Were Adam and Eve the first two people created in the beginning of time?

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Richie_2uk

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Oh Geez,here we go again, lol.
 
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doulos

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Don't need to I am well aware of his false teachings. Many of his supportrs have you tube videos promoting his garbage. We can't stop them from putting their videos on you tube but we can leave comments in the comment section refuting the heresy they promote. (provided they allow comments, some users don't).
 
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Anonimous

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Definitely something to consider...
 
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Anonimous

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"Uh, Sam? Another load like that we'll need bigger truck..."
 
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Anonimous

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yet another highly endorsed testimonial....
 
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GreenNnice

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What I'm wondering is how many people were populating more of 'them'selves into the world while God was resting a day later ?

And, HOW could there be people all populating the land when there was NO ONE to WORK THE GROUND, quote unquote

Gen. 2:5
Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[SUP]a[/SUP] and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground,

So, where's the beef, I mean, where the FLESH ?

Oh, that's right, TWO verses later, verse 7, to be exact, God CREATES THE FIRST MAN :)

Then the Lord God formed a man[SUP]c[/SUP] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
 
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According to the bible or story, the answer is no. We must first understand that the first bible was the Hebrew bible and all bibles are translation from this original text. Sometimes we need to go back to truly understand what the writers intended to say. In Hebrew there are three words that look very similar and therefore confused in their translations. ‘adaaam means mankind; more than one person. Haa-‘adaam (with article) means the man, and ‘eth haa-‘adaam (with article and particle) is a specific person named Adam.

Genesis 1

[SUP]26[/SUP] And God said, Let us make man (‘adaam) in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Here it’s talking about the creation of mankind. Note the underline word! It indicates more than one!


What Hebrew word are you saying represents the plural 'them'...?




[SUP]27[/SUP] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Here is indicated that males and females were created at the same time. So in the beginning of time God created a population of man and women.

Male & female are singular in this verse...and represent Adam & Eve...not a population of people...
 
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weakness

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This stinks of Arnold Murray !!![/QUOTEI could not find doctrine of andrew m. except maybe all would be saved. Could you share oter doctrine of question and if the creation interp above has similarities?
 
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weakness

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Oh Geez,here we go again, lol.[/QUOT Not sure what you mean ,but if I am right, that we are about to be bombarded with every contentious, vulgar ,unloving ,self serving,foolish jesting, and every other thing pertaining to ungodliness I agree!!!! It is so disheartening to see almost every thread turn by the carnal minded participants to such unedifying conversation. And why not just state your point and if needed argue it. But to turn this site into a circus of three stooges ect that any discerning believing or unbelieving person finds just another excuse to think Christianity abhorrent and senseless. Please consider yourselves and the beam in your own eye so you can see clearly to help others. It is called by Jesus being a hypocrite.
 
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GreenNnice

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Oh Geez,here we go again, lol.[/QUOT Not sure what you mean ,but if I am right, that we are about to be bombarded with every contentious, vulgar ,unloving ,self serving,foolish jesting, and every other thing pertaining to ungodliness I agree!!!! It is so disheartening to see almost every thread turn by the carnal minded participants to such unedifying conversation. And why not just state your point and if needed argue it. But to turn this site into a circus of three stooges ect that any discerning believing or unbelieving person finds just another excuse to think Christianity abhorrent and senseless. Please consider yourselves and the beam in your own eye so you can see clearly to help others. It is called by Jesus being a hypocrite.
I agree, we should show Love to those whose spirit is in need of His showing them revelation of things of His Word that are not yet 'spoken' to them :)

We are ALL weak, at times, lest we never forget, we were ALL sinners when Christ died for us. ALL of us ! NOT one of you perfectionists is off the hook even , YOU sinned too :(
 
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CoooCaw

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According to the bible or story, the answer is no. We must first understand that the first bible was the Hebrew bible and all bibles are translation from this original text. Sometimes we need to go back to truly understand what the writers intended to say. In Hebrew there are three words that look very similar and therefore confused in their translations. ‘adaaam means mankind; more than one person. Haa-‘adaam (with article) means the man, and ‘eth haa-‘adaam (with article and particle) is a specific person named Adam.

