Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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JTB

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While it is nothing new in our country. This mandate by the president is new and troubling

They need to let this Go.

The vaccine should not even be on the news. It never was. If people wanted it they took it. If they did not no one complained (Well I was forced to take the measles as a kid. Even though my doctors said I did not have to take it) so like I said, it has happened before)

We need to put down our masks. Go out. And live our lives and open this country up. If people get sick, they get sick.
Ah ... back to the "sucks to be you" response.
 

JTB

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This is just another dumb piece of fake news. If governments want to depopulate, they don't spend a squillion on vaccines. They let the disease run its course. It kills far more than the vaccination does.
It's funny how governments want to control people (which is true) so they can kill them (false - what good will dead citizens do for the gov'ment?)
 
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Trump loves Diet Coke...I hate Diet Coke. I’m not a Trump lover, just agreed with most of his policies.
I voted for Trump because I don't vote Left.
I did enjoy how he irritated the Left and the [energy] the Left spent trying to find him guilty on many Impeachable Accounts.
But I wouldn't follow him to climb an ant hill to get to the honey on the other side.
But Trump and Pence are not Naturally Science first kind of people. They are the kind of people that wouldn't TRUST and need to know what was all inside the Vaccination. And that for me is a good sign the Vaccination is Legit.
 

SteveEpperson

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I apologize to those on this forum for not praying to the Lord for your protection from this horrible disease that's taken so many lives.

However, I promise to do that going forward.

I also repent of my unwillingness to go to Father God for His direction with regards to taking the vaccine. I simply did it without His counsel, and he's been gracious enough to forgive me for that.

So, I encourage everyone here to be a better follower than me and simply pray for God's guidance in this matter.
 
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Ah ... back to the "sucks to be you" response.
Just reality.

It has been that way my whole life. It just changed since Covid. Why is that? Because it has become politicized
 

John146

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I voted for Trump because I don't vote Left.
I did enjoy how he irritated the Left and the [energy] the Left spent trying to find him guilty on many Impeachable Accounts.
But I wouldn't follow him to climb an ant hill to get to the honey on the other side.
But Trump and Pence are not Naturally Science first kind of people. They are the kind of people that wouldn't TRUST and need to know what was all inside the Vaccination. And that for me is a good sign the Vaccination is Legit.
Do you know the 2 year efficacy of the shot? 5 year? 10 year? Of course not, it has not been around that long. I trust my immune system and the frontline meds that have been around, used, and trusted.
 

John146

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It's funny how governments want to control people (which is true) so they can kill them (false - what good will dead citizens do for the gov'ment?)
If Satan is controlling them, then there’s your explanation. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own because he is a liar and the father of it.
 

JohnDB

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Long term studies and effects of mRNA vaccines have been done...
Over 10 years and counting.
They are safe.

Long term coronavirus studies have also been done...they kill and shorten lifespans. Often crippling everyone once infected or creating birth defects in the next generation.

I totally like the Vaccines...

That being said.
I'm not in agreement with the new vaccine mandates. It's a human rights violation. Yes, previously in history there has been vaccine mandates... government officials broke the laws back then too.

But...most of the antivaxxers propaganda is coming from nations who don't have American or European best interests at heart. In fact they desire our downfall.

This should have been stopped last summer of '19. But congress didn't do anything then... during the election it was known that the foreign money was influencing it through social media and was allowed to continue because of back door bribery and agreeing with what was happening for a while.

But basically the social media platforms were allowed to be publishers instead of platforms in violation of their prosecutorial exemption....and they agreed with the money pouring in affecting elections.

Sure the antivax campaigns are bogus lies aimed at destroying conservative Christians...but many are swallowing it hook, line and sinker to their doom and the next generations doom.

I'm thinking God wants rid of the ones that believe these lies too from earth as well... otherwise they wouldn't believe such a delusion. Such a pity...

Unfortunately I have to stay behind...I got a long road in front of me. I don't know where it's going...but it's been interesting. I'm guessing God wants to clean out all the noise so the clear, calm voices can be heard...
 

John146

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Long term studies and effects of mRNA vaccines have been done...
Over 10 years and counting.
But not for this particular virus strand that has gain of function thanks to Facui and the Wuhan lab.
 

John146

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Sure the antivax campaigns are bogus lies aimed at destroying conservative Christians...but many are swallowing it hook, line and sinker to their doom and the next generations doom.
Can you provide proof for such a bold statement?
 

John146

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I'm thinking God wants rid of the ones that believe these lies too from earth as well... otherwise they wouldn't believe such a delusion. Such a pity...
Wow! What a statement! Speaking on the behalf of God...
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Why would Donald Trump and Mike Pence be first 2 Injected if the Vaccine was a FRAUD?
I really liked Donald Trump as The American President but do I have to agree with him on everything under the sun? No.

