What about Adam ?

[PS]

How Adam was made in God's Image


In Adam being constituted as the figure there must have been a body, as to say Type then Anti Type, the Image, then the Original, Christ as the Head of the Church is the Original that Adam was made After. Co1 1:17-18


17And he [As the Head of the Church] is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Now how was Adam a Type of the original upon his creation ? First, in his formation he stands as a unit, embodying a multitude which no man can number, thus serving as an emblem of the Mediator Man which is One, in whom God has secured a Chosen People, a seed, a chosen generation, a number that no man can number before the foundation of the world.

Adam is a type of us (mankind).

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is what we partake of.

Eve is a type of the Church, the Bride of Christ, she was not formed of dust, but came from an opened side. The Church is a heavenly Body, born from the opened side of the Second Adam, God’s Son.

The Tree of Life is Jesus Christ.

 

[enoch1nine]

Have you ever wondered that if Adam would not have sinned, and lived a perfect sin free life, if He would have inherited eternal life ?

He wouldn't have needed to inherit it, because he would not have died, or aged physically beyond his teens for that matter, I imagine. He already had eternal life before he sinned. God knew he would fall, but took the step of doing what is right and giving him fair warning. Then took the righteous act of letting him see for himself for educational purposes, and the righteous act of promising him He'd save him from his mistake, which God allowed, on the last day.

 

[svedbygrace]

enoc

He wouldn't have needed to inherit it

Why not ? The Life he had before the sin was not The Eternal Life God Promised before the World Began. Titus 1:2

2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

God's Promise of Eternal Life was before adam began.

He already had eternal life before he sinned

Impossible, or he could not have sinned and died.

 

[TigerScent777]

...I would like to think that Adam and Eve were saved an in the kingdom of heaven...Gods Grace is Gods Grace...I cannot conceive of it being otherwise with regards to them...I think they learnt a very hard lesson...that was inherited by the human race. A really really tough thing to consider, so many lost - so much pain and suffering..., but keep in mind that Eve was still 'beguiled' by the deceiver..., it is 'he' that will pay the ultimate price in the end...by the Wrath of the Most High God, and I still believe that Adam and Eve would be saved regardless....such is the Grace and Love of God...and His Rightousness...

 

[PS]

...I would like to think that Adam and Eve were saved an in the kingdom of heaven...Gods Grace is Gods Grace...I cannot conceive of it being otherwise with regards to them...I think they learnt a very hard lesson...that was inherited by the human race. A really really tough thing to consider, so many lost - so much pain and suffering..., but keep in mind that Eve was still 'beguiled' by the deceiver..., it is 'he' that will pay the ultimate price in the end...by the Wrath of the Most High God, and I still believe that Adam and Eve would be saved regardless....such is the Grace and Love of God...and His Rightousness...

In the Genesis context adam ( 'âdâm aw-dawm' H121) means mankind or the human race, so the choice they had of rejecting or accepting the word of God was the same for them as it is for us.

 

[enoch1nine]

In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

Doesn't this say God promised that life would be eternal, before he created life?
I don't think returning to dust technically interrupts eternal life, because the Spirit returns to God.

Was Adam destined, had he not sinned, to eat from the tree of life and still die of old age?
And if that can't happen, then did he not already have eternal life?

 

[homwardbound]

Doesn't this say God promised that life would be eternal, before he created life?
I don't think returning to dust technically interrupts eternal life, because the Spirit returns to God.

Was Adam destined, had he not sinned, to eat from the tree of life and still die of old age?
And if that can't happen, then did he not already have eternal life?

I see it this way, from eating of that tree of evil, they died that day Spiritually, and became aware of the flesh and knew they were naked. Man since then born after the similitude of Adam and Eve were all born physically alive yet Spiritually dead.
Now as from Scripture fast paced forward to Christ. Christ was born Spiritually alive and dead to flesh, being born a life-giving Spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:45And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Now today this life-giving Spirit of Christ is given to us through the resurrection of christ by God the Father of Christ.
Born again back to being whole alive in the Spirit of God a free gift to those that believe see as God sees fit for them to. For God will not reveal this to those that have wrong motives in mind for God seeks

"Comfort God by letting God know that you would see God just to dwell in God's Presence. Not for teaching, not for material gain, not even for a message, but for God. The longing of the human heart to be loved for itself is something caught from the Great Divine Heart."

