WHAT DOES THE WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT TEACH?
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about Joyce Meyer...I don't know why it would be difficult to ascertain if she is still WOF or not
just listening to her teaching or reading her books will determine that she is not
the following is from her site ... there is no problem finding out info on the net and I don't know why it would seem to be a problem for some ?
however, here is a link that states the Meyer ministries do not teach WOF
Is Joyce Meyer Ministries a "word of faith" ministry?
just listening to her teaching or reading her books will determine that she is not
the following is from her site ... there is no problem finding out info on the net and I don't know why it would seem to be a problem for some ?
however, here is a link that states the Meyer ministries do not teach WOF
Is Joyce Meyer Ministries a "word of faith" ministry?
- Joyce Meyer Ministries believes in the Word of God. Joyce teaches that God has made promises to us in His Word and as believers, we should trust His promises (see 2 Peter 1:3,4 ). However, it can be damaging when people place their faith in faith alone instead of placing their faith in God. Misappropriation of God’s promises solely for personal gain is not scripturally supported.
- Does Joyce Meyer Ministries teach a "prosperity gospel"?
- Joyce Meyer Ministries believes that God desires to bless His people. Joyce teaches that God’s blessings and prosperity apply to the spiritual, emotional, physical and financial areas of life. These blessings and prosperity are then to be used to bless others (see Genesis 12:2). A “prosperity gospel” that solely equates blessing with financial gain is out of balance and could damage a person’s walk with God.
You should know sevenseas that I did look at the site you posted and read it. The question is on what basis should I believe the answers by joyce myer's own staff that she is not wof anymore? In 1991 I wrote a letter to kenneth copland ministries where copeland taught that Jesus Christ died spiritually and was born again in hell. In fact I still have the letter and in it the person told me that brother copeland was not implying that Jesus was a sinner and needed salvation.
The fact is I was not implying that Jesus was a sinner and needed salvation. I was going by what copeland stated on his cassett tape, "What Happened From the Cross to the Throne." I also still have the tape. In that tape copeland starts out by saying the exact words to his audience, "You don't know what happened at the cross." He then goes on to explain how Jesus Christ went down into hell and was tortured by Satan and his minions in hell until God the Father bellowed out, "enough," let Him loose and then Jesus was born again.
Other wof teachers taught the same exact thing and they got it from copeland. Here is joyce meyer on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFG7cXOLiQQ She still have more than one multi-million dollar houses, a private jet and other goodies. If a person is really going to repent they would come out an rennounce these blamphemous teachings publicly. Jim Bakker who ended up in jail came out a real born again man and rennouced everything he had done.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
The fact is I was not implying that Jesus was a sinner and needed salvation. I was going by what copeland stated on his cassett tape, "What Happened From the Cross to the Throne." I also still have the tape. In that tape copeland starts out by saying the exact words to his audience, "You don't know what happened at the cross." He then goes on to explain how Jesus Christ went down into hell and was tortured by Satan and his minions in hell until God the Father bellowed out, "enough," let Him loose and then Jesus was born again.
Other wof teachers taught the same exact thing and they got it from copeland. Here is joyce meyer on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFG7cXOLiQQ She still have more than one multi-million dollar houses, a private jet and other goodies. If a person is really going to repent they would come out an rennounce these blamphemous teachings publicly. Jim Bakker who ended up in jail came out a real born again man and rennouced everything he had done.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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You should know sevenseas that I did look at the site you posted and read it. The question is on what basis should I believe the answers by joyce myer's own staff that she is not wof anymore? In 1991 I wrote a letter to kenneth copland ministries where copeland taught that Jesus Christ died spiritually and was born again in hell. In fact I still have the letter and in it the person told me that brother copeland was not implying that Jesus was a sinner and needed salvation.
The fact is I was not implying that Jesus was a sinner and needed salvation. I was going by what copeland stated on his cassett tape, "What Happened From the Cross to the Throne." I also still have the tape. In that tape copeland starts out by saying the exact words to his audience, "You don't know what happened at the cross." He then goes on to explain how Jesus Christ went down into hell and was tortured by Satan and his minions in hell until God the Father bellowed out, "enough," let Him loose and then Jesus was born again.
Other wof teachers taught the same exact thing and they got it from copeland. Here is joyce meyer on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFG7cXOLiQQ She still have more than one multi-million dollar houses, a private jet and other goodies. If a person is really going to repent they would come out an rennounce these blamphemous teachings publicly. Jim Bakker who ended up in jail came out a real born again man and rennouced everything he had done.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
The fact is I was not implying that Jesus was a sinner and needed salvation. I was going by what copeland stated on his cassett tape, "What Happened From the Cross to the Throne." I also still have the tape. In that tape copeland starts out by saying the exact words to his audience, "You don't know what happened at the cross." He then goes on to explain how Jesus Christ went down into hell and was tortured by Satan and his minions in hell until God the Father bellowed out, "enough," let Him loose and then Jesus was born again.
