What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

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Bob-Carabbio

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What you are saying here is what happened. The question is whether, in the future beyond the time of the Ephesians.. things happened that affected the gifts of prophecy, tongues and knowledge. The answer to that is you have the inspiration of the scriptures finishing the death of the apostles and the destruction of the Jewish temple. You would have to assume these events had no affect on those miraculous gifts.
And since the "Gifts" weren't predicated on "the death of the apostles and the destruction of the Jewish temple", those events HAD NO EFFECT on the presence or continuation of the "Enduement of Power" by the Holy Spirit.
 
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There's NO SUCH THING as "Sign Gifts" that's just more phony theology from the cessationist paradigm. It's true that tongues were seen as an indication that a person was being "endued with power" (Jesus' words), but that wasn't their primary purpose.

There's just GIFTS which are given to people according to need. And whether you like it or not, men ARE STILL "Moved by the Holy Spirit" in 2024. Any definition of "Sola Scriptura" that eliminates God's direct inspiration is FALSE.

The PROBLEM IS that in some cases is that a FALSE TEACHER/Prophet/Denominational paradigm, will be "Moved by a spirit" CONTRARY to what the WORD IN CONTEXT says. Joeseph Smith being a prime example. There probably WAS an "angel Moroni". But Moroni's message was satanic.

In that case, if you're Biblically knowledgible, you can easily tell that while they may have been "Moved by a spirit", it wasn't God's Holy SPirit. The demonic can "inspire us" just as well as God can. Ignorance of the Bible renders one "FAIR GAME" for deception.
As any person thinks, that is what controls Proverbs 23:1-7
 

Edify

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1 Corinthians 13
1If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned,a but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;b 6it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. 7Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. 11When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
13So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.


The chapter is about love. 11 & 12 speaks to as long as we remain in flesh ability-wise we are children. But when we see Jesus face to face, we will see Him as He is, & we will be like Him. That's when the perfect comes, & the partial(child) passes away.
As long as we are in these cursed bodies, gifts will be needed to do the works of God & follow in Jesus' steps.


NEVER use a scripture verse by itself! Those who thinks it means the gifts ceased, DO SO without the context & DO SO totally wrong.

We all know that those that have been doing so KNOW they're supposed to use context, & don't. If we know to do good & don't do it, it's sin.

Love is the only gift that remains throughout eternity, so Love is the greatest spiritual gift of all, because God is love.