Were ALL living creatures killed in the flood?

[swat4christ]

I never said the Bible was WRONG.I said I was interested in why atheists do not believe.How can you tell an atheist why he/she should believe if you don't have an answer to his questions?It sounds to me like you are a little closed-minded when it comes to people who don't believe.I'm glad I didn't visit this site while I was an atheist.

The challenge is this: It is indeed frustrating when you find professing believers who know more about their favorite hobby, career, sports team, politics, modern technology, television programming, etc., than they do about the Word of God. Now, I am not directing this statement at you, nor am I defending anyone here. I don't know how long you have been saved or if you have even been discipled by a mature Christian. But the Word of God answers every question anyone could ever have - Atheist, Muslim, Mormon, Catholic, Agnostic, Baptist, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Protestant, ANYONE. If you wish to dialogue with the Atheist community because you were once one of them, and you are not yet yourself grounded in the Scriptures, I will be more than happy to help you answer their questions any way I can. You can either ask me the questions in this thread or you can Private Message me. God Bless.

 

[pogrud]

Mcap, I think it's good to hear you trying to understand things from different perspectives. This is a question I had too as I was growing up a Christian. You've come on here trying to find out the answer from the Christian community, so far you've just been attacked for asking an obvious question. I'd like to hear some explaination too.

Where is the harm in trying to further your understanding of God by searching for the answers to your questions? Is that not what theology is partly about? I'm sure many people have lost their faith because they've just been told 'don't think, only follow the bible' without any explanation. Would it have been better to sweep in under the carpet? If you stand by the view of just believing the bible because it's the holy book, you're no different to any Muslim, Jew or any other religion that stands by their beliefs because they have a holy book.

 

[Grimaldus]

Gah, sorry, a bit behind on the son of who sections.
Even so, it's not human laws, it's natural laws. If a brother and sister have a child it's going to mutate the child, that's WHY humans made incest laws. Also, if I where arguing my point against that I would try to get across that message w/o mentioning adam living for 930 years.

 

[eric51]

I have been visiting some Atheist sites trying to find out why they do not believe in God.Most of them say that the Bible contradicts itself,an example being that the Bible states when the flood came all living creatures were killed,but how could the sea-living creatures drown when they lived in water.Is there anything in the Bible about this?

The flood mentioned in the bible is an allegory on the regenerating and saving power of baptism. I realize this makes many who insist on interpreting the bible literally, angry. But this is the case. Furthermore, not to recognize it is an allegory means you fail to come away with the main message of the story. That is to the reader's detriment.

In Christ

 

[Slepsog4]

Eric,

WRONG. The flood was a true historical event. It is a type or shadow to which baptism is the anti-type or substance. But your way of thinking would make all of the types in the OT only allegorical. This would deny the existence of a real temple, priesthood, and sacrificial system.

The only things that died in the flood were those that had nostrils (Gen. 7:22) with the exception of those on the Ark.

 

[awings7]

Well, I don't mean to be rude, but it did kinda pop into my head while I read this that the main argument for the bible contradicting itself would be "how did cain have children?" (that would be my choice) as Adam and Eve only had male children as I recal (cain & abel, and we all know what happened to abel) all this inspite of the fact that even if they did have a sister, having children w/ her would be entirely impossible b/c the human reproduction functions don't allow incest to go without reprecussion.

The gene pool remianed pure to allow for intermarriage of sibblings, that did change as there were more people born to marry away form ones family.

After the Flood in the Torah, YH forbid close family from marriage.

For the record, Abraham married his step sister not half sister.

 

[Slepsog4]

The laws concerning incest did not go into affect for many centuries. The first we read of it is the giving of the Law of Moses. The pollution of the human gene pool was not a problem yet. The absence of evidence for sisters is not evidence for absence. The Bible often only records those people and/or events pertinent to its story line of sin and redemption.

Since Eve is the mother of all living (humans), Cain must have married a near relative.

 

[Baruch]

The Deluge was localized, it was not universal. If you look at the KJV Genesis 7:4; the word "earth" is translated from the Hebrew word adamah. You can find this in 'Strong's Concordance' #127, the hebrew word most used for the earth is erets and there is a different meaning here and erets has a number of meanings that always must be considered in context, but the Scripture from which the KJV is translated uses the Hebrew word adamah:- soil (from its gen. redness):-country, earth, ground, husband {man} (-ry), land. The root word is actually "Adam".

