Watching "Un-christian Porn" - protect your heart

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okie dokie..rebuke away then....give it to them all....and put them all in their place in what they should believe.....if God told you to do it...it must be true then.........:)
 
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okie dokie..rebuke away then....give it to them all....and put them all in their place in what they should believe.....if God told you to do it...it must be true then.........:)
As I will when I see false teaching that does not align with God's word and see a brother or sister acting in a improper way, because the Holy Spirit lead me to this .

Remember in 1 Corinthians 5 this was said to the whole congregation in Corinth, not to just the leader/s there !!!

We are not to judge those outside the Church (body of believers), but Paul shows here we can judge those inside the Church !!!

Also Jesus telling believers to first remove the plank out of our eye before we see clearly to remove the splinter from another was not said to just leaders either !!! This was to all believers to mature in the faith, and thus can then help others in their sinful ways.
 
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I agree. It would be helpful if you were more careful with your posts. Read that back and see if doesn't sound like an accusation.
I'm real big on using words that best convey the exact point one is trying to make. Apparently I'm about the only person here that sees any importance in that.
Which is the problem I have with this thread to start with. Porn conveys no kind of bible instruction, lesson, or passage to me, and I'm fairly familiar with the bible.
The op wanted to create the sense of talking about hyper-faith, or their teachers of this theology in the light of day is like watching porn.

I decided to look up testimonies from ex-charismatics. Very revealing. There is so much ignorance and blind faith, that when it fails is just ignored. In my church over the years we have had people dying of cancer year in year out, with calls for prayer etc with the expectation of healing but nothing. It is always the problem of no theology of suffering and drawing a line under a life. As we are born, so we die. It is not evil, it is our entry to be with the Lord.

But facts run lightly with these people. So to admit Joseph Prince is a WOF, prosperity and hyper-grace preacher is hard news. All the main contributors though told me there was no connection between the 3 positions. That is plain lying and stupid. Now once you have compromised integrity this much, understand who you are dealing with. Jesus is the truth, how can truth be in this group if the lie so easily and do not even attempt to correct this.

That is why my respect goes 100% from these people. There is no point lying about provable facts, it just makes you a liar, a liars never enter heaven. So understand who it is who calls themselves brothers and sisters.

Imagine if God dealt with His truth like these people, OSAS or any promise would be worth nothing. If the deciples equally had such a light view of truth, the bible would be meaningless. Truth and integrity are everything, literally.
 
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I know you mean well...God bless you...

As I will when I see false teaching that does not align with God's word and see a brother or sister acting in a improper way, because the Holy Spirit lead me to this .

Remember in 1 Corinthians 5 this was said to the whole congregation in Corinth, not to just the leader/s there !!!

We are not to judge those outside the Church (body of believers), but Paul shows here we can judge those inside the Church !!!

Also Jesus telling believers to first remove the plank out of our eye before we see clearly to remove the splinter from another was not said to just leaders either !!! This was to all believers to mature in the faith, and thus can then help others in their sinful ways.
 

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if you believe in this HYPER-GRACE doctrine cant you watch all the porn you want with no consequences?

after all they believe God forgives future sins before it even is committed. so really, if you believe that, then porn is ok for you to watch because you are being cleansed by the blood while your watching it, right?
 

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The scriptures have admonished in several places to watch what goes into our hearts. The gateways into our hearts are what we hear and what we see.

There have been many complaints of people being personally attacked because their beliefs were different then the attackers. This seems to be a common occurrence. Disagreements will always be with us here on this earth as we all see in part and know it part.

Slander, bitterness and malice are common place and to see believers doing this to other believers is just as deadly as watching porn. When I see the typing of such malicious words on here , it is defiling us to have to view this on our screens. This is why I call it watching "Un-christian Porn".

How do we protect our hearts from the garbage that is being sent to us through our eyes while on this site?

Matthew 18:15-17 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

If the person keeps on spewing garbage to you then ask them to stop and if they don't then just put them on the "ignore" status. This is what unfortunately I have had to do to a few that persisted in their malice. There is a way to disagree without attacking - personally the person, the name-calling, the bitterness being expressed and manifesting hate filled malice towards your brother or sister.

Ephesians 4:29-32 (NASB)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice
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[SUP]32 [/SUP] Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you.


I encourage you to protect your heart and stop watching this "Un-christian Porn " being brought in to you through your eyes.....just put the offending people on "ignore" if they continue with their malice towards you. Just "shake the dust off your feet" towards them.

Bless them and leave them in the loving hands of our Lord. He will love on them. He will be faithful to them.

Send them off with the words of Paul...

Acts 20:32 (NASB)
[SUP]32 [/SUP] "And now I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and to give you the inheritance among all those who are sanctified.


Proverbs 4:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.



Side note: If you are manifesting what has been addressed above and I don't respond to you it's probably because I have heeded my own counsel.
But then I'd have to put most everyone here on ignore... then I wouldn't have anyone left to banter with ;)
 

RickyZ

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But seriously; most people post their arguments under the 'correct your brother' clause... but most of these people are not open to correction themselves. It's a two-way street. If you're not willing to test your beliefs, then you have no place testing others.
 
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I am not justifying myself as the justification comes from the Lord !!!

I will however defend myself when others try to spread false accusations about me and thus try and slander me and my belief in the Lord Jesus Christ !!!

Instead of going after the one being slandered maybe you should spend your time addressing those doing the slandering, because the ones doing the slandering are the one's in the wrong !!!
Yes, because we all know the purpose of a forum supposedly about Christianity is to endless gab about each other.
 
