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Matt 22
[SUP]34 [/SUP]But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.

[SUP]35 [/SUP]Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

[SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
And those that are born again of God by God a gift from God through the cross, have the Love of god spreaqd abroad in their whole new being that started at the heart transplant from God by Faith in God
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Heaven indeed is a real place bt its not our destination? Be caught up in the air? Air is not heaven ? 2 nd point wen Jesus returns were are his feet going to land? Mount of olives? We're is mount of olives? Correct? We will be forever with him? We're?
 
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Forgive me all on this thread for diverting a second? If there is an Israeli Jewish person actually living in the holy land today, or anyone with truthful legal status on here could help me with this question I would much appreciate it? No opinions please or hearsay I need the actual legal status on this one? Maybe 2 questions lol , how many books of the Old Testament do the Jewish people follow and believe. And are any of the Old Testament books banned in Israel ? Many thanks to whomever may know and replies , strictly no hearsay or guessing I need the facts legally today in modern israel....
 
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Giving our lives to God as a LIVING Sacrifice is very serious. And can not be covered over lightly by saying ,it is Jesus doing the living in me. and I just go in neutral. Gal. 2:20 tells more of our living for God than Christ living thru me His life. NO WAY , Paul said ,: "the life which I live in the flesh(MY BODY)I live by faith in the Son of God, " We live in our bodies the holy life God has planned for us to live for His glory. this is a :LIVING SACrifice" using our minds hands feet, etc, all to the glory of God as we trust God to work in us to do His good will ,God helps us, inpowers us, but we do the living . The new birth experience is death to our old fleshly sinful nature so now we can live with our new nature a life pleasing to God. But , we still has the old sinful nation in us ;So we have to keep putting it to death. we need to bear our spiritual cross ,dying to sin each moment. Repentance is an hourly way of life; repent, trust and obey is the true Christian life. love to all, Hoffco
 

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Forgive me all on this thread for diverting a second? If there is an Israeli Jewish person actually living in the holy land today, or anyone with truthful legal status on here could help me with this question I would much appreciate it? No opinions please or hearsay I need the actual legal status on this one? Maybe 2 questions lol , how many books of the Old Testament do the Jewish people follow and believe. And are any of the Old Testament books banned in Israel ? Many thanks to whomever may know and replies , strictly no hearsay or guessing I need the facts legally today in modern israel....
Why is Daniel Not a Prophet?

I am often asked why the Book of Daniel is included in the Writings section of the Tanakh instead of the Prophets section. Wasn't Daniel a prophet? Weren't his visions of the future true?

According to Judaism, Daniel is not one of the 55 prophets. His writings include visions of the future, which we believe to be true; however, his mission was not that of a prophet. His visions of the future were never intended to be proclaimed to the people; they were designed to be written down for future generations. Thus, they are Writings, not Prophecies, and are classified accordingly.

Judaism 101: Prophets and Prophecy

This is what the Talmud means when it proclaims that “a sage is superior to a prophet.”14 For the sage, through ruach ha-kodesh, can be privy to levels of insight that surpass that which the prophets are able to envision tangibly. And while the sage grasps only facts, nevertheless it is divinely inspired knowledge of the facts.15

The levels of prophetic revelation experienced throughout a prophet’s lifetime are, however, not static. The same prophet can at times experience different levels of prophecy, ruach ha-kodesh, or both.16 Therefore, even if Daniel had attained the level of prophecy at one point in his life,17 it was not in relation to the book of Daniel, which is therefore still considered part of the Ketuvim, the Writings.

Why Isn’t the Book of Daniel Part of the Prophets? - The difference between divine inspiration and prophecy - Questions & Answers
 
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Thank you very much for the clarity my friend I'm most grateful for the information,though I hold a very different view this is not the time nor forum, but your answer confirms an awful lot for me so that alone I'm thankful? Kevin this message is for zone
 
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Giving our lives to God as a LIVING Sacrifice is very serious. And can not be covered over lightly by saying ,it is Jesus doing the living in me. and I just go in neutral. Gal. 2:20 tells more of our living for God than Christ living thru me His life. NO WAY , Paul said ,: "the life which I live in the flesh(MY BODY)I live by faith in the Son of God, " We live in our bodies the holy life God has planned for us to live for His glory. this is a :LIVING SACrifice" using our minds hands feet, etc, all to the glory of God as we trust God to work in us to do His good will ,God helps us, inpowers us, but we do the living . The new birth experience is death to our old fleshly sinful nature so now we can live with our new nature a life pleasing to God. But , we still has the old sinful nation in us ;So we have to keep putting it to death. we need to bear our spiritual cross ,dying to sin each moment. Repentance is an hourly way of life; repent, trust and obey is the true Christian life. love to all, Hoffco
Very well said brother! As I diminish, fill in the vacancies with your Holy Spirit!! AMEN We should all be praying to die to ourselves and live in Christ. It's like; "Do in me what I can't do myself." We need a High Priest to put the pieces on the altar and baptize us with fire and the Holy Spirit.
 
