What Is the meaning of BY faith and THROUGH faith?
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The Jews were saved BY Grace and the gentiles were saved by Grace THROUGH faith, Is there a difference?
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[/FONT]For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is One God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.…
No difference, for salvation was always by grace through faith.. And not by law keeping
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Habakkuk 2:4, "Behold the proud, his soul is not right in him; but the just will live by faith."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 11:6, “But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to Yah has to believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who earnestly seek Him.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 11, By belief they performed an action;[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:1, "And belief is the substance of what is expected, the proof of what is not seen.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:4, "By belief, Heḇel offered to Yah a greater slaughter offering than Qayin, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, Yah witnessing of his gifts. And through it, having died, he still speaks.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:5, "By belief, Ḥanoḵ was translated so as not to see death, “and was not found because Yah had translated him.” (Gen 5:24) For before his translation he obtained witness, that he pleased Yah.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:6, "But without belief it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to Yah has to believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who earnestly seek Him.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:7, "By belief, Noaḥ, having been warned of what was yet unseen, having feared, prepared an ark to save his house, through which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to belief.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:8, "By belief, Aḇraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he was about to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.11:9, "By belief, he sojourned in the land of promise as a stranger, dwelling in tents with Yitsḥaq and Ya‛aqoḇ, the heirs with him of the same promise,"11:10, "for he was looking for the city having foundations, whose builder and maker is Yah.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:11, "By belief also, Sarah herself was enabled to conceive seed, and she bore a child when she was past the normal age, because she deemed Him trustworthy who had promised.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:17, "By belief, Aḇraham, when he was tried, offered up Yitsḥaq, and he who had received the promises offered up his only brought-forth son,[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:20, "By belief, Yitsḥaq blessed Ya‛aqoḇ and Ěsaw concerning that which was to come.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:21, "By belief, Ya‛aqoḇ, when he was dying, blessed each of the sons of Yosĕph, and did reverence on the top of his staff.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:22, "By belief, Yosĕph, when he was dying, made mention of the outgoing of the children of Yisra’ĕl, and gave orders concerning his bones.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:23, "By belief, Mosheh, having been born, was hidden three months by his parents, because they saw he was a comely child, and were not afraid of the sovereign’s command. (Exo 2:2) [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:24, "By belief, Mosheh, having become great, refused to be called the son of the daughter of Pharaoh,"11:25, "choosing rather to be afflicted with the people of Yah than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a time,"11:26, "deeming the reproach of Messiah greater riches than the treasures in Mitsrayim, for he was looking to the reward.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:27, "By belief, he left Mitsrayim, not fearing the wrath of the sovereign, for he was steadfast, as seeing Him who is invisible.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:28, "By belief, he performed the Pĕsaḥ and the sprinkling of blood, lest he who destroyed the first-born should touch them.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:29, "By belief, they passed through the Red Sea as by dry land, and when the Mitsrites tried it, they were drowned.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:30, "By belief, the walls of Yeriḥo fell, having been surrounded for seven days.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:31, "By belief, Raḥaḇ the whore did not perish with those who did not believe, having received the spies with peace.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:33, "who through belief, overcame reigns, worked righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,"11:34, "quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, became mighty in battle, put foreign armies to flight."11:35, "Women received back their dead by resurrection. And others were tortured, not accepting release, to obtain a better resurrection."11:36, "And others had trial of mockings and floggings and more, of chains and imprisonment."11:37, "They were stoned, they were tried, they were sawn in two, they were slain with the sword. They went about in sheepskins, in goatskins, being in need, afflicted, mistreated,”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 11:6, “But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to Yah has to believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who earnestly seek Him.