Kind of pointless for Noah and his family to put animals on the ark when all he had to do was move. If Jesus refers to the scriptures and declares them as that which cannot be broken, then you are reading the Word of God for what He wanted the scriptures to say. It is not only illogical to have Noah build the ark, but also to put animals on it if the flood was not wordwide, and God was not intending to destroy all life that breathe on the earth. The reference to the rainbow as a covenant that God would not flood the earth again to destroy all life is a defining point that it was indeed worldwide.

We know from not only Bible chronology but geological surveys and ancient myth that the Deluge or the Flood all though very vast did not cover the entire world nor did it kill all lving beings on the Earth itself. And if we study what Genesis says the Bible confirms this by using a word that is taken to mean 'a land of red soil, country faming land, dry ground. the word adamah does not mean the entire formations of all the Earth itself, does not mean, seas, or mountains, or lakes, or swamplands or even forests or deserts! the word and considering the contexts means dry farming land, and even more specifically red soil! So the Word is very specific that it is defining a certain area of earth.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/12/u...n-andes-show-how-mountains-rose-from-sea.html

Try reading the article without wearing the evolutionary reading glasses. It is because of whale bones found in the Andes Mountains that they believed the mountains rose suddenly from the sea while conveniently overlooking the fact that fossilized animal bones were also found in the same layer of sentiment.

If you really are being objective, then read this next site as they give further clues as to what happened to cause the Flood to be worldwide.

http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfo07c.htm

The Atlantic Ocean is well known for being green while the Pacific is blue. What if there was no Atlantic Ocean before the Flood? Looking at the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, one can see the water erosion in its formation. Is this where the fountains of the deep came from? Impact crater off of the coast of Nova Scotia hints at the probable cause of the waters from the deep bursting forth? The impact craters of the moon gives telltale signs of it used to being closer to the earth as it is still moving away from the earth due to the impacts? Since the moon is governing the tide, would the initial impacts on the moon, causing it to move further away from the earth and thus drawing the accumulation of the mist of the earth to rise to form clouds and thus rain for the first time? and yet while combined with the impact on the earth, the fountains of the deep burst forth from the Mid-Atlantic Ridge as the gravitational pull cause the flood waters to rise to cover the earth? And as the waters receded, we would have those collection of boneyards and odd caches as stated at the link above where the waters moved them into? Was there not a road seemingly going off into the ocean towards Mediterranean? Could the forcing of the waters from the deep cause some of the land to collapsed, thus explaining why the Atlantic is green?

There are more mountains with fossilized marine life on them.. in Turkey and in China. Sounds to me like the world is trying awfully hard not to piece all the clues together.

An ancienct Chinese pictograph for boat is made up of three symbols, meaning eight, mouths, & vessel. That is how many souls that were saved by the ark.

There are over 200 flood stories and myths in different cultures.

Tracing the origin of languages has it all going back to the area noted as Babylon.

The "mitochondria eve" hints at all of us sharing the same ancestry.

While mankind fumble around in the dark and being hindered by the evolution theory in seeing the evidence in nature for what it is, trust God in the keeping of His words for those that seek Him.

2 Timothy 3: 15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Peter 1:19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Again it is a deliberate mistranslation on the behalf of the KJV writers and that is why a student of the Bible needs to read several translations and be able to understand both Hebrew and Greek definitions, in this case the Greek is the same as the Hebrew, many English versions however for various reasons have mistranslated this word which has sown confusion.

It is only a deliberate misviewing on your part only because you believe the evolution theory is true.

KJV writers had the Received Text, documents from Antioch where believers were first called christians and met there regularly to tend to the disciples. They had books and travelled with parchments for copying and delivering the scriptures for other assemblies to have. These documents kept by those who loved God's words would not be on a shelf collecting dusts and forgotten, but kept up for use in a continuing church communities. The documents at Alexandria are circumspect as poetic licensing has been known to have taken place there.

John 14:23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

Acts 11:26And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

2 Timothy 4:13The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments.

Acts 15: 22Then pleased it the apostles and elders with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas and Silas, chief men among the brethren: 23And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.

2 Corinthians 10: 9That I may not seem as if I would terrify you by letters. 10For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible. 11Let such an one think this, that, such as we are in word by letters when we are absent, such will we be also in deed when we are present.

Acts 14:21And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch, 22Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. 23And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed. 24And after they had passed throughout Pisidia, they came to Pamphylia. 25And when they had preached the word in Perga, they went down into Attalia: 26And thence sailed to Antioch, from whence they had been recommended to the grace of God for the work which they fulfilled. 27And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith unto the Gentiles. 28And there they abode long time with the disciples.

