What if you die before water baptism?

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No, But he just said a person who commits a sin will not get to heaven.

so I asked him if he is without sin..

do you have a problem with that?
now your excusing yourself again


If you don't want him to be in sin,.why ask him if he is without sin

When Quite clearly his suggestion was he was not wanting somebody to carry on in sin for denying God's word.

Just like you saying, people who say you have to be water baptised to be saved is commiting blasphemy.

Well I'm saying you have to be water baptised to be saved.

So basically your also calling the apostles blasphemers.
 

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now your excusing yourself again


If you don't want him to be in sin,.why ask him if he is without sin

When Quite clearly his suggestion was he was not wanting somebody to carry on in sin for denying God's word.

Just like you saying, people who say you have to be water baptised to be saved is commiting blasphemy.

Well I'm saying you have to be water baptised to be saved.

So basically your also calling the apostles blasphemers.
You just once again showing how you have no ability to converse with anyone or understand them

He said flat out that those who have an opportunity to get baptized and do not. will have a HOT eternity (hell)

so i asked him if he was without sin himself.. And if he is not (which I am sure he will say he is not) I will ask why he will not be in hell himself.

And if you believe you have to be water baptized to be saved, You are committing blasphemy. You are telling the world. that a man must do the job of the HS. and baptist you in water, not in Christ.

And your preaching a works based gospel. which is no gospel at all..
 
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You just once again showing how you have no ability to converse with anyone or understand them

He said flat out that those who have an opportunity to get baptized and do not. will have a HOT eternity (hell)

so i asked him if he was without sin himself.. And if he is not (which I am sure he will say he is not) I will ask why he will not be in hell himself.

And if you believe you have to be water baptized to be saved, You are committing blasphemy. You are telling the world. that a man must do the job of the HS. and baptist you in water, not in Christ.

And your preaching a works based gospel. which is no gospel at all..
you sir are the blasphemer 😊
 
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But those that have opportunity to get baptized and refuse to do so are being disobedient to the Lord's command

The afterlife for this will be quite warm and very unpleasant!
Those who have the opportunity and don't @Everlasting-Grace are those who deny God, notice he said those who have opportunity.


This Sin is unbelief. There not saved until there baptized.

If there refusing to be baptised with unbelief then there deliberately denying God. If there given opportunity, Such practice is sin unbelief and denying.


I don't know if they could go to hell

But I know the seed can go into a person and be removed before they've been saved.

Because the wages for sin is death.

The parable in luke says the word of God is the seed, that was in a man for a.while who experienced joy, but did not conform, so the seed was removed.

Well you have to be baptised to be saved.

Bible says so

So once again your attitude doesn't wash with me 😊
 

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Those who have the opportunity and don't @Everlasting-Grace are those who deny God, notice he said those who have opportunity.


This Sin is unbelief. There not saved until there baptized.

If there refusing to be baptised with unbelief then there deliberately denying God. If there given opportunity, Such practice is sin unbelief and denying.


I don't know if they could go to hell

But I know the seed can go into a person and be removed before they've been saved.

Because the wages for sin is death.

The parable in luke says the word of God is the seed, that was in a man for a.while who experienced joy, but did not conform, so the seed was removed.

Well you have to be baptised to be saved.

Bible says so

So once again your attitude doesn't wash with me 😊
I believed and asked for Gods salvation and was baptized by his spirit a year before I did the work of water baptism.

Keep boasting of saving yourself. Not of works lest anyone should boast..
 
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I believed and asked for Gods salvation and was baptized by his spirit a year before I did the work of water baptism.

Keep boasting of saving yourself. Not of works lest anyone should boast..
You keep making excuses for yourself.

Why did you get baptised if you think it's not necessary
 

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You keep making excuses for yourself.

Why did you get baptised if you think it's not necessary
If i thought it was necessary, I would have not it to get saved, not after I was saved.