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 11, By belief they performed an action;[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:1, "And belief is the substance of what is expected, the proof of what is not seen.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:4, "By belief, Heḇel offered to Yah a greater slaughter offering than Qayin, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, Yah witnessing of his gifts. And through it, having died, he still speaks.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:5, "By belief, Ḥanoḵ was translated so as not to see death, “and was not found because Yah had translated him.” (Gen 5:24) For before his translation he obtained witness, that he pleased Yah.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:6, "But without belief it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to Yah has to believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who earnestly seek Him.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:7, "By belief, Noaḥ, having been warned of what was yet unseen, having feared, prepared an ark to save his house, through which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to belief.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:8, "By belief, Aḇraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he was about to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.11:9, "By belief, he sojourned in the land of promise as a stranger, dwelling in tents with Yitsḥaq and Ya‛aqoḇ, the heirs with him of the same promise,"11:10, "for he was looking for the city having foundations, whose builder and maker is Yah.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:11, "By belief also, Sarah herself was enabled to conceive seed, and she bore a child when she was past the normal age, because she deemed Him trustworthy who had promised.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:17, "By belief, Aḇraham, when he was tried, offered up Yitsḥaq, and he who had received the promises offered up his only brought-forth son,[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:20, "By belief, Yitsḥaq blessed Ya‛aqoḇ and Ěsaw concerning that which was to come.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:21, "By belief, Ya‛aqoḇ, when he was dying, blessed each of the sons of Yosĕph, and did reverence on the top of his staff.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:22, "By belief, Yosĕph, when he was dying, made mention of the outgoing of the children of Yisra’ĕl, and gave orders concerning his bones.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:23, "By belief, Mosheh, having been born, was hidden three months by his parents, because they saw he was a comely child, and were not afraid of the sovereign’s command. (Exo 2:2) [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:24, "By belief, Mosheh, having become great, refused to be called the son of the daughter of Pharaoh,"11:25, "choosing rather to be afflicted with the people of Yah than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a time,"11:26, "deeming the reproach of Messiah greater riches than the treasures in Mitsrayim, for he was looking to the reward.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:27, "By belief, he left Mitsrayim, not fearing the wrath of the sovereign, for he was steadfast, as seeing Him who is invisible.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:28, "By belief, he performed the Pĕsaḥ and the sprinkling of blood, lest he who destroyed the first-born should touch them.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:29, "By belief, they passed through the Red Sea as by dry land, and when the Mitsrites tried it, they were drowned.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:30, "By belief, the walls of Yeriḥo fell, having been surrounded for seven days.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:31, "By belief, Raḥaḇ the whore did not perish with those who did not believe, having received the spies with peace.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]11:33, "who through belief, overcame reigns, worked righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,"11:34, "quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, became mighty in battle, put foreign armies to flight."11:35, "Women received back their dead by resurrection. And others were tortured, not accepting release, to obtain a better resurrection."11:36, "And others had trial of mockings and floggings and more, of chains and imprisonment."11:37, "They were stoned, they were tried, they were sawn in two, they were slain with the sword. They went about in sheepskins, in goatskins, being in need, afflicted, mistreated,”[/FONT]
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Christians should always take a moment to ask themselves "Why is it that salvation is exclusively by grace through faith? And faith in whom and in what?"
1. The fundamental Bible principle is that it is impossible to please God without faith (Hebrews 11:6), and that He does exist without the shadow of a doubt.
2. Faith is absolute trust in God, in Christ, and in the Bible, which means believing God in all things, and acting upon that faith without doubting the outcome.
3. Faith also believes that God responds to faith -- that He a a rewarded of those who diligently seek Him (Heb 11:6).
4. Faith is never in faith but in the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ -- that He is God manifest in the flesh, therefore fully equipped and qualified to be the Savior of the world.
5. Faith is also the absolute assurance that Christ died for MY PERSONAL SINS according to the Scriptures, and rose again for MY PERSONAL JUSTIFICATION according to the Scriptures.
6. Faith means believing that if I turn from my sins and idols, and turn to Christ wholeheartedly, receiving Him as my Lord and Savior in complete submission, that is sufficient for God.
