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stillness

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"This is the work of God: That you Believe on Him whom He has sent."
This nulifies the statment: not by works, to establish teaching.
The statment is half a verse that leaves out distinction between: the works we have done, and the work of God, in agrement with the influence of Grace, to forget what's behind and go on to know the Lord; and those in pride of achievment; preaching Christ out of strife and contention. Dont try to help those who preach Christ out of strife and contention, God dosent need our help. "God resists the proud, but gives Grace to the humble." These will not have part in the first resurrection and think the Autor of Salvation belong to them. "Bleased and Holy are those who have part in the first Resurrection, over these the second death has no power." The Lord told me: Your not ready. If the end was now, neither would I be in the First Resurrection.
Those in pride of achievment become like a cult who think they are right and everyone else condemed; condeming themselves by their Judgment against the Church. "Who are you to Judge Another's servant." Condemed means unable to enter in at the straight Gate. "Strive to enter in at the straight Gate, for many shall seek to enter in and shall not be able." To do do the work of God, is to believe and follow Jesus in His death and Resurrection. These no longer have identity in the flesh, they obviously walk in Love and obey the New comandment, "That you Love one another; as I have Loved you, so you must Love one another." "Despise no one," "Honor all people," "The servant of the Lord must not quarel..." Is the Lord your closest friend, practicaly your onlly friend, friendship you may have, by the Holy Spirit brigning agrement out of kaos, or out of dictatorship. Did you know men prefer dictatorship over kaos, and its the plan of the enemy. The doctrine of the Nicolaitanes that God hates, is dictator conqueror: infiltrated both Catholic and protestant churches and causes revivals of the Holy Spirit to be put on hold. At this time the charismatic revival is les hindered in Catholic churches as the leadership accepted it though it could be out of fear of loosing the psople but we are not to judge.
In short we have a messed up view of the church, me as well I no onger feel at home and its good to "Confess your faults one to another and pray one for another that we may be healed." Feel free to clear up any missundersting we may have.
 

JaumeJ

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+When one avails himself to God, he will know when God has worked through him.
 

stillness

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+When one avails himself to God, he will know when God has worked through him.
Yes but "Now we know in part, and prophesy in part." While some think they have arived, but are still babes in Christ and behave as religious leaders in the days of Jesus, not entering in and hindering those who would.
We all have trouble, the Lord told us. "In the world you will have trouble, but: Be of good cheer I have overcome the world." We are to count it all Joy, even as Paul said, "Some preach out of strife and contention, suposing to ad afliction to my bonds (prisoner of Christ), and some preach out of Love and well doing; nevertheless I rejoice that wether in pretence or in Truth, Christ is preached." So as you say, we all know a glimpse of Christ and that is enough for us to walk in the light we have to get more light. Just your simple afirmation is encouraging. Though we are to endure afliction as good soldiers and learn to walk alone with God. Many times wondered if the internet is a help or distraction or both. The best encouragment I come across is from those who have seen the Lord in visions and dreams, and had a glimpse of heaven. Again many here question the validity of their experience. What is most helpful for some, to experience more Light is scary for others. We are slow learners, like kids must be kids and the end of the world is upon us. Thankfully we only give acount of ourselves and how we treat others presently, having sufiscient Grace to forget what lies behind and go on to know the Lord.
 

JaumeJ

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Writings aside from our Father, books, magazines, radio, television, all can be disstraction, can be wicked even, however we use them all for constructiv e purposes also. It all depends on the value given each. It may be pure and kind or perverse and evil depending upon the individual and the approach.

Even the Word is being used for evil by many these days. It began in part at the time of Paul with the spoken Word being related by men. And so it goes.

If we are led by theHoly Spirit, misinformation will not be registered in the heart, soul and mind.
 

stillness

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Writings aside from our Father, books, magazines, radio, television, all can be disstraction, can be wicked even, however we use them all for constructiv e purposes also. It all depends on the value given each. It may be pure and kind or perverse and evil depending upon the individual and the approach.