Nothing else on or in this earth can fill the human heart as God truly can and does for those without any malice in the way, then is the truth revealed, and one recieves, God's rightepousness, peace and understanding that passes all human wisdom, and thus we are righteous by him and God only through the finished work of Christ

 

[svedbygrace]

eic

Doesn't this say God promised that life would be eternal, before he created life?

Titus 1:2

2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

This Eternal Life is in Christ, not Adam. 1 Jn 5:11

11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

 

[svedbygrace]

Eph 1:4

4According as he hath chosen us in him [ Christ] before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Now in light of this scripture, it is so plain that God's Purpose for His People to be Holy and without blame before Him was anchored in the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ, before the foundation of the world. That is before Adam was ever formed from the dust of the ground, God had determined how His people would be made Holy and without blame. However, many in organized religion today believe that God's design for Adam and man in him, was that he should live a perfect sinless life and never should have sinned to bring in sin and death into the world. To them, the Lord Jesus Christ and His work of redemption was a back up plan to Adam's failure. They fail to see and understand that it was God's intended purpose that Adam plunge his people into sin and death that it would be made fit for the realized Eternal Redemptive Purpose centered in the Lord Jesus Christ. Eph 3:8-11

8Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

10To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

To deny that it was God's purpose and will that Adam sin and bring the necessity of redemptive blessing into the world, is a flat out denial that this world, to include Adam and everything created was for the specific purpose of Christ. Col 1:16

16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

It is also an elevation of the creature [Adam] over the Creator which was Christ ! Its a subtle way of worshiping the creature over the Creator who is God Blessed forever. Rom 1:25

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

The Truth of God is that the Lord Jesus Christ is main goal of History and His what He accomplished on the cross to Bring the People of God Holy and without blame before Him. However, those who have changed the Truth, insist that Adam, the creature was the main goal of God accomplishing His purpose of bringing men into Eternal Bliss and Happiness, but Adam just failed and Christ was a backup plan to Adam. Thats changing the Truth of God into a lie ! Adam along with all creation was brought into existence for the Redemptive Purpose of Christ, the Lamb slain from the foundation, in the Eternal Purpose of God.

 

[svedbygrace]

That He might be the Firstborn among many brethren !


Rom 8:28-29

28And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

It really astonishes me on how so many professing Christians do not realize that God's creation of Adam was in route to a far greater purpose that had to do with Christ and His redeeming Death. This Eternal Purpose necessitated by God's Eternal Purpose that Adam would be responsible for bringing into this world both sin and death Rom 5:12.

We know this because it was always of God's Eternal Purpose in Christ see Eph 3:11, that Christ would be the Firstborn of Many Brethren. When I say Firstborn, I mean His resurrection from the dead. Rom 8:28-29 Tells us whom it is that all things work together for the good unto, those who are called according to God's Purpose. What Purpose ? That purpose which is Eternal, to conform many brethren into the Image of Christ. Not Adam. God determined this image of Christ would be in the likeness of Christ after His Resurrection, so, it was always determined that Christ must rise from the dead Jn 20:6-9

6Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,

7And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.

8Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.

9For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.

Acts 17:3

Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

This is because God had determined before all worlds that He would be the Firstborn from the Dead.

Col 1:15-18


15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

He must in that Have the Preeminence !

Rev 1:5

5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

This Eternal Purpose Eph 3:11 could only be accomplished by Christ resurrection from the dead, which of course means He had to be put to death in order to rise from the dead. Now what was He put to death for ? 1 Cor 15:3-4


3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Adam was created to this end, to bring about the preordained Death of Christ 1 Pet 1:

19But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

You see that ? Foreordained before the foundation of the world, before Adam was made of the dust.

And even in light of all this biblical Truth, many of professing Christianity believe that Christ coming to die was a back up plan to God's creation of Adam and then his failure. They give the preeminence of the purpose of creation to Adam, and not to Christ, but only give Christ a backup or second place consolation prize to Adams failure. This kind of thinking is inexcusable especially to those of us who have been exposed to the scriptures for any length of time.