7. Faith also means that because Christ is ALL SUFFICIENT, I must believe that He has given me the gift of eternal life based upon what He accomplished in His death, burial, and resurrection, not upon my worthiness or unworthiness, or my good works, or my own righteousness.
1. The fundamental Bible principle is that it is impossible to please God without faith (Hebrews 11:6), and that He does exist without the shadow of a doubt.
2. Faith is absolute trust in God, in Christ, and in the Bible, which means believing God in all things, and acting upon that faith without doubting the outcome.
3. Faith also believes that God responds to faith -- that He a a rewarded of those who diligently seek Him (Heb 11:6).
4. Faith is never in faith but in the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ -- that He is God manifest in the flesh, therefore fully equipped and qualified to be the Savior of the world.
5. Faith is also the absolute assurance that Christ died for MY PERSONAL SINS according to the Scriptures, and rose again for MY PERSONAL JUSTIFICATION according to the Scriptures.
6. Faith means believing that if I turn from my sins and idols, and turn to Christ wholeheartedly, receiving Him as my Lord and Savior in complete submission, that is sufficient for God.
7. Faith also means that because Christ is ALL SUFFICIENT, I must believe that He has given me the gift of eternal life based upon what He accomplished in His death, burial, and resurrection, not upon my worthiness or unworthiness, or my good works, or my own righteousness.
The Jews were saved BY Grace and the gentiles were saved by Grace THROUGH faith, Is there a difference?
Yes., there is a MAJOR difference. We can't ignore the covenants in the Bible and say everyone was saved the same and God dealt with everyone the same as He does today. Covenants are serious binding agreements with promises and OBLIGATIONS.
The obligations in the old covenant were based on man's obedience. But man failed all the time so they ALWAYS needed a blood sacrifice. Man was blessed when he did good and not blessed when he missed the mark. In the old covenant people who sinned had to pay., had to be punished and often got zapped by God.
People had to run and make that blood sacrifice quick to get right again so that the payment for their sin was not between them and God. Man always had to have some payment some kind of blood sacrifice. So much so that it was scheduled each day month and year.
The night before Jesus died He said this was a new covenant in His blood. Luke 22:20 and so the new covenant came in as soon as He died and the veil was "rent in two" there no longer being a separation between man and God. Jesus said it was finished., no more sacrifice for sins! The requirement now under the new covenant of Jesus blood is "faith" in Him and what He did... not what we do.
This is MAJOR and everything changed at the cross. Yet how many Christians are still living under the spirit of the law? For years as a Catholic I used to run (not walk) to the confessional so the priest could give me penance and clear my slate so I could get back in God's good graces. That is exactly the same as what the old covenant required except I didn't kill a goat or sheep or cow. The payment or punishment was still in effect for me.
Sounds silly right? But even today so many Christians still live this way. And they are not Catholics.
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Hi Nehemiah,
You post brought this to my mind, I hope you don't mind me sharing.
Jesus said: Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Paul agrees with this in:
Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they (ALL) should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
So those "Works" that are required for repentance, are they "our works" or are they Works God created for man?
It seems the Bible teaches that repentance by the very definition, means to change from one lifestyle or action to another lifestyle or action.
The scriptures teach in both Old and New Testaments that we are to repent (the action or work of change) Turn to God, which is another action required on our part.
Matt. 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
So What will we learn when we Seek His Righteousness? What exactly is His Righteousness?
Psalms 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
Now I understand that man is not justified by the temporary Levitical Priesthood sacrificial "Works of the Law" for remission of sins Paul spoke of that the Jews and their preachers, the Pharisees, were still pushing.
But it seems clear that we are to "change" from our lawless ways(Sin), to God's Righteousness, (not mans) and to "Do Works" that are "worthy" as it is written.
Jesus indicated this truth in:
Matt. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
So these acknowledged Jesus and may have claimed repentance. But Jesus' Grace did not save them. Why?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
This is in total agreement with Paul and what ee said he preached. These people may have repented, but they didn't "turn to God" and they didn't "Bring Works Worthy of Repentance." and Jesus and Paul taught.
