Understanding God’s election

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Magenta

Magenta

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Romans 9:18; John 6:44; John 6:65; John 6:37; John 6:63; Titus 3:5 ~ God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. The Spirit gives life; the flesh profits nothing. He saved us because of His mercy, through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
 
fredoheaven

fredoheaven

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HeIsHere said:
Because this system is a "construct of men's imagination" sprinkled with some truth, it is like what John Piper states in his book “Five Points”......

He asserts that he will start with the Scriptures and end with TULIP.

But in reality he ends up defending TULIP with Scripture.

Typically they are very defensive and even though they have Google putting their websites at the tippy top of the search list the tide is turning, but not fast enough.

Yet, since it appeals to the ego it will probably never go away...... but to the very back of the closet would be good!
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Yep, tulip ends when the scripture begins.
 
Genez

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Magenta said:

Romans 9:18; John 6:44; John 6:65; John 6:37; John 6:63; Titus 3:5 ~ God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. The Spirit gives life; the flesh profits nothing. He saved us because of His mercy, through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
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John 6:44

“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them,
and I will raise them up at the last day. "


Why did Jesus say that?

Becuase he was rebuking the Jewish salvation by works crowd who were seeking new works to do in order to secure salvation.
 
HeIsHere

HeIsHere

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Genez said:
John 6:44

“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them,
and I will raise them up at the last day. "


Why did Jesus say that?

Because he was rebuking the Jewish salvation by works crowd who were seeking new works to do in order to secure salvation.
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Context what's that?
 
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