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It's obvious you have no idea what is being said about the gospel of the grace of Christ.

if you believe in this HYPER-GRACE doctrine cant you watch all the porn you want with no consequences?

after all they believe God forgives future sins before it even is committed. so really, if you believe that, then porn is ok for you to watch because you are being cleansed by the blood while your watching it, right?
 
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I hear ya..lol

*...then we could eat whatever food we wanted to...*....


But then I'd have to put most everyone here on ignore... then I wouldn't have anyone left to banter with ;)
 
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I agree........it's the "way" it is done that is the issue at hand. None of us has all the knowledge of the Lord which is why we need for each other to operate in the gift the Lord has given them to be a blessing to us all. Now that would be a blessing and I believe that is the Lord's heart.

In the meantime I have no problem putting "spiritual dingbats and self-proclaimed heretic hunters" on ignore..it's a blessing from the Lord..:D.

We must be willing to look at the scriptures and sometimes people need to agree to disagree for various reasons. Surely all of us can still fellowship around the awesomeness of our Lord. His sacrifice for us and His complete work in our redemption.

* yes,..that means you can eat that meat that was sacrificed to idols.....it is a sign of the last days .LOL..*

I hope the water supply in So Cal is not affecting you. Bless you brother!

But seriously; most people post their arguments under the 'correct your brother' clause... but most of these people are not open to correction themselves. It's a two-way street. If you're not willing to test your beliefs, then you have no place testing others.
 
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It's obvious you have no idea what is being said about the gospel of the grace of Christ.
The proposal here is that the christian walk is as it is. The problem is the unresolved sinful heart, desperately wicked and the pure spirit that has to reside in this corrupted stinking soul, yuck.

Now the problem isn't we should beat ourselves up but we should silence that annoying conscience and conviction of sin, and just accept this compromised life as all there is.

We have no rules but our hearts really know what the right thing is to do. Opps. Our hearts are desperately wicked and cannot be relied upon. We have no guide anymore, so we must rely on the teachers and prophets, the emotional high.

So the real message is destroy any sense of righteousness and wallow in your sin. Now which demons did people listen to to get this compromise. Do you see holy, pure, washed, loving, resolved people walking out of this cess-pool, or just condemning fighting anti-legalists who claim everyone else is of the devil, and they have the true message.

By their fruit you shall know them. All they continually tell me to do is repent, call me a self righteous hypocrite and say I teach works salvation. Now all these things are slander, and not true. They do the same with any other person who does not agree, because in their world there are only two positions, the "religious" and them, the "hyper-gracers".

It is impossible to take them seriously. Any criticism of their spiritual heritage is blasphemy. Any questioning of the fruit of love as the eternal gift of Christ is religion, and evil.

Now a false prophet, if they got one word wrong should be stoned to death. How many wrong words are acceptable to this movement, 80%. Talk about doctrine of demons, it is probably 100%, it is all so wrong they do not know what is not invented. Going to the occult and saying what they do is ok if we do it for God is simply white magic. That is how depraved they have become. If you want to follow them to Hell, it is your choice.
 
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I don't see this as saying "you do it more then me."

I see this thread of one who is calling others out on what was done to them, but then denying or ignoring that they have done it to others.

It is more of "you have slandered and shown malice to me, but I am allowed to do it to you type attitude" !!!
Why not just forgive her then?
 
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If you would all be so kind as to allow me

to take a moment and add a word

to this most important discussion?



pants


Thanks, I really needed to
get that off my...head.
Carry On.:cool:
Ha-ha! You are a broken record! Ha-ha!
 
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This is definitely one of the most inappropriate posts I've seen here.

And that's saying something because I'm guilty of some inappropriate posts.
We are all pretty much in agreement that his words reveal the true state of his heart.
 
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That would be nice and great !!!

That is the main reason I joined this site to was to have friendly respectful talks on God's word, but it only took a few months to see that this site at the time was controlled by OSAS wolves.

Anybody that came here and spoke on things from the Word of God that disagree with their stance, then the same 3 to 6 people would show up and start attacking and belittling all who disagreed with them.

That finally got handled but then the next few months were pretty much nothing but debates about the LAW....

I left for a few weeks cause did not want to discuss that topic any longer because all it did was cause strife in the forums.

I came back and started posting a couple months ago to find out that now we have some from the hyper-grace crowd doing what those previously from the OSAS wolves were doing.

I have to admit this hyper-grace crowd is not as bad as they were, and a couple I can even have respectful debates with such as BenFTW.

Even though me and him don't agree with still stay respectful with one another !!!
Oh come on! Put on your big boy pants!
You just called a lot of people on here wolves, so look at what YOU yourself are doing. You have just slandered a lot in here in one fell swoop.
 
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I am not justifying myself as the justification comes from the Lord !!!

I will however defend myself when others try to spread false accusations about me and thus try and slander me and my belief in the Lord Jesus Christ !!!

Instead of going after the one being slandered maybe you should spend your time addressing those doing the slandering, because the ones doing the slandering are the one's in the wrong !!!
Your Lord didn't defend Himself even when they pounded nails into Him. When we did that to Him, we were definitely in the wrong. So how exactly are you living as He lived by being so concerned that men honor you and show you respect?
 

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8 pages and the battle still rages in here... unbelievable..
 
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The "ignore" button must not be working properly yet....we got to get that fixed.....:D
Can't every unfriendly word just be automatically changed in 'bless and do not curse'? Or 'wolve' to sweety? lol