They brought forth works as do we all. But their works didn't represent to God the "Change" He requires.
Also, I believe it was the Life of Jesus(His Blood) that qualified Him to offer His life for the sins I committed. Not His death.
I think there is a huge deception about "works" and salvation. satan used God's Words to deceive Eve into bringing forth "Her thoughts and works" instead of the righteousness of God He created for her.
I like many of your posts and I don't mean to be critical at all. I hope you don't take this post wrong.
You post brought this to my mind, I hope you don't mind me sharing.
Jesus said: Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Paul agrees with this in:
Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they (ALL) should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
So those "Works" that are required for repentance, are they "our works" or are they Works God created for man?
It seems the Bible teaches that repentance by the very definition, means to change from one lifestyle or action to another lifestyle or action.
The scriptures teach in both Old and New Testaments that we are to repent (the action or work of change) Turn to God, which is another action required on our part.
Matt. 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
So What will we learn when we Seek His Righteousness? What exactly is His Righteousness?
Psalms 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
Now I understand that man is not justified by the temporary Levitical Priesthood sacrificial "Works of the Law" for remission of sins Paul spoke of that the Jews and their preachers, the Pharisees, were still pushing.
But it seems clear that we are to "change" from our lawless ways(Sin), to God's Righteousness, (not mans) and to "Do Works" that are "worthy" as it is written.
Jesus indicated this truth in:
Matt. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
So these acknowledged Jesus and may have claimed repentance. But Jesus' Grace did not save them. Why?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
This is in total agreement with Paul and what ee said he preached. These people may have repented, but they didn't "turn to God" and they didn't "Bring Works Worthy of Repentance." and Jesus and Paul taught.
They brought forth works as do we all. But their works didn't represent to God the "Change" He requires.
Also, I believe it was the Life of Jesus(His Blood) that qualified Him to offer His life for the sins I committed. Not His death.
I think there is a huge deception about "works" and salvation. satan used God's Words to deceive Eve into bringing forth "Her thoughts and works" instead of the righteousness of God He created for her.
I like many of your posts and I don't mean to be critical at all. I hope you don't take this post wrong.
Please explain in light of how the requirements of the law were; obedience and sacrifice and a stringent dedication to obeying the laws and never breaking them. When they failed (and they always did) many got killed and or zapped with sickness and disease like leprosy or early death?
So payment for sin had to be made and if not by death by some sickness or some major loss so as to make sure the law was followed and satisfied else God would not be upholding His part of the covenant making sure payment was made. No sin went un-paid for. Sins were held against them. Sins were not taken as far as the east is from the west. He showed lots of mercy and showed grace but not like today under the covenant of grace with the law abolished.
Also., the most MAJOR difference is each one of us today are born again and given the Holy Spirit to live in us and abide in us never to leave us. There was no such promise in the old covenant.
What kind of staying enduring power did those old covenant saints have aside from making sure they RAN/SPRINTED/MADE HAST and confessed and got a heifer before another moment went by and their sin was not paid for? I can picture many of us preferring to not leave the house for fear we would be even MORE tempted to sin than the norm. How could any of them have endured all alone like that?
If people died., how could they learn? If we were under the law today., I dare say most would be zapped in the pew for lack of obedience. So can you explain EG how if we are all saved the same., how come they had no Holy Spirit OR new birth., had to be punished and even die as part of the old covenant they were in back then., But today we are not? Is that fair? Is that even possible? I don't think so but I'm open to hearing your views.
Also., I know many died IN FAITH waiting for the promises like David., but what does that mean? How would you or I fare in such a covenant? Not all of them had the Holy Spirit come upon them like David did and even David prayed that the Holy Spirit would not be taken from him. David knew the power working in him. But what about the average guys and woman back then? People who would most likely be like us.
