What Does "Under" a Covenant mean?
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Usually to be "under" a covenant means several things. It can mean under, like protection. Or a covenant can mean a contract of sorts, like a promise.
Jesus made a promise to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, ect that He wouldn't abandon the Israelites. So even though sometimes people of Jewish people don't follow God, He still prospers them because He honors His promises.
People can enter a "covenant marriage," in which they promise themselves not only that they're gonna stay married but also it becomes a promise to God as well.
See what I mean?
Jesus made a promise to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, ect that He wouldn't abandon the Israelites. So even though sometimes people of Jewish people don't follow God, He still prospers them because He honors His promises.
People can enter a "covenant marriage," in which they promise themselves not only that they're gonna stay married but also it becomes a promise to God as well.
See what I mean?
Have you ever purchased a home? Purchased an automobile or other large ticket item which required contractual agreement?
If so, you were "under a covenant" with the lender/financier.
We, under the New Covenant, are a ransomed people, purchased by the blood of Jesus the Christ. The New Covenant established by Him, in accordance with God's will is Grace. The "purpose/end" is eternal salvation for all who believe.
If so, you were "under a covenant" with the lender/financier.
We, under the New Covenant, are a ransomed people, purchased by the blood of Jesus the Christ. The New Covenant established by Him, in accordance with God's will is Grace. The "purpose/end" is eternal salvation for all who believe.
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This is somewhat on track, but a covenant is much more than that. It is literally a contract, and when one party of the contract is God, it can be absolutely trusted and written in stone that the contract will be fulfilled. Such was the ceremony in Genesis 15, in which Abram/Abraham asked how he would know God would give him the land.
The Father put Abram into a deep sleep, and then performed a ceremony that has been documented from the most ancient of cultures, that of cutting animals, from the large to the small, in halves and then walking a path between the halves laid on either side, reciting, "As has been done to these animals, so may it be done unto me if I fail to live up to the covenant between us," or words to that effect.
But God was the only one passing between the halves of those slaughtered animals, so God was the only responsible party! Abram had to do nothing but believe, which he expressed in Genesis 15:6, the Father crediting it to him as righteousness. Such is salvation: Only God makes a commitment to do. We must only believe, and that belief precedes the commitment God makes. Once we believe, we have salvation, and it totally upon God to provide it.
The Father put Abram into a deep sleep, and then performed a ceremony that has been documented from the most ancient of cultures, that of cutting animals, from the large to the small, in halves and then walking a path between the halves laid on either side, reciting, "As has been done to these animals, so may it be done unto me if I fail to live up to the covenant between us," or words to that effect.
But God was the only one passing between the halves of those slaughtered animals, so God was the only responsible party! Abram had to do nothing but believe, which he expressed in Genesis 15:6, the Father crediting it to him as righteousness. Such is salvation: Only God makes a commitment to do. We must only believe, and that belief precedes the commitment God makes. Once we believe, we have salvation, and it totally upon God to provide it.
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Mike Moustakas is under covenant with David Glass. So is the rest of the KC Royals team.
A covenant is a contract, legal agreement, testament, will. It's a legal contract.
Purpose? To get what you want and give what you need to give to get what you want. lol
Old Testament is Old Covenant -- Man agreeing with God. We were under that contract, until we broke it. (We broke it quickly and often.)
New Testament is New Covenant -- God agreeing with God. Jesus took our place, knowing we can't/won't, so the Father signed on the dotted line in agreement. That one is unbreakable, since both sides are perfect and causality (and effect.) We're under that covenant as Jesus's assets and liabilities, but, Jesus being Jesus, he already killed off our liabilities. Our job, through him in us, is to make sure they know they're dead! (Sinful nature has a habit of trying to raise from the dead, but we're to live in God's nature now.)
A covenant is a contract, legal agreement, testament, will. It's a legal contract.
Purpose? To get what you want and give what you need to give to get what you want. lol
Old Testament is Old Covenant -- Man agreeing with God. We were under that contract, until we broke it. (We broke it quickly and often.)
New Testament is New Covenant -- God agreeing with God. Jesus took our place, knowing we can't/won't, so the Father signed on the dotted line in agreement. That one is unbreakable, since both sides are perfect and causality (and effect.) We're under that covenant as Jesus's assets and liabilities, but, Jesus being Jesus, he already killed off our liabilities. Our job, through him in us, is to make sure they know they're dead! (Sinful nature has a habit of trying to raise from the dead, but we're to live in God's nature now.)