The creation of this world was for the Eternal Purpose of Christ, in making many brethren in His Image, Through Death and Resurrection, for this is the Gospel 170

 

[svedbygrace]

How was Adam made in the Image of God ?


At Creation, and when God was about to make man God said "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:"

Now God is represented by no Image except by Him Alone who is the Brightness of His Glory: "2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person" Heb 1:2-3

Christ is the Only Image of the Invisible God Col 1:15

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

And so making Adam in our Image was the making him in a type of Christ Rom 5:14. For Adam was not like the Invisible God in His Eternity, His Independent Existence, His Spirituality or Spiritual Character, Independence, that is freedom from control, but he was made a type of Christ as the progenitor or head of a Offspring, a Spiritual Race, but he a natural head of a natural offspring.171

 

[svedbygrace]

How was Adam created in the image of God ? Cont


Lets look at Rom 5:14 Where the inspired writer and Apostle gives us wisdom. Paul states that Adam is the figure of Him to come.

14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

The word figure here is the greek word typos:

the mark of a stroke or blow, print

2) a figure formed by a blow or impression

a) of a figure or image

And alongside that, Christ is the one who was coming, and it has been shown that Christ is the Lord God who created adam and all things in heaven and earth Jn 1:3

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Note: This Truth really confirms the Deity of Christ as God, since Adam is said to be created in God's image, and that image is Christ, Him that was to come, what can be more plainer ?

Those denying Jesus is God, may God if He so wills, grant you repentance.

One more evidence of Christ being God related to image see Col 3:10; Eph 4:24; cp Rom 8:29.

Now in Adam being constituted as the figure, there must have been a body or substance, if he was a type there existed an anti type, a image, then there was an original Col 1:17-18

Now how was Adam a type of the original upon His creation ?167

 

[svedbygrace]

How Adam was made in God's Image !


In Adam being constituted as the figure there must have been a body, as to say Type then Anti Type, the Image, then the Original, Christ as the Head of the Church is the Original that Adam was made After. Co1 1:17-18


17And he [As the Head of the Church] is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Now how was Adam a Type of the original upon his creation ? First, in his formation he stands as a unit, embodying a multitude which no man can number, thus serving as an emblem of the Mediator Man which is One, in whom God has secured a Chosen People, a seed, a chosen generation, a number that no man can number before the foundation of the world.168

 

[svedbygrace]

Eph 1:4

4According as he hath chosen us in him [ Christ] before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Now in light of this scripture, it is so plain that God's Purpose for His People to be Holy and without blame before Him was anchored in the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ, before the foundation of the world. That is before Adam was ever formed from the dust of the ground, God had determined how His people would be made Holy and without blame. However, many in organized religion today believe that God's design for Adam and man in him, was that he should live a perfect sinless life and never should have sinned to bring in sin and death into the world. To them, the Lord Jesus Christ and His work of redemption was a back up plan to Adam's failure. They fail to see and understand that it was God's intended purpose that Adam plunge his people into sin and death that it would be made fit for the realized Eternal Redemptive Purpose centered in the Lord Jesus Christ. Eph 3:8-11

8Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

10To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

To deny that it was God's purpose and will that Adam sin and bring the necessity of redemptive blessing into the world, is a flat out denial that this world, to include Adam and everything created was for the specific purpose of Christ. Col 1:16

16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

It is also an elevation of the creature [Adam] over the Creator which was Christ ! Its a subtle way of worshiping the creature over the Creator who is God Blessed forever. Rom 1:25

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

The Truth of God is that the Lord Jesus Christ is main goal of History and His what He accomplished on the cross to Bring the People of God Holy and without blame before Him. However, those who have changed the Truth, insist that Adam, the creature was the main goal of God accomplishing His purpose of bringing men into Eternal Bliss and Happiness, but Adam just failed and Christ was a backup plan to Adam. Thats changing the Truth of God into a lie ! Adam along with all creation was brought into existence for the Redemptive Purpose of Christ, the Lamb slain from the foundation, in the Eternal Purpose of God.169

 

[svedbygrace]

That He might be the Firstborn among many brethren !


Rom 8:28-29

28And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

It really astonishes me on how so many professing Christians do not realize that God's creation of Adam was in route to a far greater purpose that had to do with Christ and His redeeming Death. This Eternal Purpose necessitated by God's Eternal Purpose that Adam would be responsible for bringing into this world both sin and death Rom 5:12.