Even the Word is being used for evil by many these days. It began in part at the time of Paul with the spoken Word being related by men. And so it goes.

If we are led by theHoly Spirit, misinformation will not be registered in the heart, soul and mind.
Yes "Folow the spirit as your guide that you may resist the flesh." But what we are refering to is dying daily to a life for ourselves. For most of us, its the last thing we leave behind, on the Way of perfection: forsaking everyone and everything and his own life also. Thats to enter in at the straight Gate as a disciple in the narow Way. Thankfuly we can learn of the Lord there and have rest for our soul, and not be "Weary in well doing." But some are still looking for the father they never had in this life, rather than in God. And many like me looking for the mother I never had as an idol of woman. Im in the first healty relationship with a woman and the Lord had to set me straight from ruining the relationship seven times. I'm just saying, and its no wonder its writen, "Many are called but few are chosen." I know i'm not ready and that there are many more who think they are, but hardened by false teaching, and will be disapointed not to be in the first Resurrection. Do i need to say, the lukewarm church that think they are rich...
 

JaumeJ

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When we pray daily that we be conformed to the image of Jesus, Yeshua, and our image consisting of ego be destroyed, is sthis what you are refering to? If yes, most of us do pray for this to be in progress, to be completed by our Father, Himself, on His day..perfection.
 

Hungry

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"This is the work of God: That you Believe on Him whom He has sent."
This nulifies the statment: not by works, to establish teaching.
The statment is half a verse that leaves out distinction between: the works we have done, and the work of God, in agrement with the influence of Grace, to forget what's behind and go on to know the Lord; and those in pride of achievment; preaching Christ out of strife and contention. Dont try to help those who preach Christ out of strife and contention, God dosent need our help. "God resists the proud, but gives Grace to the humble." These will not have part in the first resurrection and think the Autor of Salvation belong to them. "Bleased and Holy are those who have part in the first Resurrection, over these the second death has no power." The Lord told me: Your not ready. If the end was now, neither would I be in the First Resurrection.
Those in pride of achievment become like a cult who think they are right and everyone else condemed; condeming themselves by their Judgment against the Church. "Who are you to Judge Another's servant." Condemed means unable to enter in at the straight Gate. "Strive to enter in at the straight Gate, for many shall seek to enter in and shall not be able." To do do the work of God, is to believe and follow Jesus in His death and Resurrection. These no longer have identity in the flesh, they obviously walk in Love and obey the New comandment, "That you Love one another; as I have Loved you, so you must Love one another." "Despise no one," "Honor all people," "The servant of the Lord must not quarel..." Is the Lord your closest friend, practicaly your onlly friend, friendship you may have, by the Holy Spirit brigning agrement out of kaos, or out of dictatorship. Did you know men prefer dictatorship over kaos, and its the plan of the enemy. The doctrine of the Nicolaitanes that God hates, is dictator conqueror: infiltrated both Catholic and protestant churches and causes revivals of the Holy Spirit to be put on hold. At this time the charismatic revival is les hindered in Catholic churches as the leadership accepted it though it could be out of fear of loosing the psople but we are not to judge.
In short we have a messed up view of the church, me as well I no onger feel at home and its good to "Confess your faults one to another and pray one for another that we may be healed." Feel free to clear up any missundersting we may have.
To answer the question in the title; We are a Body with many parts, each called to perform tasks that God has prepared us for. We, in the Spirit, are all conduits for His power. If God has equipped one to preach then he preach. If He has not, then don’t. However, each of us is expected to maintain common attributes. It’s like on a pro soccer team you have strikers, stoppers, goalies, midfielders and defense. They all have different jobs but they are all expected to eat clean, practice hard, train off the field and hone their skills for when they are called into action. They are a select group who are rewarded handsomely for their efforts. We too are a select group, who will be rewarded with an eternity of “wealth”. Should we all not maintain a high standard of morality and a dedication to master our positions?