What actions constitutes a "sinful lifestyle?"

[mailmandan]

galatians 5:19-21

1 corinthians 6:9-10

heres a nice list.

Galatians 5:19 - Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

The idea of practice is to perform repeatedly or habitually and thus describes repetition or continuous action. Paul uses the present tense which describes the practice as habitual, as one's lifestyle or bent of life. No repentance, just bring it on! Those who continue to practice such sins demonstrate that they are not born of God. Yet this does not mean that the believer lives a sinless, without fault of defect, flawless perfect life 100% of the time either.

1 Corinthians 6:9 - Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

 

[Beez]

. . . Sin . . . is a choice not an action or thought, just as the Bible teaches. . . .

I don't understand this.
Thank you for your answer.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Sin is a state of mind. It can be an action (adultry) it can be a thought (If you look on a woman with lust, you have sinned) but it is rooted in our mind. Who are we serving? Self or God.

If we are serving self. Every thought or actions (moral or not) would be considered a sin, Because we are doing them for self (also called self righteousness.)

If our focus is God and others. A few things happens.

1. We do not have sinful thoughts or actions
2. Our life reflects Christ (who never for one second did ANYTHING for self. Every thought and action was others. And his fathers will)

 

[beastslayer1970]

I don't understand this.
Thank you for your answer.

Look at the rest of my post and you will learn that Sin is a choice we make after we are saved.

 

[followjesus]

Every failure in a Christian life is cause by us resulting to the flesh and trying to do what's needs to be done by the means of the flesh which is guaranteed to fail. The Apostle Paul makes it crystal clear that those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Most Christians don't see it as the flesh when they are in the flesh.

We must enter into sanctification where the deeds of the flesh is mortified by the Holy Spirit. Failure to do so the sin nature is reactivated (The Law of Sin and Death) and Grace is frustrated.

romans 12: 1-2 " I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

romans 6: "What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace?God forbid.16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. 19I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. 21What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. 22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

[followjesus]

Galatians 5:19 - Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

The idea of practice is to perform repeatedly or habitually and thus describes repetition or continuous action. Paul uses the present tense which describes the practice as habitual, as one's lifestyle or bent of life. No repentance, just bring it on! Those who continue to practice such sins demonstrate that they are not born of God. Yet this does not mean that the believer lives a sinless, without fault of defect, flawless perfect life 100% of the time either.

1 Corinthians 6:9 - Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6:9 - Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

ephesians 5 " Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;2And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

3But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5Forthis ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

 

[followjesus]

Sin is a state of mind. It can be an action (adultry) it can be a thought (If you look on a woman with lust, you have sinned) but it is rooted in our mind. Who are we serving? Self or God.

If we are serving self. Every thought or actions (moral or not) would be considered a sin, Because we are doing them for self (also called self righteousness.)

If our focus is God and others. A few things happens.

1. We do not have sinful thoughts or actions
2. Our life reflects Christ (who never for one second did ANYTHING for self. Every thought and action was others. And his fathers will)

If we are serving self. Every thought or actions (moral or not) would be considered a sin,

james 1 "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If we are serving self. Every thought or actions (moral or not) would be considered a sin,

james 1 "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Lust is self serving/

So yes, Self serving will always lead to sin.

 

[followjesus]

If you are suggesting that a Saved person should be praying for sin to be removed, then this is a false teaching. Only the shed blood of Jesus removed Sin.

"Only the shed blood of Jesus removed Sin"

mark 2 " When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. ...v10 " But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins.."

luke 7 : Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.49And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also? 50And he said to the woman,Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace. "

Only Jesus can forgive and remove sin. regarding prayer. do you think christians dont struggle with sin? as if they cant be tempted? and if they are struggling, why wouldnt they pray for cleansing, forgiveness, guidance not into temptation? why wouldnt they pray for righteousness like Jesus taught?


matthew 6 : And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. 8Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.10Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

matthew 6:33 " But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.sure im saying we should pray for God to rid our lives of the sin we struggle with, its actually one of the Most important things we can do fight sin, fight temptation with prayer and Gods Word. through Faith in Jesus Christ, which is actually what saves, He is greater than just a lamb who shed the blood of the covenant, He is also the testator of Gods Will.

 

[followjesus]

Lust is self serving/

So yes, Self serving will always lead to sin.

yes i just wanted to add that scripture to what you said....