May God cause the increase to show you how tainted views of the world keeps one from finding the truth in God's words kept in the King James Bible. Some of the texts may have changed, but the meaning has not.

That cannot be said the same of the other translations. Indeed, to keep the faith and reprove the works of darkness, one should resort to the King James Bible for the other versions contain enough changed meanings to support apostasy... whereas the scriptures that has the emphasis on Jesus and not changed to put the emphasis on the believer or on the Spirit is found in the King James Bible as even the scriptures says it is to testify of Jesus.

John 5:39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Other versions points away from Him at certain points to broaden the way so that the hope is divided between being on the believer as well as being on Jesus and the mediatorship is divided between Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

You will not find that in the King James Bible, thus being true to the word.

 

[Slepsog4]

UNIVERSAL FLOOD: 7 Biblical Reasons

1. The text of scripture plainly states ALL flesh (Gen. 6:13)
2. The size of the ark (Gen. 6:15)
3. The height of the waters over all the hills and mountains under the WHOLE heaven (Gen. 7:19-20)
4. The text of Genesis uses plain straightforward language.
5. The rainbow is universal (Gen. 9:12ff)
6. There have been other floods, but not like that one (Gen. 9:15)
7. The human race restarted by the sons of Noah (Gen. 9:19)

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

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Kind of pointless for Noah and his family to put animals on the ark when all he had to do was move.

The Deluge was on a vast scale, but it did not cover the whole world and Noah and his house were not the only survivors.

If Jesus refers to the scriptures and declares them as that which cannot be broken, then you are reading the Word of God for what He wanted the scriptures to say. It is not only illogical to have Noah build the ark, but also to put animals on it if the flood was not wordwide,

I just explained to you the meaning of God's Word, it is undeed unbroken, when He said 'earth' the word means in Greek and Hebrew in scripture- means farming, dry red soilded lowland of Adam, it's very specific, if you can only understand modern english versions with poor translations, I cannot help upou any further, if you are notr prepared to listen to what I am saying, I am clearing presenting the actual meanings of the words, there is no debate to it, the Bible says the Deluge took place in an area, a specific and localized area, any debate to the contrary conflicts with the Scripture.

and God was not intending to destroy all life that breathe on the earth. The reference to the rainbow as a covenant that God would not flood the earth again to destroy all life is a defining point that it was indeed worldwide.

All life was not destroyed on the entire surface of the earth, the word is 'Adamah', it's localized.

While mankind fumble around in the dark and being hindered by the evolution theory in seeing the evidence in nature for what it is, trust God in the keeping of His words for those that seek Him.

I am one of the most vocal opponents of the lies of 'evolution theory' so please refrain from your false accusations, my standpoint of evolution is very clear.

It is only a deliberate misviewing on your part only because you believe the evolution theory is true.

Well again I don't understand why you would persist in making false accussations against me, I have clearly stated in several threads and my position is absolutely clear that I have no faith in evolutionary doctrine whatsoever!

KJV writers had the Received Text, documents from Antioch where believers were first called christians and met there regularly to tend to the disciples. They had books and travelled with parchments for copying and delivering the scriptures for other assemblies to have. These documents kept by those who loved God's words would not be on a shelf collecting dusts and forgotten, but kept up for use in a continuing church communities. The documents at Alexandria are circumspect as poetic licensing has been known to have taken place there.

This is just plain wrong, KJV writers worked from Leningrad Codex and various other Masoretic Talmudic Manuscripts that are written in Hebrew, the Antioch scripts are all in Greek, so you are and any of your spurious sources are absolutely wrong, This is not the thread to discuss the shortcomings of the KJV and the many lies surrounding it, I just don't won't to go any further on this point.

 

[Baruch]

The Deluge was on a vast scale, but it did not cover the whole world and Noah and his house were not the only survivors.

Says who? The Bible clearly states only eight even in the NT.

1 Peter 3:20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

I just explained to you the meaning of God's Word, it is undeed unbroken, when He said 'earth' the word means in Greek and Hebrew in scripture- means farming, dry red soilded lowland of Adam, it's very specific, if you can only understand modern english versions with poor translations, I cannot help upou any further, if you are notr prepared to listen to what I am saying, I am clearing presenting the actual meanings of the words, there is no debate to it, the Bible says the Deluge took place in an area, a specific and localized area, any debate to the contrary conflicts with the Scripture.

'adamah pronounced ad-aw-maw' from ''adam' (119); soil (from its general redness):--country, earth, ground, husband(-man) (-ry), land.

Yeah, I know you did. I just disagreed wiith your viewing the word as applied.