We know this because it was always of God's Eternal Purpose in Christ see Eph 3:11, that Christ would be the Firstborn of Many Brethren. When I say Firstborn, I mean His resurrection from the dead. Rom 8:28-29 Tells us whom it is that all things work together for the good unto, those who are called according to God's Purpose. What Purpose ? That purpose which is Eternal, to conform many brethren into the Image of Christ. Not Adam. God determined this image of Christ would be in the likeness of Christ after His Resurrection, so, it was always determined that Christ must rise from the dead Jn 20:6-9

6Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,

7And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.

8Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.

9For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.

Acts 17:3

Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

This is because God had determined before all worlds that He would be the Firstborn from the Dead.

Col 1:15-18


15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

He must in that Have the Preeminence !

Rev 1:5

5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

This Eternal Purpose Eph 3:11 could only be accomplished by Christ resurrection from the dead, which of course means He had to be put to death in order to rise from the dead. Now what was He put to death for ? 1 Cor 15:3-4


3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Adam was created to this end, to bring about the preordained Death of Christ 1 Pet 1:

19But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

You see that ? Foreordained before the foundation of the world, before Adam was made of the dust.

And even in light of all this biblical Truth, many of professing Christianity believe that Christ coming to die was a back up plan to God's creation of Adam and then his failure. They give the preeminence of the purpose of creation to Adam, and not to Christ, but only give Christ a backup or second place consolation prize to Adams failure. This kind of thinking is inexcusable especially to those of us who have been exposed to the scriptures for any length of time.

The creation of this world was for the Eternal Purpose of Christ, in making many brethren in His Image, Through Death and Resurrection, for this is the Gospel 170

 

[just-me]

The question I often ask is, why didn't Adam say I'm sorry, please forgive me. There is no evidence in the bible that they ever repented or gave sacrifice in faith of the redeemer promised. I guess that after walking with God in perfection their guilt held them back.

God gave the first sacrifice if we read further.

Genesis 3:21 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

Obviously there was an animal dead somewhere, and God killed it. The first blood sacrifice. Also, I'm sure that Cain knew about the blood sacrifice God gave to his parents, and that's why he got jealous of Abel when God didn't accept his veggies as acceptable.

 

[svedbygrace]

How was Adam made in the Image of God ?


At Creation, and when God was about to make man God said "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:"

Now God is represented by no Image except by Him Alone who is the Brightness of His Glory: "2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person" Heb 1:2-3

Christ is the Only Image of the Invisible God Col 1:15

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

And so making Adam in our Image was the making him in a type of Christ Rom 5:14. For Adam was not like the Invisible God in His Eternity, His Independent Existence, His Spirituality or Spiritual Character, Independence, that is freedom from control, but he was made a type of Christ as the progenitor or head of a Offspring, a Spiritual Race, but he a natural head of a natural offspring.

 

[Hungry]

I didn't read all of the posts but I have a theory. Not to shake things up but I believe there is ample proof that it was just a snake that tricked Adam. I think God knew exactly what was going to happen. He gave us choice and knew we would choose to disobey just because. Even in a perfect world with one tree in the middle of paradise we would choose sin. This is why God had preplanned to save us from ourselves.

 

[homwardbound]

I didn't read all of the posts but I have a theory. Not to shake things up but I believe there is ample proof that it was just a snake that tricked Adam. I think God knew exactly what was going to happen. He gave us choice and knew we would choose to disobey just because. Even in a perfect world with one tree in the middle of paradise we would choose sin. This is why God had preplanned to save us from ourselves.

Thanks and is done through the Son Christ if we will believe, we will see and thus receive the new life that God gives in and through the resurrection
Colossians 1:22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—

 

[starfield]

I didn't read all of the posts but I have a theory. Not to shake things up but I believe there is ample proof that it was just a snake that tricked Adam. I think God knew exactly what was going to happen. He gave us choice and knew we would choose to disobey just because. Even in a perfect world with one tree in the middle of paradise we would choose sin. This is why God had preplanned to save us from ourselves.

Adam was not tricked by the serpent, but Eve. Genesis 3:6; 1 Timothy 2:14.