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ForestGreenCook

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Yes they do after we are in Christ in His new covenant church by the grace of sacramental baptism,
Matthew 7:7
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Matt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
1 cor 13:2 & 1 cor 13:13 charity
1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
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The scriptures has nothing to do with eternal deliverance, only deliverances that the child of God receives as he sojourns here on earth.
 

ForestGreenCook

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Immersion, sprinkling, pouring are all valid for baptism as long as pure water runs over the forehead with words of the proper minister of baptism saying: I baptize you in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit Matt 28:19
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Baptism is signifying the "death, BURIAL, and resurrection" of Jesus. Burial=bury
 

ForestGreenCook

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Of course it's an event.
Luke 15:10
10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
The natural man (1 Cor 2:14) will not repent of breaking one of God's spiritual laws that he thinks is foolishness.
 

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Can you be saved without a priest?
Define what you mean by "priest."

Jesus Christ has become the high priest (Heb 3:1; 4-14-15), and we cannot become saved without him.

If you're referring to a run-of-the-mill priest, then yes, absolutely. We can be saved without them.
 

jaybo

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Immersion, sprinkling, pouring are all valid for baptism as long as pure water runs over the forehead with words of the proper minister of baptism saying: I baptize you in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit Matt 28:19
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jaybo

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No faith and the sacrament of baptismal regeneration to be a new creation by the transforming power of grace

The Christian sacrament* of baptismal regeneration is required for the new covenant and salvation!

*this promise acts 2:38-39 is a sacred oath from God ez 36:25-27 and a sacred oath is a sacrament!

Initiation!!!


Faith & Baptism is the initiation of the new and eternal covenant!

You cannot enter on you’re own or by “faith alone”!

You cannot receive Christ or grace by “faith alone”!

“Accept Christ as you’re personal lord and savior” is fundamentalist tradition not found scripture!

Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Baptismal regeneration a new creation in Christ! 2 Cor 5:17

A sacrament is an oath! A sacred promise from God! Ez 36:25-27
Acts 2:38-39 (this promise)

No baptism no grace!

A sacrament is an outward sign for all men including infants And a gift from God to help us see what he does inwardly and invisibly by his grace!

As grace Washes our souls in the merits of Jesus blood from original and personal sin, so the outward action of washing is visible!

without the outward action the inward action cannot take place!

Jn 3:5 Titus 3:5 water and washing
acts 22:16 wash away your sin!

Jn 3:5 Born again BY water and the spirit! Not by “faith alone”!

They did not go to Jerusalem and preach “accept Christ as you’re personal Lord and savior “

They went to the river (water) and they baptized! Jn 3:22

A covenant requires an outward sign of the inward action of grace!

Ez 36:25 I will sprinkle you with clean water and you shall be made white as snow.

Acts 22:16 washing away your sins.

Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 pet 3:21 baptism saves you.

You cannot enter on you’re own or by faith alone!

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,


Baptism!

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 eph 2

Born again! Born from above!

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who I has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by God thru baptism!



Christ instituted the holy church for the salvation of all men, (repent and believe the gospel, with the institution of the sacraments to convey grace to sanctify souls!


Effects of faith & baptism!

Ez 36:25-27 washed in baptism, with a new heart and the Spirit
Jn 3:5 born again in baptism
Mk 16:16 faith & baptist
Acts 2:38 repentance & baptism
Acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
Acts 22:16 baptism washes away sin
Rom 6:3 died with Christ
Col 2:12 risen with Christ
1 cor 12:13 baptized into the church
Gal 3:27 by baptism put on Christ
2 Tim 1:10 eph 2:1 and 5 brought to life
2 cor 5:17 new creation
Eph 1:13 sealed by the Holy Spirit
Eph 4:5 one faith, one baptism
Eph 5:26 faith and baptism
Titus 3:5 baptismal regeneration
1 pet 1:2 washed in Christ’s blood
1 pet 2:9 the kingdom of light
1 pet 3:20-21 baptism saves us!

“Faith alone” accomplishes nothing!
1 cor 13:2 even all faith (alone) without charity avails NOTHING!!!

Faith and baptism!

Scripture says none of the things about “Faith alone”!

Only James 2:24 a man is justified by works and not by “faith alone”

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!
"The Christian sacrament* of baptismal regeneration is required for the new covenant and salvation!" ???

READ YOUR BIBLE!!!

"The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!"

The apostles are all dead.
 
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The scriptures has nothing to do with eternal deliverance, only deliverances that the child of God receives as he sojourns here on earth.
“Faith alone” Without Charity?

Deut. 6:5
5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

1 cor 13:2 all faith without charity avails nothing.

1 cor 13:12 now abide faith, hope, and charity, and the greatest of these is charity.

If salvation was by “faith alone” then faith would be the greatest!!!

If we are saved by faith alone then when we first believed we would be saved?

Romans 13:11
…our salvation nearer than when we believed.

James 5:20
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
 
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"The Christian sacrament* of baptismal regeneration is required for the new covenant and salvation!" ???

READ YOUR BIBLE!!!

"The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!"

The apostles are all dead.
Not according to Christ and scripture
Matt 28:19-20 I am with you (apostles) till the end
Acts 1:8 witnesses to the ends of the earth. Thanks
 
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Didache (teaching of the apostles)
Acts 2:42

Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism. And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.
 

ForestGreenCook

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“Faith alone” Without Charity?

Deut. 6:5
5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

1 cor 13:2 all faith without charity avails nothing.

1 cor 13:12 now abide faith, hope, and charity, and the greatest of these is charity.

If salvation was by “faith alone” then faith would be the greatest!!!

If we are saved by faith alone then when we first believed we would be saved?

Romans 13:11
…our salvation nearer than when we believed.

James 5:20
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

None of these scriptures are referencing eternal deliverance. Only deliverances that the born again child of God receives as he sojourns here on earth.
 

Dino246

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Bishops do!
But you right in the case of emergency any baptized Christian can perform baptism but none of the other six sacraments thanks
Bishops? If you mean elders or overseers, then they are not necessarily apostles, according to Scripture.

"Other six sacraments"? Your Catholic delusion is showing again. Don't bother arguing as though your position is assumed, for it most certainly is not.

There is no biblical reason why any Christian cannot perform a wedding (though it may not be recognized legally). Scripture says nothing of any other "sacraments".

You would do well to learn what Scripture says about these matters and stop relying on what the Catholics have brainwashed taught you to believe.
 
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Baptism is signifying the "death, BURIAL, and resurrection" of Jesus. Burial=bury
Baptismal regeneration makes us Christian in union with Christ and communion with God and Mary our spiritual mother and the saints of God
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Define what you mean by "priest."

Jesus Christ has become the high priest (Heb 3:1; 4-14-15), and we cannot become saved without him.

If you're referring to a run-of-the-mill priest, then yes, absolutely. We can be saved without them.
you right Christ is eternal priest heb 7:17
How does one become saved and when?
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"The Christian sacrament* of baptismal regeneration is required for the new covenant and salvation!" ???

READ YOUR BIBLE!!!

"The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!"

The apostles are all dead.
The apostles are saints Jude 1:3 and not dead, they died yes but are not dead.

Matthew 22:32
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Jn 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
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Dino246

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Can you be saved without a priest?
Given that Jesus is our High Priest, the answer is No, of course.

If you mean (as I suspect) a mere human priest, the answer is Yes, of course.
 

Dino246

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Baptismal regeneration makes us Christian in union with Christ and communion with God and Mary our spiritual mother and the saints of God
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Um, no. Keep promoting Catholic hogwash and you WILL be banned.