Also., if payment had to be made back then (and it did) why didn't Christ's coming sacrifice cover that for them? See how this is a bit confusing?
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Even paul spoke of a sin unto death, People sinning and losing their life for it is the same today. The difference is we do not (well are not forced to) stone people who do I certain sins.
But if I get drunk, and go try to drive and die in a car crash, I suffered the sin unto death, If I live, then God be praised. But I am still guilty
The only salvic covenant was the abrahamic covenant, The jewish law had no bearing on anyone’s salvation. Only condemnation.
The people who died not having seen it, Was those who died not knowing what God was going to do but wishing they had a chance to see. As jesus said, they waited for that day.
The Jews were saved BY Grace and the gentiles were saved by Grace THROUGH faith, Is there a difference?
Grace is the Noun faith or belief is the verb you receive grace by or through faith in Jesus Christ. Grace is what is given to you by God and you apply the faith you have in the work of the Cross .
Brother., you need to answer better than that. The part about you being guilty is yes at least on this side of heaven but Jesus already paid for that sin and it is not held to a believers account since our account is 100% paid for IN FULL. There remains no more sacrifice for our sins., there is no more atonement we can make., no more good can be done to outweigh the dept of killing yourself as a drunk or someone else while you were drunk.
That is not a sin unto death coming from God. It's a sin of natural cause and effect here on earth. A drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and in his impairment kills someone. God didn't cause that death., the drunk did. God isn't causing that person to "pay" It's the work of a just society is doing that as best as they can.
Also., an explanation of what a "sin unto death" means would be helpful.
Hello Nehemiah:
That Is a very good question my friend
IMO,salvation Is exclusively by grace through faith because man could not be perfect to GOD without help.GOD loves righteousness and GOD will only accept perfection.Man could not be righteous In his own strength because of the weakness of his flesh and could only be righteous to GOD by being a member In the body of CHRIST.
GOD sent HIS WORD to earth because of mercy for us to be an atoning sacrifice for man fulfilling the law perfectly and satisfying the demand of the law.
For GOD so loved the world that HE sent HIS WORD to earth manifested In the flesh so that whosoever believed In HIM would not perish but have EVERLasting LIFE.
That Is a very good question my friend
IMO,salvation Is exclusively by grace through faith because man could not be perfect to GOD without help.GOD loves righteousness and GOD will only accept perfection.Man could not be righteous In his own strength because of the weakness of his flesh and could only be righteous to GOD by being a member In the body of CHRIST.
GOD sent HIS WORD to earth because of mercy for us to be an atoning sacrifice for man fulfilling the law perfectly and satisfying the demand of the law.
For GOD so loved the world that HE sent HIS WORD to earth manifested In the flesh so that whosoever believed In HIM would not perish but have EVERLasting LIFE.
In the English language, by is a preposition used to show direct agency
through, in this sense, is a preposition used to show indirect agency.
The nail was pounded into the board BY a man, THROUGH use of a hammer.
The man did the pounding. He used a hammer to pound with.
God saves us by GRACE. The GRACE by which God saves us comes to us THROURH the faith God gives us.
through, in this sense, is a preposition used to show indirect agency.
The nail was pounded into the board BY a man, THROUGH use of a hammer.
The man did the pounding. He used a hammer to pound with.
God saves us by GRACE. The GRACE by which God saves us comes to us THROURH the faith God gives us.
I think I understand what you are saying,we have to choose to believe which GOD has put In everyone to know that there Is a GOD and where we are weak HE is strong.
If we have faith as much as a mustard seed,we can move mountains.
If we have faith as much as a mustard seed,we can move mountains.
We have to choose to believe AND GOD has put In everyone to know that there Is a GOD and where we are weak HE is strong.
Studyman,
I fully understand and agree that you are building on saving faith and that repentance is the opposite side of the same coin. Because of the title of the thread, it seemed right to focus a little on faith.
