What does it mean to BELIEVE IN JESUS?

[Guojing]

Thats the first. Hebrews for tribulation.
Example.
Heb 9:28 KJV So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

There is a reason why Hebrews was placed after Paul's last letter to the Gentiles, which is Philemon.

Hebrews to Revelations are doctrine for the Tribulation period, where the Jews will once again be preached the Gospel of the Kingdom. They will need faith and works to be considered saved at the end of the the Tribulation.

And yes, during the 7 years of Jacob's trouble, the temple will be rebuilt so the temptation to go back to animal sacrifice will be there.

 

[Chris1975]

Can you stop believing?

Adam and Eve stopped believing in the threat of God "Thou shalt not eat of the tree of good and evil" - And the rest as they say is history.

 

[Chris1975]

But can you stop, believing in Jesus?

Yes. Its called Apostasy. In the Greek "Apostasia". It's in the bible for a very good reason.

 

[Chris1975]

You cannot stop believing in something you experience? Can you stop believing you are sitting in a chair while sitting in a chair? Do you need to choose you are sitting in a chair while sitting in a chair? So it is with Christ.

Simple correlations like this won't make the grade. We are warned about false prophets and teachers, who secretly slip in amongst us, and through various heresies, denials and twisting - can overthrow the faith of some. That is why we are to take HEED.

 

[OneOfHis]

Adam and Eve stopped believing in the threat of God "Thou shalt not eat of the tree of good and evil" - And the rest as they say is history.

Adam was not decieved and eve heard the warning from adam, she even added on to it "or even touch it".....

Also to call Gods loving warning a threat feels weird.

 

[Chris1975]

Did you believe in santa when you were a kid?

A most BRILLIANT response.

 

[OneOfHis]

Yes. Its called Apostasy. In the Greek "Apostasia". It's in the bible for a very good reason.

1 John 2:19
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

 

[watcher2013]

Who knows, you're the writer and watcher of this story.


Lol, if that man was doing those sinful works (offering sacrifice for other sins)all we know his faith does not appear to be in Christ.


Wether or not it ever "was" is between he and God.


Works provide nothing more than evidence and only before man where someones places their faith in.

So the question is just.... not fruitful...



One man may seem before us based on his works that he is loving and genuine and helpful and based on his words he may appear to know the truth. That does not mean God made that person new.


Another may demonstrate a moment of weakness and say something or so something against their faith, like when peter denied Jesus.

Of course those he denied Jesus in front of would call peter an unbeliever, but God knowing the heart He put in peter and seeing past the sin of the flesh knew peter believed in Jesus.

We were once unbeliever, like the jew (example) who once believed that animal sacrifices pardon their sins.
But have come back for animal sacrifice for his sins.
Is that not possible?

 

[OneOfHis]

Did you believe in santa when you were a kid?

You can't choose what you believe.

You stop believing in santa because your parents decieved you and you learn what is or isnt real.


How can you stop believing in a Holy Father who isnt fiction and who works in you and never lies or fails you...🤦‍♂️

 

[Chris1975]

Adam was not decieved and eve heard the warning from adam, she even added on to it "or even touch it".....

Also to call Gods loving warning a threat feels weird.

The warning was a threat. The conequences was hell for mankind for which the majority plunge headlong. A threat by no other name.

To believe is to obey. Adam didn't BELIEVE ENOUGH to heed the warning/threat/commandment. To believe is to obey because obedience is the fruit of belief.

 

[watcher2013]

There is a reason why Hebrews was placed after Paul's last letter to the Gentiles, which is Philemon.

Hebrews to Revelations are doctrine for the Tribulation period, where the Jews will once again be preached the Gospel of the Kingdom. They will need faith and works to be considered saved at the end of the the Tribulation.

And yes, during the 7 years of Jacob's trouble, the temple will be rebuilt so the temptation to go back to animal sacrifice will be there.

Where in the scriptures said that it will be rebuilt during tribulation?

 

[Chris1975]

You can't choose what you believe.

You stop believing in santa because your parents decieved you and you learn what is or isnt real.


How can you stop believing in a Holy Father who isnt fiction and who works in you and never lies or fails you...🤦‍♂️

Because of false prophets and teachers.

 

[OneOfHis]

We were once unbeliever, like the jew (example) who once believed that animal sacrifices pardon their sins.
But have come back for animal sacrifice for his sins.
Is that not possible?

No it is impossible, I know my Father.

Also, in unbelief I held no belief....

I had NO belief and only assumptions which felt correct.

Once I had belief in Jesus, He, God continued to reveal more and more of Himself to me.


It would be easier to convince me that fire is cold than that my Holy Father .... doesnt exist when I know Him and He knows me...

 

[OneOfHis]

Because of false prophets and teachers.

So youre saying now a false teacher can convince you God is fake and santa is real?

That is possible for you to believe?


(if your answer is no, youre being double minded, if your answer is yes... you do not have faith trust or confidence in Christ as of yet)

 

[Chris1975]

False believers will fall away. But you cannot doubt Christ when he lives in your heart.

"False believers" is an oxymoron. It doesn't exist. There is no scriptural support for someone who believes (but doesn't really believe). There is only scriptural support for those who believe (for a while, but then fall away).

 

[Chris1975]

So youre saying now a false teacher can convince you God is fake and santa is real?

That is possible for you to believe?


(if your answer is no, youre being double minded, if your answer is yes... you do not have faith trust or confidence in Christ as of yet)

If I sit under the teachings of a false prophet, don't search out the scriptures myself, then it is very possible that I can be deceived. Even the bible says so ("who will even deceive the Elect, if possible")

 

[Chris1975]

Can you give back the gift that was given to you?

Yes. Hebrews 6v4-6 says so.

 

[Chris1975]

Even when you stop believing, Jesus remains faithful. Once you're in the body of Christ, you are sealed by His Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption. It's a future redemption. The Holy Spirit is our guarantee that this will happen no matter how far away we may stray.

This statement above is a lie. He is mischaracterising the scripture he is asserting.

 

[Chris1975]

I have a friend who is saved, born again, and he stopped believing in Jesus. A close family member was killed and it devastated him. He blamed God. He stopped believing what the Bible said and turned agnostic. Is he saved? I believe he is.

NO HE IS NOT. He is apostate.

 

[OneOfHis]

If I sit under the teachings of a false prophet, don't search out the scriptures myself, then it is very possible that I can be deceived. Even the bible says so ("who will even deceive the Elect, if possible")

If a false teacher can convince you that God is fake and santa is real...


This does not describe your faith... v

4102. pistis ►

Strong's Concordance

pistis: faith, faithfulness​

Original Word: πίστις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pistis
Phonetic Spelling: (pis'-tis)
Definition: faith, faithfulness
Usage: faith, belief, trust, confidence; fidelity, faithfulness.
HELPS Word-studies
4102 pístis (from 3982/peithô, "persuade, be persuaded") – properly, persuasion (be persuaded, come to trust​

This would ....v

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.



I hear my Fathers voice and could not be decieved about Gods word since the Holy spirit is my teacher