses, what do you think? and it was recorded by Moses in the book, as I quoted above. To contest God Almighty as many tryes to do, it is very hard and danger too.
 
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Sorry brethren, but again, there was no 24 Hour Day and Genesis 1&2 do not state that there was a 24 hour Day during God's Creative Days. The Un-Scriptural idea, that the 6 Creative Days and the 1 Day of Rest in Genesis 1&2, are 24 hour periods of Time, is refuted by Scripture in sooooooo many ways. The 7th Day has no End.

Since God sees the end from the beginning, Isa 46:10 He wrote the complete HISTORY of His Seven Days in the first 34 verses of Genesis. ALL of the rest of the Bible refers BACK to One of the 7 Days of Creation, shown in it's Entirety. It opens up many of the mysteries which ancient men traditional view could NOT have understood and it reveals the Literal God because it shows us the FUTURE since No man of the time could have told us of the events at the end of the present 6th Day, which will NOT take place until AFTER Jesus returns to this planet.

Therefore, Today, we are still living at Gen 1:27 as we speak Today, and the rest of Genesis 1:28-31 takes place AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon.

Below, are few more Biblical Proof Texts for your perusal and serious study:

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

This is a Future event which will take place in the thousand year reign of Christ on this Earth. At that time, Humans will be given dominion or rule over EVERY living thing that moves on this Earth. That includes Mosquitoes, Viruses and Sharks. It is something which has NEVER taken place on Planet Earth Before, as the next verses show:

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, AND EVERY TREE, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Again this is a prophecy of the Future since we will NOT eat from the Tree of Life until All Christians are in the New Heaven. Rev 22:14

Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Another future happening, except the end of this prophecy is clearly shown in:

Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

When you read the verse in context, this event happens AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at Armageddon. Isa 11:1-7

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Finally God's Creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven is complete and Earth is Safe for a thousand years. Then, and only then, will the God, Who sees the end from the beginning, says, It is very good, at the end of the present 6th Day of labor in which God is making a perfect heaven and filling it with His Immortal Children, called Christians.

God bless
Hmm but God is always at work even today how can he rest and work at the same time?
 
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If Adams soul was before creation then every soul would be before creation, God doesn’t do one and not the others.
 
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Sorry brethren, but again, there was no 24 Hour Day and Genesis 1&2 do not state that there was a 24 hour Day during God's Creative Days. The Un-Scriptural idea, that the 6 Creative Days and the 1 Day of Rest in Genesis 1&2, are 24 hour periods of Time, is refuted by Scripture in sooooooo many ways. The 7th Day has no End.
Nevertheless the time is getting closer, and it is time to correct the doctrines.

2 Perer 3:v.8KJV - 8 But, beloved, be not IGNORANT of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.

Yes, actually the time is much more closer than you all think.

About the seven Biblical periods, six of them have closed by complete. We just entered in the seventh and last Biblical period.

Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet. 3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND will go through six God days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

In accord biblical Chronology God revealed to Moses, we can number our days (human days, the days of mankind), beginning in Genesis chap.5, as follow:

Adam lived …......................................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived ...........................................................105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived ...........................................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived...........................................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived ..................................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived ..........................................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived ..........................................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;
Methuselah lived..............................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived ....................................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
From Noah´s birth until the Flood...........600 yrs.
Total of yrs from Adam to the Flood =1,656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not of human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not by human theories and speculations, but by the own Word of God.

See the table below:

PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES ------------------------------------------ DURATION
I - From Adam until the Flood-----------------------------------------1,656 years (as was showed above)
II - From the Flood until Abraham-------------------------------------. 427 years
III - From Abraham until Exodus---------------------------------------. 430 years (Galatians 3:v.17)
IV - From Exodus until king Saul --------------------------------------. 396 years
V - From Saul until the fall of Jerusalem ----------------------------.. 508 years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem until Jesus --------------------------- 587 years
Thus, from Adam until the 1st coming of Jesus ------------------. 4,004 years

From Jesus until our days (Christian Calendar)--------------------. 2,018 years
Total of days from Adam until our days ----------------------------. . 6,022 years


Jesus came in the fourth Day (the Greater Light, yes, the Greater Light, - Gen.1:v.16) or around 4.000 years from the beginning of God's Plan of restoration of all things.