Good question and the answer is in Scripture. They are our works -- primarily making restitution and changing our attitudes.
John the Baptist said: Bring forth therefore fruits meet [fitting] for repentance...And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then? He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise. Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do? And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you. And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages. (Mt 3:8; Lk 3:10-14)
Exactly.
God's righteousness and Christ's righteousness are summed up in the two greatest commandments. That is why they can only be obeyed in the power of the Spirit -- walking in the Spirit.
Whatever is done in faith, by the power of the Spirit, and through application of the Law of Christ is worthy to God.
It went beyond that. There are many professing Christians doing good works who have not truly been regenerated -- born again. So they do not know Christ "experientially" and are not known by Him. Unless He is dwelling within, they cannot truly be accepted in the Beloved.
If we want to be totally biblical it was (a) His perfect life, (b) the total offering of Christ as a whole burnt offering (body, soul, and spirit), (c) His shed blood, (d) His unimaginable sufferings and humiliation, and (e) His being "forsaken" by His Father during those three dark hours, which were all taken into account by God the Father. Every one of the sacrifices in the OT + the Passover sacrifice of the lamb, were all a part of the finished work of Christ. "He made Himself AN OFFERING for sin. Only God and Christ understand the full meaning of the "Passion" of Christ. We simply accept the benefits derived from that. And you are right -- His death and His blood cannot be interchanged (as some people claim).
I fully understand and agree that you are building on saving faith and that repentance is the opposite side of the same coin. Because of the title of the thread, it seemed right to focus a little on faith.
Good question and the answer is in Scripture. They are our works -- primarily making restitution and changing our attitudes.
John the Baptist said: Bring forth therefore fruits meet [fitting] for repentance...And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then? He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise. Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do? And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you. And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages. (Mt 3:8; Lk 3:10-14)
Exactly.
God's righteousness and Christ's righteousness are summed up in the two greatest commandments. That is why they can only be obeyed in the power of the Spirit -- walking in the Spirit.
Whatever is done in faith, by the power of the Spirit, and through application of the Law of Christ is worthy to God.
It went beyond that. There are many professing Christians doing good works who have not truly been regenerated -- born again. So they do not know Christ "experientially" and are not known by Him. Unless He is dwelling within, they cannot truly be accepted in the Beloved.
If we want to be totally biblical it was (a) His perfect life, (b) the total offering of Christ as a whole burnt offering (body, soul, and spirit), (c) His shed blood, (d) His unimaginable sufferings and humiliation, and (e) His being "forsaken" by His Father during those three dark hours, which were all taken into account by God the Father. Every one of the sacrifices in the OT + the Passover sacrifice of the lamb, were all a part of the finished work of Christ. "He made Himself AN OFFERING for sin. Only God and Christ understand the full meaning of the "Passion" of Christ. We simply accept the benefits derived from that. And you are right -- His death and His blood cannot be interchanged (as some people claim).
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i am not sure what a person dieing because of sin has to do with salvation.
Again, If I drink and get in a car and because of that sin die, I have sinned the sin unto death, If I do a drug, and die because of it the same, if I commit sexual sin and die of a STD, then I have sinned unto death. If I do the same thing and get lucky and do not die. I have sinned, but for some reason did not die.
Again, If I drink and get in a car and because of that sin die, I have sinned the sin unto death, If I do a drug, and die because of it the same, if I commit sexual sin and die of a STD, then I have sinned unto death. If I do the same thing and get lucky and do not die. I have sinned, but for some reason did not die.
Well, it's an opportunity to share that God is not sending us sickness and death like He did back in the OT when believers didn't confess a sin., or even when they did some believe God will still punish them. Did you read my post? I'll repost it. I know it's long but it has some good questions and considerations we all have considered and some are considering and some are yet to consider. I'll repost it here below. Anyone can answer as I'm curious who believes God is zapping His people in the pews for their unconfessed sin or their sin that they even confessed. Thanks.