 

[Beez]

If our focus is God and others. A few things happens.

1. We do not have sinful thoughts or actions
2. Our life reflects Christ (who never for one second did ANYTHING for self. Every thought and action was others. And his fathers will)

I wish I was like this all the time, but I'm not. That is certainly a clear indicator that my focus is not always on Him and on others. I do have negative thoughts, and sometimes, I react to them.

 

[Beez]

Look at the rest of my post and you will learn that Sin is a choice we make after we are saved.

Yes, I know that sin is a choice, but I believe that all people sin.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Yes, I know that sin is a choice, but I believe that all people sin.

But the difference between "all people" and those who possess the Holy Spirit is that sin cannot (and must not) have DOMINION over children of God. So those who are habitually sinning must examine themselves carefully to see if they really have been born again or were merely *professors* (professing to be Christians but living like the Devil).

There will be tares in the churches, but the wheat must produce spiritual fruit. Which means that their lifestyle will be totally different. Christians are not sinlessly perfect, but if they are genuine then they will walk according to the Spirit, and not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I wish I was like this all the time, but I'm not. That is certainly a clear indicator that my focus is not always on Him and on others. I do have negative thoughts, and sometimes, I react to them.

I am with you sis.. Thank God for Grace..

 

[MarcR]

Look at the rest of my post and you will learn that Sin is a choice we make after we are saved.

That is certainly a valid way of looking at it. It is NOT the only valid way of looking at it.

 

[OneFaith]

This is not a rhetorical question. We as Christians have a guide as to how to live our daily lives, but can we live that way 24/7?

So, what actually is a "sinful lifestyle?"

Keep in mind there are sins of omission as well as commission.

Thanks,

Living a sinful lifestyle is daily practice of premeditated sin, without goal or effort to stop. You are not tempted in the moment and fail, you plan and provide for future conditions to support your sinful habits, while pretending that Christ’s blood (God’s grace) is a license to sin all you want.

 

[Mercy4u]

This is not a rhetorical question. We as Christians have a guide as to how to live our daily lives, but can we live that way 24/7?

So, what actually is a "sinful lifestyle?"

Keep in mind there are sins of omission as well as commission.

Thanks,

One lifestyle of sin is to be living/believing/teaching that believers can perish/lose salvation. It is Arguably, the worst lifestyle of sin/apostasy a believer can live in.

Their faith is dead. And do nothing from faith.

Rom 14:23New American Standard Bible
But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.

They are still saved, But will have shame rather than rewards. 1 John 2:28

John 10:28
New American Standard Bible
and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.

John 5:24
New American Standard Bible
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

 

[beastslayer1970]

One lifestyle of sin is to be living/believing/teaching that believers can perish/lose salvation. It is Arguably, the worst lifestyle of sin/apostasy a believer can live in.

Their faith is dead. And do nothing from faith.

Rom 14:23New American Standard Bible
But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.

They are still saved, But will have shame rather than rewards. 1 John 2:28

John 10:28
New American Standard Bible
and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.

John 5:24
New American Standard Bible
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Gee, I wonder if judging another believers salvation and eternal condition is a sinful lifestyle and not discernment?

 

[beastslayer1970]

That is certainly a valid way of looking at it. It is NOT the only valid way of looking at it.

If you believe we are helpless over sin and there is sin we commit without choice, then that is your choice

 

[beastslayer1970]

But the difference between "all people" and those who possess the Holy Spirit is that sin cannot (and must not) have DOMINION over children of God. So those who are habitually sinning must examine themselves carefully to see if they really have been born again or were merely *professors* (professing to be Christians but living like the Devil).

There will be tares in the churches, but the wheat must produce spiritual fruit. Which means that their lifestyle will be totally different. Christians are not sinlessly perfect, but if they are genuine then they will walk according to the Spirit, and not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

I will also add to this, that the doctrine of sin-consciousness that invades the church keep people in bondage to Satan and the truth is such people actually continually keep Jesus on the cross and keep him crucified by believing the clap trap they are powerless over sin. People will howl and get upset when I say this, but this is a form of denying Christ.

I also think people are not taught correctly about the cross. The shed blood of the cross provided forgiveness of our sin and translated us form the powers of darkness into the Kingdom of his dear son. Complete victory was made at the tomb.

It is at the tomb we are made new, not at the cross.