Zone,
since I don't know who they were, I can't say.
I wasn't there.
you don't know who they are/were either.
i've seen that interpretation before and it doesn't sit right.
maybe.
It tells us who they are ,
R 11:4, "These are the two olive trees,and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth."
The parallel passage in Zech 4:1-14, tells us that these 2 olive trees are "the word of the Lord", v 6,
And "....the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord...", v14.
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If they were SEEN as the word of God, in the time of Zech,
Then these spirits were "present" at that time.
What was the "word of God" to Zerubbabel?
Zech 4:6-10.
The "word of God" to Zerubbabel is still with us today in the OT.
The 2 spirits still speak to us.
It is itself (this scripture), now witnessing in Jerusalem through the people there.
The words of God speak now in Jerusalem.
The spirits (people of Israel, flesh) that witness of Jesus ( through the OT), still speak as they have for thousands of years.
Those 2 witnesses, the Law and the Prophets, still speak to us, and the world today.
They are saying that Jesus is our Savior.
if you mean today or future, that's a laugh.
the Law & Prophets in Israel today is non existent.
Talmud denigrates the Law and ridicules the prophets.
So, they don't read the Law of Moses any more in Israel?
They don't read the Prophets anymore?
These are "non-existent" in Israel?
Do you really believe that?
The promise of restoration to the land was fulfilled when they were brought out of, went out of Babylon.
it's all well documented.
they got there in time for the arrival of THE PROMISE, Jesus.
that's how we have the first hand accounts
I agree in a general sense.
a few received Him and were saved and became the disciples/apostles.
their message about another LAND PROMISE is here:
Hebrews 11
8By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9By faith he went to live in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise. 10For he was looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God. 11By faith Sarah herself received power to conceive, even when she was past the age, since she considered him faithful who had promised. 12Therefore from one man, and him as good as dead, were born descendants as many as the stars of heaven and as many as the innumerable grains of sand by the seashore.
13These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. 14For people who speak thus make it clear that they are seeking a homeland. 15If they had been thinking of that land from which they had gone out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.
I pray that we all make it by God's grace, to that Holy City, Heavenly Jerusalem.
But that is what this is saying, that we are looking for the heavenly Jerusalem with Jesus.
It doesn't seem to be referring to the dest in 70 ad.
Revelation 17
The Woman on the Beast
…4And the woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls. She held in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. 5On her forehead a mysterious name was written: Babylon the Great, the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth. 6I could see that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints and of the witnesses for Jesus. And I was greatly astonished at the sight of her.…
which city murdered the prophets and saints?
Jerusalem.
Rome.
Maccabees, John the Baptist, Jesus, Paul?, the apostles, countless others, destroyed Jerusalem.
Rome, The 4th beast of Dan. 7, the iron legs of Dan.2, is the woman of R ch 17.
The sea beast, earth beast, and the Antichrist are all Rome.
known and named as Sodom & Egypt.
Yes, Jerusalem in that passage is called those, but not Babylon.
In R ch 11, there is no reference to any woman or Babylon.
To try to associate these together without scriptural support would be an assumption.
the name Babylon attached to her signifies not only sin and corruption like Sodom & Egypt, but now also total desolation.
The title of the woman in R ch 17, Babylon,
Traces her origin back to the tower of Babel, where men first fell away from Jehovah worship after the cleansing flood.
She is worship the creation, not the creator.
At the time of the Roman Empire, Caesar worship was "the thing".
heres the prophecy of her (actual Babylon) destruction, just like literal Sodom & Gomorrah:
Isaiah 13
Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it. Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children. And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees’ excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
those terms of derision was applied to Jerusalem and the jews knew it (some knew).
the destruction of the great harlot Babylon was complete in 70AD.
The great harlot and Caesar worship is still with us today,
The RCC, that is, the Bishop of Rome (Caesar) is the Holy Father (god).