Genesis 1

[SUP]26[/SUP] And God said, Let us make man (‘adaam) in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Here it’s talking about the creation of mankind. Note the underline word! It indicates more than one!
[SUP]27[/SUP] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Here is indicated that males and females were created at the same time. So in the beginning of time God created a population of man and women.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

-Notice in this verse, God says to be fruitful and multiply. If he hadn’t created Eve yet, how can any man multiply? As we now know, there was a population of women now in existence. We can also understand from this passage that the men God created where to have domain over the fish of the sea (fishermen) and over the fowl of the air, and every living thing… (hunters)

Genesis 2

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the Lord God formed man (‘eth haa-‘adaam) of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

-With only fisherman and hunters, there was no one to till the ground (farmers) so God formed Adam. Notice that he wasn’t created! but rather formed. As stated again in verse 8.
This was the purpose of the creation of Adam. Then God gives him a wife that would suit him and Eve came into existence. They first had Cain and Abel [later Seth (Gen 4:25) and many more (Gen 5:4)]. And as we all know the story, Cain murders Abel and God punishes him.

Genesis 4

[SUP]12 [/SUP]When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
A fugitive and a vagabond shalt though be is God kicking him out from Eden.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

-In verse 14, Cain is afraid to be killed if someone finds him. Notice again the underline words! In verse 15 the lord refers to people with whosoever, again supporting the existence of other people!
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And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

-Cain went to Nod and got married with a woman from there. Again supporting the existence of other people and even women!! Throughout the rest of the chapter, it lists generations. Again if people look past Cain’s wife as simply something you can’t question and the bible doesn’t give answers to everything, then where did Enoch find his wife? And the following people. Again, it’s because there were many men and women on earth!
petula, you are wrong, you do not understand Hebrew, you are courting heresy
 
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Huckleberry

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According to the bible or story, the answer is no. We must first understand...
If anybody has an understanding problem here, it's you.

-Notice in this verse, God says to be fruitful and multiply. If he hadn’t created Eve yet, how can any man multiply?
Case in point of your understanding problem.
Genesis chapter one verses 24-31 are a summarized telling of Day 6 given by God Himself.

Genesis chapter two, starting in verse 4, is a new narrative
wherein God is thereafter referred to as "the LORD God".
It is Adam's account of Day 6.

-Cain went to Nod and got married with a woman from there. Again supporting the existence of other people and even women!!
Here's another thing you don't understand:
Cain dwelt in the land of Nod. It is not described as a city,
and it's neither said nor implied that he found his wife there.
His wife was one of his sisters that he took there with him.
 
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It does not say that Cain got his wife in Nod. It only says the he went to Nod and his wife conceived. The natural implication of the language was that he was already married when went to Nod.
Genesis 19:36So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father.

Genesis 19:37
The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today.

Ruth 1:22
So Naomi returned from Moab accompanied by Ruth the Moabite, her daughter-in-law, arriving in Bethlehem as the barley harvest was beginning.
 
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doulos

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I could not find doctrine of andrew m. except maybe all would be saved. Could you share oter doctrine of question and if the creation interp above has similarities?
Arnold Murray promotes the false serpent seed doctrine. Don't bother checking it out unless you are interested in learning it so you can refute the lies Arnold Murray promotes. To learn more about the Scripturally bankrupt doctrines of Arnold Murray and his Scripturally bankrupt serpent seed doctrine just do a search for his name or shepherds chapel. He isn't the first to promote that garbage but he is playing a huge role helping it grow here in the U.S.
 
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Adam lived to be like 900 years old. Who would believe they only had 2 children in all that time? Really? 900 years old and only two kids?
Who said they had only two kids? There was at least one more (Seth) as well as daughters (because even if the story is mythical, the writer understood that Cain and Abel needed sisters in order to continue the human population).
 
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JHM

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While researching the Bible, I found the "Lilith Code". "Lilith" appears twice in the Jerusalem Bible, once in the New Revised Standard Version, once in the Darby Translation, five times in the Talmud, once in the Gilgamesh epic, and once in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
 
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cfultz3

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While researching the Bible, I found the "Lilith Code". "Lilith" appears twice in the Jerusalem Bible, once in the New Revised Standard Version, once in the Darby Translation, five times in the Talmud, once in the Gilgamesh epic, and once in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
What does this have to do with the subject?
 
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JHM

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Didn't you know that according to Hebrew legend, "Lilith" was Adam's first wife before Eve ?