What if the Catholic Church is Right? reblogged

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working4christ2

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Starvation...potentially deserved.

In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.” -2 Thes 3:6-10

Your posts read as a rather negative and "glass half empty" type of person. Me thinks a little tickle torture would serve you well. :p
WHY do you suppose humanity exist?

Isaiah 43: verses 7 & 21


[h=3]Isa.43: [7] every one who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made ... & [21] the people whom I formed for myself that they might declare my praise[/h]
LIFE friends is a GOD TEST

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The Roman Catholic Church is false and they do not teach the truth. God said to confess your sins to him not man. 1John1:9 says If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and told them because of your man made traditions the Word of God has no effect. Speaking or trying to communicate with the dead is an abomination. Deutoronomy 18:10-11. In Old Testament times people who were witches, Adulterers, Gays, disobedient to parents were to be stoned, because they were disobeying God's Laws. You can't do that now because you would go to prison. The Catholics worship Mary, so that is idol worship. OnlyJesus can save you. Read Exodus 20:4-5. I am the way, the truth, and the life, No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6. 1Tim4:1 Now the Spirit says in the last days, people will depart from the faith and give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.Satan got thousands of people all over the world believing false doctrines.
Your Brother in Christ Preacha24-7

REALLY GOD said that?

. God said to confess your sins to him not man. 1John1:9 says If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and told them because of your man made traditions the Word of God has no effect. Speaking or trying to communicate with the dead is an abomination.


Never Ever; can, may or DOES
One verse, passage or teaching have the power or authority to
Invalidate, make void or override another Verse, passage or teaching:

Were this even the slightest possibility; [it’s NOT!] it would render the entire Bible useless to teach or learn Christ Faith

2Peter 1: 19-21
And we have the more firm prophetical word: whereunto you do well to attend, as to a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: [20] Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. [21] For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost.
[Douay explanation]


[20] No prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation: This shews plainly that the scriptures are not to be expounded by any one's private judgment or private spirit, because every part of the holy scriptures were written by men inspired by the Holy Ghost, and declared as such by the Church; therefore they are not to be interpreted but by the Spirit of God, which he hath left, and promised to remain with his Church to guide her in all truth to the end of the world. Some may tell us, that many of our divines interpret the scriptures: they may do so, but they do it always with a submission to the judgment of the Church, and not otherwise. End Quotes

THEN WHY MY FRIEND GOD GOD SAY AND DO THIS?

1John.5 Verses 16 to 17 "If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal.

[h=3]John.20 Verses 20 to 23"On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."[/h]And this Flows from the Use by GOD of His OT Priest in lesser ROLE of man's sin forgiveness..... Did you know t

Exodus 28:1
Take unto thee also Aaron thy brother with his sons, from among the children of Israel, that they may minister to me in the priest' s office: Aaron, Nadab, and Abiu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.

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Because they covered the collective sins of the people as a nation. Remember, no animal was perfect enough to remove sin. The blood of an animal could only cover sin (Yom Kippur means "Day of Covering". But I do not think either of these sacrificial lambs
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But the fat he shall burn upon it, as is wont to be done with the victims of peace offerings: and the priest shall pray for him, and for his sin, and it shall be forgiven him


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Leviticus 5:16
And he shall make good the damage itself which he hath done, and shall add the fifth part besides, delivering it to the priest, who shall pray for him, offering the ram, and it shall be forgiven him.
 
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No prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation: This shews plainly that the scriptures are not to be expounded by any one's private judgment or private spirit, because every part of the holy scriptures were written by men inspired by the Holy Ghost, and declared as such by the Church; therefore they are not to be interpreted but by the Spirit of God, which he hath left, and promised to remain with his Church to guide her in all truth to the end of the world.



Did you just admit that you don't have the Holy Spirit living in you, and therefore, are not saved?

There is no such thing as a "church" having the Holy Spirit. The body of Christ (believers) are the church and each have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. There is no such thing as salvation through church membership.
 
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1 John 1:7
[SUP]7 [/SUP]but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

We are cleansed of all our sins by the Blood of Jesus, even those sins we do not know or confess.

Actually the Catholic Church put the seven books in the Bible long after Jesus walked the Earth. In 367 A.D. the Catholic Church accepted all the Books in the Bible as being the Truth. The Apocrypha books we not in the Bible at that time nor were they included in the list of books accepted to be in the Bible.

You have been lied to and deceived by the Satan working4christ2.

Its simple, the two Gods you follow are Jesus and Mary. Why? Because that which you Pray to is your god. On your knees before a statue of Mary Praying the Hail Mary IS making Mary your god that you Worship as a god.

Because you Pray to Mary God will Judge you for this. Since you see nothing wrong with Praying to Mary, one has to come to the conclusion that you do not have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Without the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit you cannot receive your Salvation. If you then are not Saved, then you are not a Child of God, but instead must be a child of Satan.

Repent working4christ2, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, reject Mary, turn away from Praying to Mary before its too late and God casts you into the Lake of Fire prepared for Satan and his Angles.
 