Other wof teachers taught the same exact thing and they got it from copeland. Here is joyce meyer on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFG7cXOLiQQ She still have more than one multi-million dollar houses, a private jet and other goodies. If a person is really going to repent they would come out an rennounce these blamphemous teachings publicly. Jim Bakker who ended up in jail came out a real born again man and rennouced everything he had done.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
She just finished saying do not have faith in faith, but have faith in a person, Jesus Christ and that is 100% biblical
1991 was a long time ago. I am not the same person I was back then, are you?
my grandfather was a millionaire. does that mean I do not love God? or that he did not love God?
it is irksome that some seem to believe you cannot love God if you are rich. now if riches are your God, that is another story, but I have really looked into the Joyce Meyer ministries and they are actually on the ground helping people. Not singing songs and swaying on stage or all about emotions and feeling good.
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that video is really old and people seem to enjoy presenting is as proof of her WOF teaching
but like I said, I have changed, she has changed and if anyone could see themselves 20 or so years ago, they might be a little embarrassed at what they believed or thought was true
it's no skin off my back if you don't care for her. there are more than a few I do not care for myself.
she is not the same person as in that video. if she was, I would not care for her teaching.
but like I said, I have changed, she has changed and if anyone could see themselves 20 or so years ago, they might be a little embarrassed at what they believed or thought was true
it's no skin off my back if you don't care for her. there are more than a few I do not care for myself.
she is not the same person as in that video. if she was, I would not care for her teaching.
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I can't watch Jim Baker. He has fallen into the same trap as before with less success. but you know, if you think he is all that, well.........
but don't tell someone to watch a video from like 20 years ago or whatever. I don't live in a time warp and frankly I am surprised myself at how much Joyce makes sense.
but don't tell someone to watch a video from like 20 years ago or whatever. I don't live in a time warp and frankly I am surprised myself at how much Joyce makes sense.
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so like here is a current video from Joyce Meyer entitled Why Doesn't God Give me What I Want?
that would hardly be a WOF teaching
HERE IT IS
that would hardly be a WOF teaching
HERE IT IS
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its nto faith that determins if youre healed or not? amazing new truth because I read Jesus said over and over that it was faith that healing came about.. Then Jesus taught His discples to do the very same things.. so much so that there wasnt enough books to contain it all... who is sick in Heaven? nobody! let your will be done on earth as it is in heaven... problem is you people keep planting doubt..... be doubters but it is a horrible thing to tell folks that healing doesnt come... why not to all? we dont know everything about them as Christ who searches does..
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to not forgive and not repent is lack of faith.. He is solid in meanings.. you cant merely say you believe and it count.. people are fooled but God knows.. Too many accounts thru the whole Bible to refute healing not being available for all... even people who weren't in the fold received.. its easier to say God doesnt heal than it is to actually live and believe all of the word
Might I recommend the garlic mashed potatoes and the gluten-free black bean burgers ? They're currently running a special on the "Time of Trouble Tasty Deluxe Plus Offer" for only $10,976.00. Over 10,000 servings at only $.33 a serving with a 25 year shelf life. I'm getting hungry just thinking about it. That should get you thru the great tribulation .
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Might I recommend the garlic mashed potatoes and the gluten-free black bean burgers ? They're currently running a special on the "Time of Trouble Tasty Deluxe Plus Offer" for only $10,976.00. Over 10,000 servings at only $.33 a serving with a 25 year shelf life. I'm getting hungry just thinking about it. That should get you thru the great tribulation .
.Baker is still hustling people, asking for money ALL the time and makes sure to plug into whatever prophecy is currently making the rounds
and still building buildings and expecting Christians to fill the coffers. it's sad. I think he is sincere, but sincerely not right on target
First off, I've seen Joyce preach and it's to have faith in God. Second, it's true that people slander her. Never heard of "Heresy hunters" but it probably describes the bullies who make Youtube videos taking things out of context and replacing their words to make them look bad.
One of these bullies made a video saying that a preacher was a heretic for using the word "person" to describe Lord Jesus. This person said that the preacher was a false prophet wicked wolf in sheep's clothing and that "person" was a word used only to describe a man in the flesh.
Well guess what? I closed the video, then remembered this:
Hebrews 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high
Wow, scripture referring to God as a person? Maybe that "heresy hunter" should spend more time discerning and less time slandering.
You just said people were "duped" in to following these wolves, and said you could go on and on with quotes, but you haven't actually quoted anyone. If you're going to teach that someone is a false teacher, can you please link the videos or source material so we can see for ourselves?
After typing this I clicked on the website you provided and saw this:
That's not what Joyce teaches, at all. Sorry, no time for slander and pitiful envy.
One of these bullies made a video saying that a preacher was a heretic for using the word "person" to describe Lord Jesus. This person said that the preacher was a false prophet wicked wolf in sheep's clothing and that "person" was a word used only to describe a man in the flesh.
Well guess what? I closed the video, then remembered this:
Hebrews 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high
Wow, scripture referring to God as a person? Maybe that "heresy hunter" should spend more time discerning and less time slandering.
You just said people were "duped" in to following these wolves, and said you could go on and on with quotes, but you haven't actually quoted anyone. If you're going to teach that someone is a false teacher, can you please link the videos or source material so we can see for ourselves?
After typing this I clicked on the website you provided and saw this:
That's not what Joyce teaches, at all. Sorry, no time for slander and pitiful envy.
I checked rosemary and I could not find any evidence that she left or rennounced wof. I found this site from 2014. Is Joyce Meyer Word of Faith? And here is a more recent one from 2017. Search Results for “joyce meyer” – Pulpit & Pen
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto