Understanding God’s election

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studier

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In other words, weak Ad Hominem attacks are how you answer Scripture that disagrees with your theory. Couple that to a Red Herring fallacy and an Argument of Repetition fallacy.

@GWH might say your Thesis was addressed with my Antithesis and now potential Synthesis is sabotaged by fallacious argumentation.
 

Rufus

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In other words, weak Ad Hominem attacks are how you answer Scripture that disagrees with your theory. Couple that to a Red Herring fallacy and an Argument of Repetition fallacy.

@GWH might say your Thesis was addressed with my Antithesis and now potential Synthesis is sabotaged by fallacious argumentation.
Not weak! Factual. You just CANNOT answer the rhetorical question in Jer 13:23 because God has not graced you with the courage to do so. Answer the question and then I'll demolish your "proof text" that you allege disagrees with my "theory".
 

studier

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I can hardly wait.
More of the same fallacies.
Proof-texting? You don't note the tie between Scriptures of Paul speaking of the time he was persecuting the Church of God and how Acts elaborates about God's very special event of saving grace in Paul's experience? Then you didn't note my mention about His being an Apostle by grace?
Let's see some actual Scriptural work apart from the obnoxious fallacies, if you can do either.
 
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How so? When Scripture says there are none good, does it mean some are good but we will ignore that for now? When Scripture says we all fall short, does it mean we all fall short, or does it mean there are some who meet God's standards, but we are not talking about them right now? When Scripture says, "The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned..." Does it mean the natural man can understand the spiritual things of God? Does it mean he really can understand the gospel message even though it is heard as foolishness to him as Scriptures say? Is the natural man gifted with wisdom even though he has no fear of God which is the beginning of wisdom, according to Scripture? Will the lover of darkness come into the light even though Scripture says he will not, because he suppresses the truth of God in unrighteousness and is a lover of darkness, is actually defined as darkness itself, hates the light, and is a slave to sin, blinded to the truth and captive to the will of the devil, which many define as being free? Is the heart of the natural man, the stony ground that it is, fit for receiving and growing the Seed of God's Word into faith? Will that incurably wicked heart choose of its own accord to believe? Do you know how many here say everyone hears even though that contradicts what Jesus said? So odd to see so many claim when these verses about the natural man are given, claim they are being taken out of context when they are universal axioms.
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Rufus

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I can hardly wait.
More of the same fallacies.
Proof-texting? You don't note the tie between Scriptures of Paul speaking of the time he was persecuting the Church of God and how Acts elaborates about God's very special event of saving grace in Paul's experience? Then you didn't note my mention about His being an Apostle by grace?
Let's see some actual Scriptural work apart from the obnoxious fallacies, if you can do either .
Blah, blah, blah, says the blather expert. You have the unmitigated, arrogant chutzpah about my "obnoxious fallacies". :rolleyes:

Give us the "yes" or "no" answer to the rhetorical question asked in Jer 13:23 and I'll show you how easy it is to demolish your "proof text". Why are you such a coward. Don't you know that God is not very fond of cowards?
 
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In other words, weak Ad Hominem attacks are how you answer Scripture that disagrees with your theory. Couple that to a Red Herring fallacy and an Argument of Repetition fallacy.

@GWH might say your Thesis was addressed with my Antithesis and now potential Synthesis is sabotaged by fallacious argumentation.
ping-
 

studier

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@GWH actually I'm the ponger to the pinger. I tried the Antithesis to the Thesis but all I got in response was a nasty ping.

@Rufus you really don't have much capability do you. Just fallacious arguments and trash-talk. Post a Thesis, get an Antithesis response, go directly to trash-talk and remain there getting worse. I suppose this is your demolishing my use of Scripture to compare to your post of a couple verses of Scripture. We should both probably do an extended study on grace that you were trying to teach us about. Care to undertake one?

#14,131 pot & kettle.
 

Rufus

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@GWH actually I'm the ponger to the pinger. I tried the Antithesis to the Thesis but all I got in response was a nasty ping.

@Rufus you really don't have much capability do you. Just fallacious arguments and trash-talk. Post a Thesis, get an Antithesis response, go directly to trash-talk and remain there getting worse. I suppose this is your demolishing my use of Scripture to compare to your post of a couple verses of Scripture. We should both probably do an extended study on grace that you were trying to teach us about. Care to undertake one?

#14,131 pot & kettle.
You also need to beg, borrow or steal some reading skills. AGAIN: I'll be very happy to defend my interpretation of 1Cor 15:9-10 as soon as you give me a straight "yes" or "no" answer to the rhetorical question in Jer 13:23. (Comprende?) Meanwhile, go and play ping pong with your buddy who has as few answers as you do. There aren't two peas in a pod more deserving of one another than you two heretics who will stoop to anything to advance your perversion to the true Gospel.