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No prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation: This shews plainly that the scriptures are not to be expounded by any one's private judgment or private spirit, because every part of the holy scriptures were written by men inspired by the Holy Ghost, and declared as such by the Church; therefore they are not to be interpreted but by the Spirit of God, which he hath left, and promised to remain with his Church to guide her in all truth to the end of the world.


Did you just admit that you don't have the Holy Spirit living in you, and therefore, are not saved?

There is no such thing as a "church" having the Holy Spirit. The body of Christ (believers) are the church and each have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. There is no such thing as salvation through church membership.


THIS FRIEND IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF PROTESTANTS NOT BEING ABLE {READ AS BEING PROHIBITED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT} FROM RIGHT UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE

A question for YOU , that has NEVER-EVER been answered

The RCC is historically AND biblically the ONLY Church and Faith desired and founded by Jesus

It, thee CC existed some 1,500 YEARS before the Protestant Reforamtion......

WITH EVIDENCE

How

When

Where


Did this GOD protected Church and Faith lose its GODLY protection

Mt 16: 18 "
[18] And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

John 17: 17-20 "
[17] Sanctify THEM in truth. Thy word is truth. [18] As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent THEM into the world. [19] And FOR THEMdo I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth. [20] And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me;

God Bless you!

Patrick
Mt 28: 19-20 "
[19] Going therefore, teach YOU all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20]Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded YOU: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.
 
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Mt 16: 18 "[18] And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


You've been misled. All Jesus said in this verse was that he was going to build his church on the knowledge of Peter's statement that Jesus was the Son of the Living God and that the gates of hell could not prevail against that truth.

John 17: 17-20 "
[17] Sanctify THEM in truth. Thy word is truth. [18] As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent THEM into the world. [19] And FOR THEMdo I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth. [20] And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me;
What part did you not understand about verse 20? Jesus prayed the same for everyone who became a believer through the disciples' WORDS. We are all sanctified in truth once we become a true believer.


Mt 28: 19-20 "
[19] Going therefore, teach YOU all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20]Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded YOU: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.
My church doesn't teach anything different than what Jesus taught his disciples. I don't recall the disciples ever teaching their congregations to pray to Mary, to use repetitive prayer (which Jesus himself spoke against), to have their congregations call them Father (which Jesus himself also spoke against), or to pray to any dead saint.
 
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You've been misled. All Jesus said in this verse was that he was going to build his church on the knowledge of Peter's statement that Jesus was the Son of the Living God and that the gates of hell could not prevail against that truth.

What part did you not understand about verse 20? Jesus prayed the same for everyone who became a believer through the disciples' WORDS. We are all sanctified in truth once we become a true believer.



My church doesn't teach anything different than what Jesus taught his disciples. I don't recall the disciples ever teaching their congregations to pray to Mary, to use repetitive prayer (which Jesus himself spoke against), to have their congregations call them Father (which Jesus himself also spoke against), or to pray to any dead saint.
What we have here is YET ANOTHER example of P's NOT being able {being blocked by the Holy Spirit from RIGHT Understanding....

As for MARY Please READ POST #67 where I address that issue

As for repetitive prayer
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[FONT=&quot]“Forbidden by Mt.6: 7” [/FONT][FONT=&quot]SeePsalm 136: Repeats “For His Kindness endures forever”[/FONT][FONT=&quot] 26 TIMES[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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YOUR comments about verse 20
My friend your pride and eagerness to slam the CC misses the SINGULAR TENSE WORDS used here by John. Please go back and reread John 17: 17-20 with SINGULAR tense in mind at a time when the bible was authored there was ONLY the Catholic Church..... NO OTHER Christian Church would exist for nearly a THOUSAND more years {1054 Ad when the Great Easter Schism took place}

So the New Testament was AUTHORED by Catholics expressly and precisely For CATHOLICS who never even dreamed of competing "Christian" faiths.

God Bless you

Patrick
 
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I guess you missed the image of JP2 (the superman of catholics) kissing the koran on page 2, or you're cool with that?
Hmmmmmm,

So Abraham is NOT the Father of Catholics, Christians AND Muslims?

GBY
 
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What we have here is YET ANOTHER example of P's NOT being able {being blocked by the Holy Spirit from RIGHT Understanding....
I hate to break it to you, but the fact that you rely on someone else to tell you what something means says that you're the one who has a problem with understanding and doesn't have faith in your own ability to read.

As for MARY Please READ POST #67 where I address that issue
What page would that be on? I'm not wasting any more of my time on foolishness than I have to, but here's what I do know about what Jesus had to say about the role of his mother...

Matthew 12:47-50

47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.


As for repetitive prayer
Repetition
“Forbidden by Mt.6: 7” SeePsalm 136: Repeats “For His Kindness endures forever” 26 TIMES


It was written like a song, it wasn't a prayer that someone repeated to God every week.

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???? I'm not sure what this verse has to do with what we're talking about. You appear to be making less and less sense the more you try to explain yourself.