From JESUS (fourth Day) until our days, have passed more two Days or around 2,000 years, totalizing 6 complete Days or six milleniums, or around 6.000 years, more precisely 6.018 years, according Christian Calendar pointing the transiction from year 2.018 to 2019.


So, we have entered in the FIRST century of the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day of God's time, that is the Great Sabbath, the Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of Truth, the Millennium of Judgment - the Judgment Seat of Christ - and the Millennium of Vengeance in accord Scriptures.

God Father has already entered in His rest - seventh Day - as He had planned in the beginning of His works, but He is not sleeping, of course, and JESUS already assumed the government not only of the whole Earth but also of the Universe. JESUS is now sat on His Throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ.

The world of Devil is already Judged, and Condemned, and now, in this seventh and last millennium, the world of Devil with all its structures, religious, politic, economic, military, social, cultural, etc., will be punished with strong punishments, yea, strong punishments, there will be only and only punishments in this seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, the Day of the Lord JESUS, King of kings and LORD of lords.

JESUS is now sat on His Throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ, to Judge all nations, taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not His gospel, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the Glory of His Power.

And the kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the KINGDOMS of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever. (Rev.11:15)

verse 18 says: And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come (the wrath of God Almighty), and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth.
 

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Nevertheless the time is getting closer, and it is time to correct the doctrines.

2 Perer 3:v.8KJV - 8 But, beloved, be not IGNORANT of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.

Yes, actually the time is much more closer than you all think.

About the seven Biblical periods, six of them have closed by complete. We just entered in the seventh and last Biblical period.

Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet. 3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND will go through six God days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

In accord biblical Chronology God revealed to Moses, we can number our days (human days, the days of mankind), beginning in Genesis chap.5, as follow:

Adam lived …......................................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived ...........................................................105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived ...........................................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived...........................................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived ..................................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived ..........................................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived ..........................................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;
Methuselah lived..............................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived ....................................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
From Noah´s birth until the Flood...........600 yrs.
Total of yrs from Adam to the Flood =1,656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not of human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not by human theories and speculations, but by the own Word of God.

See the table below:

PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES ------------------------------------------ DURATION
I - From Adam until the Flood-----------------------------------------1,656 years (as was showed above)
II - From the Flood until Abraham-------------------------------------. 427 years
III - From Abraham until Exodus---------------------------------------. 430 years (Galatians 3:v.17)
IV - From Exodus until king Saul --------------------------------------. 396 years
V - From Saul until the fall of Jerusalem ----------------------------.. 508 years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem until Jesus --------------------------- 587 years
Thus, from Adam until the 1st coming of Jesus ------------------. 4,004 years

From Jesus until our days (Christian Calendar)--------------------. 2,018 years
Total of days from Adam until our days ----------------------------. . 6,022 years


Jesus came in the fourth Day (the Greater Light, yes, the Greater Light, - Gen.1:v.16) or around 4.000 years from the beginning of God's Plan of restoration of all things.

From JESUS (fourth Day) until our days, have passed more two Days or around 2,000 years, totalizing 6 complete Days or six milleniums, or around 6.000 years, more precisely 6.018 years, according Christian Calendar pointing the transiction from year 2.018 to 2019.

So, we have entered in the FIRST century of the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day of God's time, that is the Great Sabbath, the Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of Truth, the Millennium of Judgment - the Judgment Seat of Christ - and the Millennium of Vengeance in accord Scriptures.

God Father has already entered in His rest - seventh Day - as He had planned in the beginning of His works, but He is not sleeping, of course, and JESUS already assumed the government not only of the whole Earth but also of the Universe. JESUS is now sat on His Throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ.

The world of Devil is already Judged, and Condemned, and now, in this seventh and last millennium, the world of Devil with all its structures, religious, politic, economic, military, social, cultural, etc., will be punished with strong punishments, yea, strong punishments, there will be only and only punishments in this seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, the Day of the Lord JESUS, King of kings and LORD of lords.

JESUS is now sat on His Throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ, to Judge all nations, taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not His gospel, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the Glory of His Power.

And the kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the KINGDOMS of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever. (Rev.11:15)

verse 18 says: And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come (the wrath of God Almighty), and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth.
Overspiritualized and inadequately grounded in Scripture.

This sounds like 7th Day Adventist or even JW propaganda... lots of Scripture thrown at you with the surface appearance of sense, logic, and correctness, but the sheer volume hides the inconsistencies, deviations, misinterpretations and outright errors.
 