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Well its clear to me now after so much comment by many and the regulars that the time has come for me to withdraw from the thread there are many classes of believers on here ex Catholics Jewish people,new testament believers among a few , but rather than argue constantly and endlessly sometimes healthily, other times not, I've decided to start a new thread regards prophecy and were are we really in time right now? What's ahead, and I intend join another website and partake thier , I want to also say god is much bigger than man knows much bigger than our differences and I believe everyone is entitled to thier beliefs no matter what I think or others? But I also believe we need as Christians have a duty to treat every word of god with great care and attention to detail, the revelation of gods word to man came through the man Jesus Christ planned many eons ago by both the father and the son (the word) and this is often not the case here I'm really sad to say many thanks to all who've enjoyed and liked wat I've said and much love to those who disagree and even those who think I'm a few currants short of a fruitcake?, but I know who has shown me these things, and it weren't no man? First time I've been on thread for such as 2/3wks thank you all for all I've gleaned, you know who you are?? Psalm 150 v6 signing off then now friends I wish for you all whatever you wish for yourselves..... WELSHMAN
 
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Behold, a day is coming for the Lord, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in your midst. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women raped. Half of the city shall go out into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations as when he fights on a day of battle. On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives that lies before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from east to west by a very wide valley, so that one half of the Mount shall move northward, and the other half southward. And you shall flee to the valley of my mountains, for the valley of the mountains shall reach to Azal. And you shall flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him. ...


Joel 3:2 ESV / 18 helpful votes


I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. And I will enter into judgment with them there, on behalf of my people and my heritage Israel, because they have scattered them among the nations and have divided up my land,


Ezekiel 37:22 ESV / 18 helpful votes


And I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over them all, and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms.


Daniel 12:1 ESV / 11 helpful votes


“At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.


Revelation 12:1-17 ESV / 10 helpful votes


And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it. She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, ...


Matthew 24:1-51 ESV / 10 helpful votes


Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?” And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. ...


Daniel 11:39-40 ESV / 8 helpful votes


He shall deal with the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign god. Those who acknowledge him he shall load with honor. He shall make them rulers over many and shall divide the land for a price. “At the time of the end, the king of the south shall attack him, but the king of the north shall rush upon him like a whirlwind, with chariots and horsemen, and with many ships. And he shall come into countries and shall overflow and pass through.


Revelation 13:1-18 ESV / 7 helpful votes


And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast. And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. ...


1 Corinthians 4:5 ESV / 7 helpful votes


Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God.


Isaiah 40:1-31 ESV / 7 helpful votes


Comfort, comfort my people, says your God. Speak tenderly to Jerusalem, and cry to her that her warfare is ended, that her iniquity is pardoned, that she has received from the Lord's hand double for all her sins. A voice cries: “In the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be lifted up, and every mountain and hill be made low; the uneven ground shall become level, and the rough places a plain. And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together, for the mouth of the Lord has spoken.” ...


John 1:1-51 ESV / 6 helpful votes


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. ...


Matthew 24:14 ESV / 6 helpful votes


And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.


Revelation 19:1-21 ESV / 5 helpful votes


After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out, “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God, for his judgments are true and just; for he has judged the great prostitute who corrupted the earth with her immorality, and has avenged on her the blood of his servants.” Once more they cried out, “Hallelujah! The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.” And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who was seated on the throne, saying, “Amen. Hallelujah!” And from the throne came a voice saying, “Praise our God, all you his servants, you who fear him, small and great.” ...


Revelation 17:1-18 ESV / 5 helpful votes


Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth have committed sexual immorality, and with the wine of whose sexual immorality the dwellers on earth have become drunk.” And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns. The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. And on her forehead was written a name of mystery: “Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth's abominations.” ...


John 1:11 ESV / 4 helpful votes


He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.


Philippians 2:9-11 ESV / 3 helpful votes


Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Romans 3:23 ESV / 3 helpful votes


For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,


Mark 16:15 ESV / 3 helpful votes


And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.


Amos 3:7 ESV / 3 helpful votes


“For the Lord God does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets.


Isaiah 66:3-6 ESV / 3 helpful votes


“He who slaughters an ox is like one who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, like one who breaks a dog's neck; he who presents a grain offering, like one who offers pig's blood; he who makes a memorial offering of frankincense, like one who blesses an idol. These have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations; I also will choose harsh treatment for them and bring their fears upon them, because when I called, no one answered, when I spoke, they did not listen; but they did what was evil in my eyes and chose that in which I did not delight.” Hear the word of the Lord, you who tremble at his word: “Your brothers who hate you and cast you out for my name's sake have said, ‘Let the Lord be glorified, that we may see your joy’; but it is they who shall be put to shame. “The sound of an uproar from the city! A sound from the temple! The sound of the Lord, rendering recompense to his enemies!