All life was not destroyed on the entire surface of the earth, the word is 'Adamah', it's localized.

That is you wanting to believe that. How long do you think it would take Noah to build the ark that size? Is it really sensible that they couldn't just up and leave? What of the birds? Surely they can avoid the effects of a localized flood, and yet they were to perish as well. Why didn't you comprehend the sending out of the birds by Noah? Plus you are ignoring the rainbow covenant made by God. You can't pick and choose what you want to believe and say error in translations, because your take doesn't wash. Your view is more of man than anything you falsely accuse of in the Bible.

I am one of the most vocal opponents of the lies of 'evolution theory' so please refrain from your false accusations, my standpoint of evolution is very clear.

Well again I don't understand why you would persist in making false accussations against me, I have clearly stated in several threads and my position is absolutely clear that I have no faith in evolutionary doctrine whatsoever!

Good. I apologize for stating that you were, however, if I find any previous post where it has led me to believe that in error, I will point it out, God be willing. Not really sure where it was that has erroneously made me believe that your thinking was along the lines of the evolutionary timetable, but something made me think that.

This is just plain wrong, KJV writers worked from Leningrad Codex and various other Masoretic Talmudic Manuscripts that are written in Hebrew, the Antioch scripts are all in Greek, so you are and any of your spurious sources are absolutely wrong, This is not the thread to discuss the shortcomings of the KJV and the many lies surrounding it, I just don't won't to go any further on this point.

You started it, bro. Remember this quote?

Again it is a deliberate mistranslation on the behalf of the KJV writers and that is why a student of the Bible needs to read several translations and be able to understand both Hebrew and Greek definitions, in this case the Greek is the same as the Hebrew, many English versions however for various reasons have mistranslated this word which has sown confusion.

Funny how you excluded spurious sources and yet provided not one link to back up your claim, but I am willing to let go of it for the sake of the thread if you are.

 

[eric51]

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Mid-Atlantic ridge first appeared more than 100million years ago. It is responsible for the North American and the European tectonic plates separating. Fossil remains in Turkey and the Middle East are due to land uprising beneath what was once the Tethys Sea. Similar phenomena can be found in the Alps. Matterhorn is a piece of oceanic crust uplifted when Africa crashed into Europe. You find fish fossils on the Matterhorn. Nearer to home, one finds fish fossils in the Rocky Mountains. During the Cretaceous period, more than 65 million years ago, there was a shallow sea running thru north America. The sea bottom gradually rose.

Peace

 

[Baruch]

Mid-Atlantic ridge first appeared more than 100million years ago. It is responsible for the North American and the European tectonic plates separating. Fossil remains in Turkey and the Middle East are due to land uprising beneath what was once the Tethys Sea. Similar phenomena can be found in the Alps. Matterhorn is a piece of oceanic crust uplifted when Africa crashed into Europe. You find fish fossils on the Matterhorn. Nearer to home, one finds fish fossils in the Rocky Mountains. During the Cretaceous period, more than 65 million years ago, there was a shallow sea running thru north America. The sea bottom gradually rose.

Peace

I was beginning to woinder if you were reading anything I had posted to you as if maybe I was on ignore, but here you are responding from a post not addressed to you. Guess I was wrong.

Do you have a witness to the appearing of the Mid-Atlantric Ridge from over a 100 million years ago?

How about the others? No?

God spoke through men inspired through the Holy Spirit to provide the holy scriptures and so... that witness is assured since He was there as testified by the Holy Spirit.

2 Peter 1:19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

If the earth was without form and empty, then the Mid-Atlantic Ridge wasn't there before Adam.

 

[eric51]

I was beginning to woinder if you were reading anything I had posted to you as if maybe I was on ignore, but here you are responding from a post not addressed to you. Guess I was wrong.

Do you have a witness to the appearing of the Mid-Atlantric Ridge from over a 100 million years ago?

How about the others? No?

God spoke through men inspired through the Holy Spirit to provide the holy scriptures and so... that witness is assured since He was there as testified by the Holy Spirit.

2 Peter 1:19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

If the earth was without form and empty, then the Mid-Atlantic Ridge wasn't there before Adam.

I thought I would try.

In Christ

 

[Slepsog4]

The creation and the flood and the earth's present conditions are not 100 million years in the making.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Says who? The Bible clearly states only eight even in the NT.

1 Peter 3:20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Baruch, I am sure I have already explained 1Peter 3:20 in this thread; we read on-
21. "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us."

