Understanding God’s election
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They didn't just look at anything. Did they look at a camel? Nope. Did they look at a palm tree? Nope. They looked at the serpent because God said it would lead to their healing.
So let's reflect. People heard the word of God, placed their faith in what God said would save them, and were saved. Sounds like Romans 10:17 and Ephesians 2:8-9.
So let's reflect. People heard the word of God, placed their faith in what God said would save them, and were saved. Sounds like Romans 10:17 and Ephesians 2:8-9.
Also, while I think of it, all freewillers, I presented another huge problem between the man-centered FTW and unregenerate man's "freewill" choice save himself. I asked GWH if he thought God is pleased with such decisions. And predictably, he appealed to Lk 15:10 for his answer. Yet, just as predictably he forgot all about Rom 8:8 which basically teaches that those who live according to flesh (which is all that any unregenerate person can do) cannot please God.
So...how can God, all at once and simultaneously, be pleased with fleshly choices that were made apart from the indwelling Holy Spirit and not be pleased with them?
So...how can God, all at once and simultaneously, be pleased with fleshly choices that were made apart from the indwelling Holy Spirit and not be pleased with them?
And, freewillers, I'm still waiting for an intelligent, coherent answer to Jesus' four words in Mat 7:23, i.e. "I never knew you". Since you freewillers understand Rom 8:9; 11:2 to be teaching God's prescience which you think forms the basis to his election, then how is it that Christ won't be omniscient on judgment day in Mat 7:23?
OR...if you think Mat 7:23 isn't referring to Christ's omniscience when he returns in Glory to judge the living and dead, then reconcile that understanding with your opposing views on Rom 8:29; 11:2 which you insist is dealing with God's omniscience.
OR...if you think Mat 7:23 is dealing with the eternal absence or deprivation of Christ's personal, intimate, covenantal affection (as Genez does or did) , then how can this be since God loves everyone unconditionally throughout eternity? And if you think this is what Mat 7:23 is truly teaching, then why do you arbitrarily read "omniscience" into Rom 8:29; 11:2, etc.?
WAKE UP, freewillers! Y'all actin' like a bunch of DEAD people! Give me some intelligent, rational, coherent and biblically-based answers already!
OR...if you think Mat 7:23 isn't referring to Christ's omniscience when he returns in Glory to judge the living and dead, then reconcile that understanding with your opposing views on Rom 8:29; 11:2 which you insist is dealing with God's omniscience.
OR...if you think Mat 7:23 is dealing with the eternal absence or deprivation of Christ's personal, intimate, covenantal affection (as Genez does or did) , then how can this be since God loves everyone unconditionally throughout eternity? And if you think this is what Mat 7:23 is truly teaching, then why do you arbitrarily read "omniscience" into Rom 8:29; 11:2, etc.?
WAKE UP, freewillers! Y'all actin' like a bunch of DEAD people! Give me some intelligent, rational, coherent and biblically-based answers already!
Here I was expecting to read an in-depth well thought out refutation of biblical theology.
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