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it appears this is the Physicians remedy for Adam for listening to his wife
Gen 3
17And to Adam He said:
“Because you have listened to the voice of your wife
and have eaten of the tree
from which I commanded you not to eat,
cursed is the ground because of you;
through toil you will eat of it
all the days of your life.
18Both thorns and thistles it will yield for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your bread,
until you return to the ground—
because out of it were you taken.
For dust you are,
and to dust you shall return.”
Gen 3
17And to Adam He said:
“Because you have listened to the voice of your wife
and have eaten of the tree
from which I commanded you not to eat,
cursed is the ground because of you;
through toil you will eat of it
all the days of your life.
18Both thorns and thistles it will yield for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your bread,
until you return to the ground—
because out of it were you taken.
For dust you are,
and to dust you shall return.”
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As a wage for violating the law. Thou shal not eat. It would appear that when God corrupted the whole earth work represented by sweat was introduced in the picture.
Prior to that the earth yielded the food. They lost the rest sabbath. Sowing and reaping began
Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return
Prior to that the earth yielded the food. They lost the rest sabbath. Sowing and reaping began
Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return
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The cursing of the ground is "for your sake" - - that's a good thing. It's for our benefit. That's difficult to understand, ain't it?
See, so far in this thread we've basically only been talking about the easy questions, IMO. There are really difficult things here no one has even mentioned yet
See, so far in this thread we've basically only been talking about the easy questions, IMO. There are really difficult things here no one has even mentioned yet
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The bruising of the heel is not about government at all. It is about Christ's death on the cross. You continually conflate unrelated ideas and turn sound theology into mush.
That's not what Genesis 3:15 addresses.
Genesis 3:15 foreshadows the death of Christ and the destruction of the enemy, but that is not "the understanding hidden".
That's not what Genesis 3:15 addresses.
Genesis 3:15 foreshadows the death of Christ and the destruction of the enemy, but that is not "the understanding hidden".
I would agree.
Its interesting the wage was changed when the first martyr Abel who walked by faith (believed in a God not seen) was murdered. The first literal murder from the father of lies .A murderer from the beginning.
Therefore establishing the pagan order of atheism (no savoir. . no rest) Something that I would call; the out of sight out of mind religion of the world. The lie. . Just murder the misperceived competition. Cain could not see into the heart of Abel .God alone can and does. Cain again establishing the religion of the world .took Abel out in the field and plowed him under. . . . Hoping God did not see the difference between corn and flesh .
Rather than a normal work load it was increased and became heavy laden as the suffering of hell. . . a burden that Cain could not bear.
The burden that Christ did bear (the suffering of hell) By his work of suffering according as it written we can rest in His love.
When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.Genesis 4:12-13
Its interesting the wage was changed when the first martyr Abel who walked by faith (believed in a God not seen) was murdered. The first literal murder from the father of lies .A murderer from the beginning.
Therefore establishing the pagan order of atheism (no savoir. . no rest) Something that I would call; the out of sight out of mind religion of the world. The lie. . Just murder the misperceived competition. Cain could not see into the heart of Abel .God alone can and does. Cain again establishing the religion of the world .took Abel out in the field and plowed him under. . . . Hoping God did not see the difference between corn and flesh .
Rather than a normal work load it was increased and became heavy laden as the suffering of hell. . . a burden that Cain could not bear.
The burden that Christ did bear (the suffering of hell) By his work of suffering according as it written we can rest in His love.
When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.Genesis 4:12-13
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The bruising of the heel is not about government at all. It is about Christ's death on the cross. You continually conflate unrelated ideas and turn sound theology into mush.
All things that pertain to the gospel work together to give us the peace of God that surpases all understanding.
I am offering my private interpretation as a personal commentary just as you are. You could say. Sharing the bread.
It would seem we hear the author of the faith that works in us a little differently coming from walks of life. You seem to be blessed with a good education .. I hated my teachers. . that I do love today .thanks
Is it sound theology when someone makes the claim parables and tongues are not prophecy? How sound is that?
The death of the cross is a picture of bruising the heel used to represent the unseen government of God. It is hid in parables . The father and Son working as one to bring the peace of God that surpasses our understanding .
You could say revealed in parables which without he spoke not. . Again parables teach us how to walk by faith after the unseen eternal Spirit that we have in these bodies of death.(not of us)
Mark and Luke 9 give a great interpretation of that work of using parables to teach us how to hear God, the eternal And not man, the temporal.
All things that pertain to the gospel work together to give us the peace of God that surpases all understanding.
I am offering my private interpretation as a personal commentary just as you are. You could say. Sharing the bread.
It would seem we hear the author of the faith that works in us a little differently coming from walks of life. You seem to be blessed with a good education .. I hated my teachers. . that I do love today .thanks
Is it sound theology when someone makes the claim parables and tongues are not prophecy? How sound is that?
The death of the cross is a picture of bruising the heel used to represent the unseen government of God. It is hid in parables . The father and Son working as one to bring the peace of God that surpasses our understanding .
You could say revealed in parables which without he spoke not. . Again parables teach us how to walk by faith after the unseen eternal Spirit that we have in these bodies of death.(not of us)
Mark and Luke 9 give a great interpretation of that work of using parables to teach us how to hear God, the eternal And not man, the temporal.
Yes, it would seem that God was establishing that natural unconverted, faithless man like Cain as a beast of the field (formed from the clay) was using that occasion to mark his word as a God of it.
The life long punishment of suffering with no rest would not be cut off cut short . No immediate death sentence but one carried out a daily suffering. . . more that a person could bear. (no rest.)
Cain identified by the number of man 666 became a restless wanderer. Hiding form the presence of God. Unlike his brother Abel sealed in the forehead (believed God) who saw value in the things of God not seen. He bought the gospel truth and sold it not.
Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
Cain Like Esau who saw not value in the things (spiritual) not seen sold his birth rite for a cup of goat soup
Genesis it seems helps us understand the signified prophecy in Revelation.
Revelation 13:16-18 King James Version (KJV) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
That's true, but it doesn't mean that all things are all other things, which is the direction your position is taking.
Of what value is your private interpretation when it is not consistent with the truth of Scripture?
Off topic. If you want to address that, start a new thread.
You have that (bolded) backwards. The bruising of the heel is a picture of the death on the cross, not the other way around. Neither represents "the unseen government of God". Neither is a parable.
You would say that; I would not, because I don't have a self-invented definition of "parable".
Of what value is your private interpretation when it is not consistent with the truth of Scripture?
Off topic. If you want to address that, start a new thread.
You have that (bolded) backwards. The bruising of the heel is a picture of the death on the cross, not the other way around. Neither represents "the unseen government of God". Neither is a parable.
You would say that; I would not, because I don't have a self-invented definition of "parable".