Here Peter is clearly comparing likeness of the Baptism he now preaches to that of the Baptism by water in the days of Noah, where eight souls were saved by water. Just because it was only eight that were saved that has nothing to do with how many survived or how many perished, it's just that it was only the House of Noah that went through baptism and was saved, now we know that it is not just water, because Peter goes on- "not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God."

Do you see what Peter is saying, I know it's hard to understand because when an Apostle talks, we are trying to understand with our puny minds the words of intellectual giants like Peter who was trained by God in person, so what Peter writes is really deep and full of meaning. See how he says that the water is not the putting away of filthy flesh but to produce a good concience towards God, now this is not symbolic, No, it happened, God did destroy with water, but more importantly it was the salvation of the royal house of Noah, just because eight souls were saved does not mean that all other souls perished, it just means that only eight souls with a good concience towards God were saved by the baptism of the Deluge!

'adamah pronounced ad-aw-maw' from ''adam' (119); soil (from its general redness):--country, earth, ground, husband(-man) (-ry), land.

Yeah, I know you did. I just disagreed wiith your viewing the word as applied.

erets is used for earth as well in Hebrew, I checked the Septuagint in Koine Greek gh, which has the same meaning as our english, meaning anything from an element, a lump of dirt, a paddock or the entire earth.

That is you wanting to believe that. How long do you think it would take Noah to build the ark that size?

Was it 40 years? I think it was 40 years, a long time anyhow.

Is it really sensible that they couldn't just up and leave?

I don't think so, it was evil going on everywhere, it may not have been safe or logistically possible to move his cattle and stock and belongings, Noah was on his own land, and God knew what he was doing and planned the flood.

What of the birds? Surely they can avoid the effects of a localized flood, and yet they were to perish as well.

Well no, it is listed what Noah took on board, he certainly didn't take Emu's and Cockatoos, the idea that Noah took two of every living species on the planet is unreasonable, Scripture does not say he did that and God certainly does not expect us to believe such non-sense. Noah took what was his farm animals and fowels, doves, etc, the animals that he needed to start again and of course for the sacrifices and the essentials that he and his family would need to get them started again. How can anybody believe otherwise, you don't seriouslt imagine that Noah marched Walruses and Giraffes, it's OK for Sunday School, but lets be serious about this.





The the Deluge was localized, the House of Noah maily took on board their livestock, and farm animals that they needed for to 'replenish' the 'earth', it means like to feed them and get Noah and his family started again after their own lands had been destroyed. The immature idea that all the planet was underwater and every creature and species on the entire planet died except for eight humans and million of different species that they had collected all aboard a wooden boat, that's absurd, Bible doesn't say that and does not mean that! If you are teaching children then you know, you gave give that very simplistic niave interpretation, but no one can expect that a mature and deep theological investigation in scripture is going to come up with the same.

 

[eric51]

The creation and the flood and the earth's present conditions are not 100 million years in the making.

Noah's flood is allegorical: refers to regenerative powers of baptism.

Many ancient cultures have their flood stories. To point, the Sumerians, which Abraham left on God's command and whom heavily influenced the earliest Hebrews, have a flood narrative. Even more to the point, geologists know that around 5400BC, the straits of Hormuz which previously were an Isthmus connecting Arabian peninsula to what is now Iran, were suddenly submerged by waters from the Indian ocean. What is now the Persian Gulf was permanently submerged; what used to be a fertile valley became sea bottom. It is hypothesized that this event may be an ambiguous backdrop to the flood narratives.

Another possible influence on the flood narrative is the Mediterranean breaking through the Dardanelles and expanding the Black Sea. This also occurred also around the same time as the flood mentioned above.

However,whether either event gave rise to the flood narratives is conjecture. What is not conjecture is that Noah's flood is not meant to be interpreted literally.

In Christ

 

[Slepsog4]

Eric,

There is no INTERPRETATION unless you take it as anything but historical narrative. The rest of the Bible writers under the guidance of the Holy Spirit unanimously speak of it in literal terms.

The flood was real and universal.

 

[awings7]

well, you spend reading what the atheist says why don't you spend time reading what God says, stay away from evil

Jas 4:7Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Ge 6:7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Ge 7:21And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

are the sea-living creatures on the face of the earth, are they creeping things, do they fly in the air.

you want to know what God says then read the Word of God , don't seek after what the atheist says. I don't mean to sound so sharp here, But i can have no compassion on people who come in here or state that cause something a non-believer says that the Bible must be wrong.


2ti 2:15Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

The Bible states, all living creatures outside of the Ark died.

 

[MahogonySnail]

What about fish, i'm sure the fish could swim and didnt die.