I did it because God commanded it, Like he commands us to do a lot of things. When you trust someone, you tend to do what they ask. And not ignore them.

Making excuses?

Dude whatever
 
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If i thought it was necessary, I would have not it to get saved, not after I was saved.

I did it because God commanded it, Like he commands us to do a lot of things. When you trust someone, you tend to do what they ask. And not ignore them.

Making excuses?

Dude whatever
I asked you for am explanation not your sarky pride.

You did it because the lord commanded you to do it

Why did you think it was necessary to get baptised after the lord commanded you.
 

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I asked you for am explanation not your sarky pride.

You did it because the lord commanded you to do it

Why did you think it was necessary to get baptised after the lord commanded you.
Why do I go to church, pray without ceasing, assemble together give money

because. Trust God.

Not to get saved
 
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Ah, the old change the subject routine! clueless-doh.gif




Yeah, so what if people are being disobedient to the Lord - it's no big deal, right /sARCASM rolleyes.gif



No, But he just said a person who commits a sin will not get to heaven.

so I asked him if he is without sin..

do you have a problem with that?

Do you know the Bible contains instructions on what to do IF... you sin and if one does not follow these instruction they are NOT cleansed of their sin. Do you know what God's Word says about this? Apparently not.



And if you believe you have to be water baptized to be saved, You are committing blasphemy.

You must be one of them cherry pickers who picks and chooses which portions of God's Word they like and throw the rest out treating God's Word like a Sunday afternoon buffet line down at the cafeteria
 

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Ah, the old change the subject routine! View attachment 261253
Nope. Just asked a question. Can you answer?



Yeah, so what if people are being disobedient to the Lord - it's no big deal, right /sARCASM View attachment 261255
Well no one is perfect. So i guess it depends on how you look at it.



Do you know the Bible contains instructions on what to do IF... you sin and if one does not follow these instruction they are NOT cleansed of their sin. Do you know what God's Word says about this? Apparently not.
yeah I do. He who believes is not condemned,He who does not believe is condemned already.

The blood of christ washes you from all sin. Not the water in your churches bathtub


You must be one of them cherry pickers who picks and chooses which portions of God's Word they like and throw the rest out treating God's Word like a Sunday afternoon buffet line down at the cafeteria
Throw the rest out?

Yeah, The jews tried to teach their works salvation also. Paul spent half the NT trying to correct them. Sadly. People today make the same mistake.
 
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who said it was necessary?
Those that can read, that love the Lord... accept His command in His Word to get baptized. Kapeesh? clueless-scratching.gif

Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:37.38
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Colossians 2:11-13
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
I'm not saying one does not first repent, believe, and confess Jesus as their Lord and Savior. This is of course the first thing one does for initial salvation. Without doing this, one can get dunked in the water all they want and that does not make them saved.
 

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Those that can read, that love the Lord... accept His command in His Word to get baptized. Kapeesh? View attachment 261273

Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:37.38
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Colossians 2:11-13
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
I'm not saying one does not first repent, believe, and confess Jesus as their Lord and Savior. This is of course the first thing one does for initial salvation. Without doing this, one can get dunked in the water all they want and that does not make them saved.
I was baptized By God the holy spirit into Christ (gal 3: 26 with romans 6:3) into his death (romans 6: 3) and into his body (1 Cor 12: 13)

I was baptized into water a year later, in obedience to Gods command, that as a new disciple, I should be baptized.

First thing I would suggest is to look up with the word baptizo means (it is not an english word) then learn how to interpret properly.
 
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I was baptized By God the holy spirit into Christ (gal 3: 26 with romans 6:3) into his death (romans 6: 3) and into his body (1 Cor 12: 13)

I was baptized into water a year later, in obedience to Gods command, that as a new disciple, I should be baptized.

First thing I would suggest is to look up with the word baptizo means (it is not an english word) then learn how to interpret properly.
this is your personal experience, and it would be a joke to use your personal experience as to how people are saved,

Have a good day sir