Isaiah 9:7 ESV / 3 helpful votes


Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will do this.


2 Samuel 2:1-32 ESV / 3 helpful votes


After this David inquired of the Lord, “Shall I go up into any of the cities of Judah?” And the Lord said to him, “Go up.” David said, “To which shall I go up?” And he said, “To Hebron.” So David went up there, and his two wives also, Ahinoam of Jezreel and Abigail the widow of Nabal of Carmel. And David brought up his men who were with him, everyone with his household, and they lived in the towns of Hebron. And the men of Judah came, and there they anointed David king over the house of Judah. When they told David, “It was the men of Jabesh-gilead who buried Saul,” David sent messengers to the men of Jabesh-gilead and said to them, “May you be blessed by the Lord, because you showed this loyalty to Saul your lord and buried him. ...
 
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Few scripture concerning Israel in the latter days I will end with those? ???
 
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Belief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and thus did as God said
i have a problem, may be you can help. using modern day eyes. is moses a killer or mass murderer, or a man of god.

give he must have thought it was wrong the he killed the first time, as why run away, his father was in charge of egypt. or was he running from the punishment that his egypt would give him.
then god steps in. either way works from a judgement point of view.
the joy of the father in heaven, grace to all.
 
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Few scripture concerning Israel in the latter days I will end with those? ???
speculation. this forum is not about end times. sorry you will be amazed, how you read one thing on here and you cant find it again. why would i have thought you were 83 lol and speculation to your daniel post. why did god give the gift of interpeting dreams. just a small thought if numbers and letters are used to find meaning to dreams.
 
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Thank you for your vote.
James 3:1 ESV / 8 helpful votes


Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
 
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New International Version (NIV)
The Lord Comes and Reigns


14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.


2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. 3 Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle. 4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. 5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake[a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.


6 On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. 7 It will be a unique day—a day known only to the Lord—with no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light.


8 On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter.


9 The Lord will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one Lord, and his name the only name.


10 The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up high from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses, and will remain in its place. 11 It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.


12 This is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. 13 On that day people will be stricken by the Lord with great panic. They will seize each other by the hand and attack one another. 14 Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected—great quantities of gold and silver and clothing. 15 A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.


16 Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. 17 If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, they will have no rain. 18 If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The Lord will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. 19 This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.


20 On that day holy to the Lord will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lord’s house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar. 21 Every pot in Jerusalem and Judah will be holy to the Lord Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots and cook in them. And on that day there will no longer be a Canaanite[c] in the house of the Lord Almighty. This is my final words no my Jewish brothers/friends/law keepers/orthodox/unorthodox and everyone else? Notice those of you who say we're off to heaven ? We're The Lord is so shall we? This tells us categorically were he will be for the mount of olives shall split? I say all this with all the love I have and I've always loved and supported Israel no ifs or buts always?? Bye everyone here....
 
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Whoever reads#3096 ? Well done first bt seriously please read last paragraph no 20 and read the final comments? Many thanks much love to all on cc....
 
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# 3076, not 3096lol sorry for that folks nos da ?? Goodnight in welsh ???
 

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1 Timothy 1:8

But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Question:

How Does a righteous man use the Law that is good Lawfully, without being called a teacher of the law ?

But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

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1 Timothy 1:8

But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Question:

How Does a righteous man use the Law that is good Lawfully, without being called a teacher of the law ?

But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

God bless
Too all reading this.......
Use it to die daily, and pick up our cross daily a follow. Use it to appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus, and to learn the aspects of presenting yourselves as a living sacrifice. Study it to know how to love God's way, not our way.

1 Corinthians 15:31 (KJV)

[SUP]31 [/SUP]I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

Luke 9:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

Hebrews 7:27 (KJV)

[SUP]27 [/SUP]Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Romans 12:1 (KJV)

[SUP]1 [/SUP]I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

Leviticus 19:9-18 (KJV)

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Keep in mine that there are exactly the same number of days between the Passover, and the giving of the Mosaic Law at Sinai, as there is between the death of Christ, and Pentecost. It's all relative, the law and the prophets, along with New Testament teaching by the apostles, and Peter and John,and the letters to Timothy etc.

Exodus 19:1-16 (KJV)

[SUP]1 [/SUP]In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For they were departed from Rephidim, and were come to the desert of Sinai, and had pitched in the wilderness; and there Israel camped before the mount.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

Keep in mind that all of what Jesus taught before His death was Old Testament.

Hebrews 9:16-17 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

May God bless all that understand this.