This jab doesn't work the same way as a vaccine. The science you so admire does not agree with your narrative.

They are not injecting a viral fragment but a code in the form of mRNA. Not to stimulate the immune system
but to turn the body into a factory producing S1 spike proteins similar to those found in coronavirus.
This isn't any secret or "conspiracy theory"


It's irrelevant what the ingredients are. They are injecting a code to make the body produce a pathogen.
And then hoping that the pathogen the body produces also elicits an immune response.


This can't honestly be called anything other than an experiment on the global population.
You may offer yourself as a guinea pig. I will not. You really don't have any right to counsel others to do so or to claim that
this experiment is safe in the long term. No one can possibly know these injections are safe. It's a gamble.
 

John146

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Its quite obvious. Just stating the obvious. It's not new information.
God wants to eliminate those who are against the vaccine? ok, still over a 99% survival rate. If that were true of God, there would not be a survival rate.
 

JohnDB

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I really liked Donald Trump as The American President but do I have to agree with him on everything under the sun? No.

This jab doesn't work the same way as a vaccine. The science you so admire does not agree with your narrative.

They are not injecting a viral fragment but a code in the form of mRNA. Not to stimulate the immune system,
but to turn the body into a factory producing S1 spike proteins similar to those found in coronavirus.
This isn't any secret or "conspiracy theory"


It's irrelevant what the ingredients are. They are injecting a code to make the body produce a pathogen.
And then hoping that the pathogen the body produces also elicits an immune response.


This can't honestly be called anything other than an experiment on the global population.
You may offer yourself as a guinea pig. I will not. You really don't have any right to counsel others to do so or to claim that
this experiment is safe in the long term. No one can possibly know these injections are safe. It's a gamble.
Nope...

Ok... stepping out of your front door triggers an mRNA reaction...so does standing up, drinking water or anything else you do. (Including reading this post)

The mRNA technology for these vaccines doesn't create the spike protein in your lymph nodes it creates antibodies against those spikes. It is the first step before the second step of communicating with your other lymphatic system nodes to create the antibodies as well.

Complicated but simple at the same time.
Your body manufactures billions of various antibodies. More of specific ones as a real infection sets in. But it was a real feat of science to find the specific ones that work on this virus.

From what I heard they went "fishing" in a reduced pool of antibodies to find the right ones. (In a slide under a microscope) for the antibody cocktail they are currently using.
 

JohnDB

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God wants to eliminate those who are against the vaccine? ok, still over a 99% survival rate. If that were true of God, there would not be a survival rate.
Not a chance...God does things in his own way... besides God is always good. This unforgiving planet and universe is going to kill you. And God is only going to extend so much grace for mankind.
You exceed the grace allotted and have the consequences. Christians more easily exceed their earthly grace by handling the Holy. And currently they are doing exactly that.
 

JohnDB

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All these people who claim to be up on the latest science but can't even name the Virology, epidemiology and immunology centers of research in America.

And then we have all these "scientists" who aren't from any of these locations performing research that disputes the efficacy of these vaccines...what a laugh. And the antivaxxers believe it too...that's the sick thing.

PHD Donald Duck chief researcher at MMU declares the results of a 500,000 person study that says the Vaccines give you gas and possibly so much you will blow up and pop like a balloon....
Film at 11.
 

John146

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Not a chance...God does things in his own way... besides God is always good. This unforgiving planet and universe is going to kill you. And God is only going to extend so much grace for mankind.
You exceed the grace allotted and have the consequences. Christians more easily exceed their earthly grace by handling the Holy. And currently they are doing exactly that.
These same scientists who believe there are 67 genders?

Why has the government suppressed successful treatment as the frontline meds? To push a vaccine? To force people to be compliant to the government's desires?
 

JohnDB

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These same scientists who believe there are 67 genders?

Why has the government suppressed successful treatment as the frontline meds? To push a vaccine? To force people to be compliant to the government's desires?
Nope...

Prevention is better than treatment because of the variants. At a guess that's why they want to vaccinate as much as possible.

Viruses are not ever going to stop spreading. We have had 100 years of influenza Vaccines and we still have the flu. But the day is coming that a very deadly variant of influenza will appear. Same thing with Covid.

Get used to that concept.
 

John146

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Nope...

Prevention is better than treatment because of the variants. At a guess that's why they want to vaccinate as much as possible.

Viruses are not ever going to stop spreading. We have had 100 years of influenza Vaccines and we still have the flu. But the day is coming that a very deadly variant of influenza will appear. Same thing with Covid.

Get used to that concept.
The shots do not prevent. Division is their intent. It's working. Let's not allow it to divide the body of Christ.
 
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