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If Adams soul was before creation then every soul would be before creation, God doesn’t do one and not the others.
God always was and always will be so therefore God was aware us for as long as He has been God and that is forever and ever.
 
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God always was and always will be so therefore God was aware us for as long as He has been God and that is forever and ever.
Aware of us I do believe, but was our souls before creation? that something to ponder. Does he breathe living souls into man today or create living souls into man today
 
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The OP does got a point on that, for God breathed a living soul into Adam, either it was newly created or from long before that or it was dead then he brought it to life and placed then living soul into man.
 
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Just a thought here Maybe after the fall, every soul is dead in humans until it’s brought to life.
 

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The Chronology I have posted is based literally in what the own Most High God and Almighty revealed to Moses, and Moses recorded it
in the book, as is described in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:


Genesis 5 (KJV) - God's Chronology

1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the Day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. (He died after 930 years after his desobedience)

6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:

7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:

8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.

9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:

10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:

11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.

12 And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel:

13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:

14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.

15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:

16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:

17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.

18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:

19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:

24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.

26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:

27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.

28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:

29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed. (Genesis 3:v.17: And unto Adam God said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; ...)

30 And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:

31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.

32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.



The age of Adam, as is written above, begins after the fall in the Garden of Eden, having him disobeyed the Word of God believing in the spirit of Devil, and automatically his celestial nature transformed itself in human and animal nature, and from Adam was born Cain, yes, first was born a son of Devil, a seed of the spirit of the Devil, the former Cherub and ruler of Eden, understand? By the way, Cain was of the Devil.

I think it is impossible to contest the Chronology revealed by own God Almighty to Moses, what do you think? and it was recorded by Moses in the book, as I quoted above. To contest God Almighty as many tryes to do, it is very hard and danger too.
I am so sorry, can you please TRY AGAIN:

Below is my UNEDITED QUOTE…. See if you can explain your self - without editing my quotes - contrary to what I have claimed and posted based on the thrust of the complete thought/message I have provided below. THANK YOU.

2Pillars said:
The chronology of Adam's years as a "living"started counting only after he was Born Again spiritually in the Image and Likeness of God during Seth’ generations. That's also why Eve is called the "Mother of all the living". Biblically speaking, those who are NOT yet born again spiritually are considered by the Scripture as "Dead" and not "Living".

Therefore, the number of years of those who were not yet born again spiritually, are NOT INCLUDED in record of the chronology of the number of years as a "LIVING" in the image and likeness of God - as recorded in the Genealogy listings in the Scripture - from the birth Jesus thru Mary’s womb back to Seth .... simply because they are considered "Dead" and not "Living" by the Scripture. The number of LIVING - days/years - started counting only after being Born Again spiritually in the image and likeness of God. Why? Again, simply because....

He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err. Mar 12:27

Therefore, the basis of dating methodology leaves thousands of years more .... (if not double).... to be added to the flawed estimated numbers of years to the Universal Flood of 6K (?) only ... at the time Noah set foot on this present planet of ours.

Note: Adam lived with Jesus for Billions of years before he disobeyed because he was made in a perfect body with a Shekinah Glory like that of Jesus. Adam lived in a body like those which Christians will have in heaven and so did Eve. Some denominations teach that death came into the world then, but Scripture shows that death came unto mankind (Heb-Adam) because he sinned.
 
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I think I’m catching on 2pillars, God did say He breathed a living soul into Adam, thus was alive before entering the human vessel, interesting
 
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The Adam being Jesus thing makes me wonder, why would Jesus disobey His Father. if so that means Jesus sinned at some point in time. Or Adam had a living soul breathed into him like Jesus being breathe into a vessel, sent.
 
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This sounds like 7th Day Adventist or even JW propaganda..
I am not follower of the sects you are speaking, that's the manifestation of the spirit of lie on you trying to sow confusion in this Christian forum. .
 

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The OP does got a point on that, for God breathed a living soul into Adam, either it was newly created or from long before that or it was dead then he brought it to life and placed then living soul into man.
Man became a natural living soul after he was formed from the dust of the ground and was given a breath of life by our Lord God, the Son, on the 3rd Day. However, Man did not have the Quickening Spirit or Holy Spirit YET at that time.... because, it takes the agreement of the Trinity (Father, Son and the Holy Spirit) to make a spiritual being - just like when a person is Born Again spiritually in the image and likeness of God.

1Cor 15:45-46 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. v46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.