YOUR comments about verse 20
My friend your pride and eagerness to slam the CC misses the SINGULAR TENSE WORDS used here by John. Please go back and reread John 17: 17-20 with SINGULAR tense in mind at a time when the bible was authored there was ONLY the Catholic Church..... NO OTHER Christian Church would exist for nearly a THOUSAND more years {1054 Ad when the Great Easter Schism took place}

So the New Testament was AUTHORED by Catholics expressly and precisely For CATHOLICS who never even dreamed of competing "Christian" faiths.
The texts were written and preserved for all of mankind by God. You still forget that your "church" teaches traditions and doctrines that are totally in contradiction with the words of Jesus in the Bible. This is why you have no defense for what I posted earlier.
 
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How can the Catholic Church be the True Church when the Catholic Church teaches Mary was sinless?
How can the Catholic Church be the True Church when the Catholic Church teaches Mary can hear our Prayers?
How can the Catholic Church be the True Church when the Catholic Church teaches Mary can answer our Prayers?
How can the Catholic Church be the True Church when the Catholic Church teaches Mary is sitting at the right hand of God?

Mark 16:19
[SUP]19 [/SUP]So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

Jesus is sitting at the Right hand of God, not Mary. This proves today the Catholic Church has walked away from God to serve and Worship Mary.
 
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working4christ2:

Mary is the Mother of our God. By FAR the most common Marian Prayer is the Hail Mary
This discussion would be incomplete without an explanation of WHY we do what we do. To try to make the issue clear we will use the ”HAILMARY” [used in the Rosary] prayer, which is by far the most used prayer next to the LORDS PAYER, as our example of what we Catholics actually do, and why we do it.

Hail Mary, [Lk. 1:28]
Full of Grace [Lk. 1:28]
The Lord is with thee [Lk 1:27]
Blessed are you among all women [Lk 1:42]
And Blessed in the fruit of your womb: Jesus [Lk. 1;42]
Holy Mary [Lk.1: 28]
Mother of God 1:35
Pray for us sinners [our catholic petition]
Now and at the hour of our death
Amen” [I BELIEVE!]

So we discover that the “Hail Mary” prayer is SOLIDLY Biblical

This is what happens when you don't read the Bible for yourself. I read EVERY English translation of Luke 1:28 and Luke 1:35 and NONE of them state that Mary was Holy or the Mother of God.

What they do say is that the child would be Holy and be called the Son of God. Period.

While we do know that Mary was "overshadowed" by the Holy Spirit in order to conceive Jesus, she was only labeled as being highly favored by God to give birth to Jesus, but not Holy.
 
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working4christ2:


This is what happens when you don't read the Bible for yourself. I read EVERY English translation of Luke 1:28 and Luke 1:35 and NONE of them state that Mary was Holy or the Mother of God.

What they do say is that the child would be Holy and be called the Son of God. Period.

While we do know that Mary was "overshadowed" by the Holy Spirit in order to conceive Jesus, she was only labeled as being highly favored by God to give birth to Jesus, but not Holy.
What most don't know is the "Mary" of Catholicism is NOT the Mary of the Bible but the wife of Nimrod, the "queen of heaven" and I promise this is my last post on this.
 
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Face it working4christ2 you have been totally deceived into believing the lies from the Catholic Church. Your not the first person to be deceived and you will not be the last person to be deceived by their lies.

I understand where you are at. Its your Pride in being in the Catholic Church that has blinded you to the Truth. Its your Pride of being better then others because you believe the Catholic Church is the True Church.

We are not to base our walk with Jesus in our Pride. We are to walk in Truth with Jesus. Very few people in the Catholic Church have the ability to see the Truth and walk away. This is why God called His Children out of the Catholic Church in the 1500's starting with Martin Luther, John Calvin and others.

If the Catholic Church was the True Church then why did God remove all His Children from the Catholic Church?

I was born into the Catholic Church. God called me out of the Catholic Church to walk with Him. I am free in Christ. No more bondage to their lies. No more bondage to Mary.
 

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... So the New Testament was AUTHORED by Catholics expressly and precisely For CATHOLICS who never even dreamed of competing "Christian" faiths.
Wow. Let's just revise history so it fits our beliefs.
 
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working4christ2,

Do you believe in the doctrine of transubstantiation?

That at communion it is the true body and blood of Jesus?
 

mailmandan

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Thank you!

Nicely done!

However we Catholics do not believe that we can "work our way into heaven." We Do believe the the practice of Christian Charity is though critical to one's possibly meriting salvation. "LOVE one another as I have LOVED YOuU"

GBY
"Work our way into heaven/possibly meriting salvation through the practice of Christian Charity" (charitable deeds) sounds like a distinction without a difference. Either we are saved through faith (based on the merits of Christ's finished work of redemption alone) or else our deeds help merit our salvation (at least in part). Either Christ did it all or else we did some of it. You can't have it both ways.
 
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Psa 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
 

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While I appreciate you right to your opinion, this SITE is GROSSLY lacking in evidence, in specifics. ANYONE can issue accusations; backing it uo though seems to be quite a different issue.

PLEASE, share facts and I will do the same

GBY
Did you watch the video from post #52? Also, below is a small sample of pictures showing the link between Babylonian Paganism and the Roman Catholic religion.